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Council consultations of the Washingtony. Estonia after their airspace was violated by three armed MIC 31 fighter jets on Friday where NATO responded quickly and decisively. Following the meeting, Allies issued a strong statement of solidarity and resolve. They condemned Russia’s reckless actions which are escalatory risk miscalculation and endanger lives. Alli affirmed yet again that our shared commitment to collective defense is unshakable. We do not want to see a continuation of this dangerous pattern by Russia. intentional or not we stand ready and willing to continue to defend every inch of all territory. Our poster on land at sea and in the air is serving as well. Our pilots are doing precisely what they are trained to do when there is a potential risk of incursion. This is what we plan for what we train for and it works. General Krinkovic Neto supreme commander has the tools and authorities he needs to ensure our defense Eastern century which he and I launched earlier this month adds fur strength and flexibility to our posture along our eastern flank and anywh else we might need it. also continue to exercise to ensure that we are ready for whatever threats we might face. Even now, the largest aircraft carryer in the world, the USS general air for is in the neighborhood and exercising with allies across the continent, reinforcing our ability to operate together across domains and over distances. This long planned defensive exercise unrelated to current events is highly relevant to our availability and ability to do what NATO was founded to det and defend. This is what we will continue to do with calm determination that [Muziek] secretary agnoon. Good afternoon. after what you said and after reading the statement issu by NATO today does that mean that NATO is going to shoot any man unman Russian aircraft which violates the airpace will it be enough to deter Russia mean the statement you just made do you think it will be enough to deter Russia after this pattern we all incids on whether to engage including aircraft such as firing upon them are of course taking real time are always based on available intelligence regarding the threat post by the aircraft including questions we have to answer like intent armment and potential risk to all force the civilians or infrastructure as I said our supreme Team Commander has the overall prerogative and responsibility and also other possibilities. In the latest airspace violation we discussed today in Estonia, NATO forces promptly intercepted and escorted the aircraft without escalation as no immediate threat was assessed. Alr, fourth row all the way on the end. Thank you, Mr. Secretary General. You mentioned in your statement eh pilots can act eh in case of a potential risk of incursion. So not in case of an incursion but a potential incursion. What do you mean? What I’m saying is that our military system works like this that we will always assess the dangers whether it is a direct threat to our overall defense our posture eh and that we will always act accordingly. Eh but in this case there was no immediate threat assessed. So what happened is that Swedish, Finnish and Italian aircraft were active to make sure that these three mix were eh moved out of Estonian airspace. Come to the center here in the second row. Hello J from Estonian public broadcasting. My question is aren’t we fundamentally addressing the wrong issue? As you said yourself in both cases in Poland and in Estonia NATO’s air defense was effective everything worked according to plan. So why in terms of eastern century are we then talking about strengthening our air defense? Isn’t the fundamental question about why Russia even dares to whether intentionally or not to breach our airspace? Shouldn’t we be moving assets to the eastern flank which pose a credible threat to Russia? I mean we a defensive alliance but for deterrents to work they have to believe that if they cross a line we will also counterattack so my question is quite simple really is the alliance prepared to scare the Russians to make these things stop of course but we always have to do that in a way that we assess the situation and our air defenses did exactly what they are designed to do both in the case of Poland with the drones as in the case of your country Estonia with these three mix we reacted quickly and decisively eh we brought together as I set my statement about 10 days ago now eastern century which will help to basically eh strengthen even further our deturns and events on the eastern flank and also in other parts of net territory where necessary eh and of course ehm eh as we also said in the pressure here about 10 days ago, we are constantly learning eh and adapting our technology and our tactics based on the evolving threat landscape and that includes drones. So one of the reasons why we launched Eastern Centry is to make sure that these latest drone technologies and that long term it is not sustainable to take drown to take down a let’s say 1000 or 2000 costing drone by a half million or a million costing missow so that you need your drone interceptors also at the level we wanted it to be is part of Eastern Centy and we working very hard to make sure that also there wear for ex Ukraine through Jtech based in Poland that is the joint NATO Ukraine organization where we basically capture all the lessons from the war in Ukraine but also through Pierre Von J who is leading our supreme aller command transformation and he works very well together and closely together with our Supreme alert commander Europe General Krinkovic to make sure that not only do we have the detur and defense on the Eastern flank but we also implement [Muziek] Thank you. German Press Agency DPA Secretary General Hallo How do assess the influence of previous events such as destruction of the Northstam pipelines on NATO’s current decision making would be in your easier to respond more decisively events like this had not happened. Thank you. I don’t understand the question because when it comes to the critical infrastructure in general we launched Baltic century and eastern centry of course eh is eh a separate activity now bringing together many many allies but also taking all the lessons from Baltic century which was about after the latest events happening on the 25 of December last year eh between eh Estonia and and Finland eh we brought together activity and why not only to make that we are able to track and trace and we necessary to intervene but also to to implement the latest technologies including undersea drones etc etcing bringing together our best experts in both moons so shape but also eh eh our allied command transformation eh onder under onder the leadership of Pierre von Eastern centers thank you secrar andrew from Reuters are you as part of reviewing what happened the other day going to look again at rules of engagement or are you confident that they are fine as they stand and following up a broader question NATO at the heart of NATO is the idea of deterrence Poland a Dutch F35 shot down eh Russian drones but also when it comes to to Estonia where things to the Finns and the Swedes and the Italian mix 31 airace to the Russians is clear we will defend every in all territory we will make sure that we can always defend and detur necessary. We are defensive alliance, yes, but we are not naive. Ehm, so we see what is happening and whether it is intentional eh or not. If it is not intentional then it is blatantly incompetence. And of course even if it is incompetence we still have to defend ourselves the thank you very much for secretary general a question sorry toose is it politically wise to invoke article with a couple of of sending signal to russ signal nervous maybe and this will be this will be listened like this in in Russia of course and the more practical question about the incident in Estonia what can you tell us about the Russian fighter jets where they armed actually in this moment thank you well to begin with your first question I think these two article are both warranted and it had to do first with the impact of drone threat to Poland. This was een multiple times. Incursions. I think it was totally clear that the Polish government had to invoke article 4. I think it was very useful. And also here when it comes to Estonia last Friday when you look at the location and the duration of the presence of these mix 31 in Estonian airspace. I think it is absolutely warranted that we had this article for consultation. Eh and let me also make you make very clear that our Supreme commander has all the authorities he needs that this alliance has all the capabilities it needs to whenever the Russians is intentional or not blatantly be it in competence but at least being reckless and being irresponsible try to invade all airspace airspace we will react they know we willend ourselves Thank you. Portugal mention 12 minutes of 31 flying around Estonian SK is too much was it that fast and you say that if there’s a direct threat NATO will respond does it mean that in that case you can shut down whatever is needed as my colle from AFP asked Denmark do any connection threats in Romania, Estonia and Poland is a link with what happen in your first question we will always react with CR determination because we have all the defensive systems in place to make sure that we can defend every ofity that’s what we have shown both in de Polish case as well as in die eh Estonian case. And I really command eh die fighter jet pilots from Sweden, from Finland and of course from Italy eh in the Estonian case eh but also Germany and Italy and the Dutch when it comes to the Polish situation a week ago for acting so decisively and so quickly. But of course to the second half of your first question eh as I said before decisions on whether weather to engage including including aircraft including potentially firing up them will always be assessed based on all the elements I just mentioned and as no immediate threat was assessed here in this case eh shooting down the mix was not necessary. And of course what we will always do is to make sure that we react in a proportionate way. But if necessary, you can be assured we will do what is necessary to defend our cities, our people, our infrastructure. But this is how it works. So it doesn’t mean that we will always immediately shoot down a plane. We will, as I said, based on clear dimensions assess the situation real time based on all the available intelligence. That’s exactly what happened here. To your second question, I was just on the phone with the Danish prime minister. Of course, eh we there’s talk now of four big drones who create three big drones creating big difficulties in eh in Danish airspace eh including ehm eh the Capitals eh airport. Ehm and the Danes are at this moment exactly assessing what happened to make sure what is behind this. We are very close contact on this. So it is too early to to say to answer your second question. All right. We have time for just a few more questions and I know we have more than we have time to get to. It’s Terry please. Third row wait for the Terry with DW. to get up all I mean you say that the system is working would you rather deter these flights from coming in so wouldn’t it work better if they never entered NATO airspace if that’s working and how much pressure does it put on NATO now that Poland has said you know what we are going to shoot these down does that make the rest of the eastern flank where NATO might not make the same decision in its own eastern century mission to do that. Doesn’t that perhaps make some of the other allies a bit more vulnerable if if this kind of behavior is going to continue. And are you sure that’s all you can say about Copenhagen? Thank you. Yes. On the second question. Yes. And on the eh on your first question I listened very carefully to Donald Tusk the Polish prime minister yesterday. I think he what he said is that if necessary yes we will shoot down a plane or and of course we already shot down a drone if necessary and this exactly comes back to what I just mentioned that we will always assess the situation assess the immediate threat the plane eh poses eh and acting eh quickly and decisively is exactly what happened in these two cases. And I’m really proud of our fighter jet pilots doing this and our commanders in contact with them coordinating all these all these activities. Clearly ehm what Russians are doing is eh not acceptable. Eh if it is intentional or not, at least it is reckless. Ehm and it should stop. Absolutely. And what they will see now over the last couple of weeks is that whatever happens we are there and it will not as you have seen in the next statement eh detract us from supporting Ukraine if that is what they might be thinking they could achieve. I don’t know what is in their minds if it was intentional again we are still assessing that eh we will also keep on supporting Ukraine with even more vigor and more eh determination. Oké. Ehm romas thanks for the question frankfurgeme zeit afternoon was also polish foreign minister Radoslavikowski yesterday night at the UN security council warn Russia that Poland would shoot down any aircraft in contradiction intentional nonintentional patterns of behavior can you please clarify Poland have the right to do this on their own or are they bound by common rules of engagement ehm for all NATO allies than I just commented on the on the Polish prime minister and I would like to leave it at that because I cannot comment on every official in NATO territory because there are so many thank you so much necessary mayar I’m incursion that takes place we have to act decisively and quickly exactly the Polish case in Estonian case in Latvia Lithuania in Norway Finland we always act decisively and quickly and always assess the threat levels and make sure that if there is immediate threat of course we will not hesitate to do our infrastructure. Oké final question. Yes. Hi Karen Naxelson from politiek in Denmark. Hallo. Eh you said you didn’t wann comment on on the Danish incident, so let’s call it the Danish Norwegian incident. Ehm is NATO eh as you said ready to act decisively on eh incidents like this what happened in Copenhagen and in in Oslo and we’re having two big summits next week in Copenhagen is it what what can we do I mean is a drone wall enough to deter these kind of incidents whoever was behind it eh or do we need to step up with with more eh action in nature as well as well as EU things? Ja well eh first of all as I said I spoke with the Danish Prime Minister and of course also Denmark is still assessing what exactly happened and whether they can eh find out more and of course we will help wherever we can and all our allies will be involved in that as is always the case when these the incidents happen to your more general question also about next week’s meetings in Copenhaken. I think of European Council and of the European political community, but also more generally when it comes to defending eh our airspace eh of NATO. Eh as I said eh and I think the Estonian and Polish case are proof of this. We will act decisively and quickly. We have the system worked. Ehm Sakur has all the authorities he needs eh in a trickled down way to make sure that the commanders on the ground know what to need to do and if necessary to also take the ultimate decision but only when there is an assessment that that is necessary. And that is what I meant with making sure that we always will eh work and act with calm determination. And that’s what Russians know and Russians know also that if necessary we will not hesitate. Thank you. Thank you so much for coming here and for waiting a little bit longer because the meeting was very good but took also a bit longer. Thank you so much. Thank you all. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Uh we’ll start with a statement from the secretary general and then we’ll have time for a few questions. Thank you and good afternoon. This morning the North Atlantic Council held consultations under article 4 of the Washington Treaty. This followed a request from Estonia after their airspace was violated by three armed MIC 31 fighter jets on Friday where NATO responded quickly and decisively. Following the meeting, allies issued a strong statement of solidarity and resolve. They condemned Russia’s reckless actions which are escalatory risk miscalculation and endanger lives. All affirmed yet again that our sharedit to collective defense is unshakable. We do not want to see a continuation of this dangerous pattern by Russia intentional or not ready and willing to continue to defend every inch of all territory our posture on land at sea and in a is our pilots are doing precisely what train to do when is potential risk of incursion is plan and it works. General Krinkovic, NATO’s Supreme Alert Commander has the tools and authorities he needs to ensure our defense and Eastern Centry which he and I launched earlier this month adds fur strength and flexibility to our posture along our eastern flank and anywh else we might need it. Alas also continue to exercise to ensure that we are ready for whatever threats we might face. Even now the largest aircraft carry in the world the USS air for is in the neighborhood exercising allies across the continent reinforcing our ability to operate together across domains and over distances this long planned defensive exercise unrelated to current events is highly relevant to our availability and ability to do what NATO was founded to will continue to do with calm determination and that I time for a few questions with AFP [Muziek] secretary AFP agreson good afternoon eh after what you said and after reading the statement Russ aircraftolat air enough russate. Russia pattern incids on whether to engage including aircraft such as firing upon them are of course taking real time are always based on available intelligence regarding the threat post by the aircraft including questions we have to answer like intent armment and potential risk to all force civilians infrastructure our supreme commander over prative responsibility and also possibilities in the latest airspace violation we discussed today in Estonia NATO forces promptly intercepted and escorted the aircraft without escalation as no immediate threat was assessed. Alri eh for throw all the way on the end. Thank you, Mr. Secretary General. You you mentioned in your statement eh pilots can act eh in case of a potential risk of incursion. So not in case of an incursion but a potential incursion. What do you mean? What I’m saying is that our military system works like this that we will always assess the dangers whether it is a direct threat to our overall defense our posture and that we will always act accordingly but in this case there was no immediate threat assessed. So what happened is that Swedish, Finnish and Italian aircraft were active to make sure that these three mix were eh moved out of Estonian airspace. Come to the center here in the second row. Hello Jim Clement from Estonian Public Broadcasting. My question is aren’t we fundamentally addressing the wrong issue? As you said yourself in both cases in Poland and in Estonia NATO’s air defense was effective everything worked according to plan. So why in terms of Eastern central are we then talking about strengthening our air defense? Isn’t the fundamental question about why Russia even dares to whether intentionally or not to breach our airspace? Shouldn’t we be moving assets to the Eastern flank which pose a credible threat to Russia? I mean we defensive alliance but for deterrents to work they have to believe that if they cross a line we will also counterattack so my question is quite simple really is the alliance prepared to scare the Russians to make these things stop of course but we always have to do that in a way that we assess the situation and our air defenses did exactly what they are designed to do both in the case of Poland with the drones as in the case of your country, Estonia with three mix we reacted quickly and decisively eh we brought together as I set my statement about 10 days ago now eastern centry which will help to basically strengthen even further our deterns and events on the eastern flank and also in other parts of net territory where necessary eh and of course eh as we also set in the pressure here about 10 days ago, we are constantly learning and adapting our technology and our tactics based on the evolving thread landscape and that includes drones. So one of the reasons why we launched Eastern Centry is to make sure that these latest drone technologies and that long term it is not sustainable to take drown to take down a let’s say 1000 or 2000 costing drone by a half million or a million costing missow so that you need your drone interceptors also at the level we want it to be is part of Eastern Centry and we working very hard to make sure that also there we learn from for example Ukraine through JTECH based in Poland that is the joint NATO eh Ukraine organization where we basically capture all the lessons from the war in Ukraine but also through Pierre Von J who is leading our supreme alert command transformation and he works very well together and closely together with our Supreme alert commander Europe General Krinkovic to make sure that not only do we have the deterns and defense on the Eastern flank but we also implement [Muziek] Thank you. German press agency DPA secretary general. Hallo. How do influence of prevents such as destruction of the Northstam pipelines on NATO’s current decision making? Would it be in your easier to respond more decisively events like this had not happened? Thank you. I don’t understand the question because when it comes to the critical infrastructure in general we launched Baltic Cent and Eastern Centry of course is a separate activity now bringing together many many allies but also taking all the lessons from Baltic century which was about after the latest events happening on the 25 of December last year eh between eh Estonia and and Finland. We brought together that activity and why not only to make sure that we are able to track and trace and we necessary to intervene but also to to implement the latest technologies including undersea drones etc etcing bringing together our best experts in both moons so shape but also eh eh our eh allied command transformation eh under the leadership of Pierre von J and that’s exactly what we are doing here with Eastern Cent we are taking lessons from that and we are implementing this with Pete coming over to this side in the third thank you secretary general Andrew Gre from Reuters are you as part of reviewing what happened the other day going to look again at rules of engagement or are you confident that they are fine as they stand and following up a broader question at the heart is Russia incursions. Do you need to do anything more order to make your deter? Well, I think what Russians is that we are willing indeed to defend every territory. Exactly what happened in Poland when a Dutch F35 shot down eh Russian drones. But also when it comes to to Estonia where thanks to the Fins and the Swedes and the Italians, we were able to escort these three mix 31 out of Estonian airspace. Eh and our message to the Russians is clear. We will defend every in of all territory. We will make sure that we can always defend and detur where necessary. We are defensive alliance. Yes. But we are not naive. So we see what is happening and whether it is intentional or not. If it is not intentional then it is blatantly incompetence eh and ehm of course even if it is incompetence we still have to defend ourselves. Thank you very much for nezeit secretary general sorry to is it politically wise to invoke article now within a couple of days twice because of course you are sending a signal to rush signal of nervous maybe in Russia of course and more practical about incident in Estonia what can you tell us about the Russian fighter jets where they armed actually in this moment you well to begin with your first question I think these two article force are both warranted and it had to do first with the impact of the drone threat to Poland eh this was een multiple tim of drones so was different from some other incursions. to Estonia last Friday when you look at the location and the duration of the presence of these mix 31 in Estonian airspace I think it is absolutely warranted that we had this article for consultation eh and but let me also make you make very clear that our Supreme Commander has all the authorities he needs that this alliance has all the capabilities is it needs to whenever the Russians whether it is intentional or not blatantly be it incompetence but at least being reckless eh and being irresponsible eh try to invade allied airspace netro airspace then we will react they know and we will defend ourselves there is no doubt the woman in the second r thank you suanne fresh Portugal mentioning prompt response don’t think 31 Estonian SK is too much was it that fast and you say that if there’s a direct threat NATO will respond does it mean that in that case you can shut down whatever is needed as my colleague from AFP asked and if I may regarding what happened in Denmark Do you see any connection with these threats in eh Romania, Estonia and eh Poland? Is there a link with what happen in to your first question? We will always react with calm determination because we have all the eh defensive systems in place to make sure that we can defend every ofity. That’s what we have shown both in the Polish case as well as in the Estonian case. And I really command eh die fighter jet pilots from Sweden, from Finland and of course from Italy eh in the Estonian case eh but also Germany and Italy and the Dutch eh when it comes to the Polish situation a week ago for acting so decisively and so quickly. But of course to the second half of your first question as I said before decisions on whether to engage including including aircraft including potentially firing up will always be assessed based on all the elements are just mentioned. Eh and as no immediate threat was assessed here in this case eh shooting down the mix was not necessary. Eh and of course what we will always do is to make sure that we react in a proportionate way. But if necessary, you can be assured we will do what is necessary to defend our cities, our people, our infrastructure. Eh, but this is how it works. So it doesn’t mean that we will always immediately shoot down a plane. We will, as I said, based on clear dimensions assess the situation real time based on all the available intelligence. That’s exactly what happened here. To your second question, I was just on the phone with the Danish prime minister. Of course, eh we there’s talk now of four big drones who create three big drones creating big difficulties in eh in Danish airspace eh including eh the Capitals eh airport. Ehm and the Danes are at this moment exactly assessing what happened to make sure what is behind this. We are very close contact on this. So it is too early to to say to answer your second question. All right, we have time for just a few more questions and I know we have more than we have time to get to. It’s Terry please third row wait for the Terry with DW. I mean you say that the system is working would you rather deter these flights from coming in so wouldn’t it work better if they never entered NATO airspace if that’s working and how much pressure does it put on NATO now that Poland has said you know what we are going to shoot these down does that make the rest of the eastern flank where NATO might not make the same decision in its own eastern century mission to do that. Doesn’t that perhaps make some of the other allies a bit more vulnerable if if this kind of behavior is going to continue. And are you sure that’s all you can say about Copenhagen? Thank you. Yes. On the second question. Yes. And on the eh on your first question, I listened very carefully to Donald Tusk, the Polish prime minister yesterday. I think he what he said is that if necessary yes we will shoot down a plane or and of course we already shot down a drone if necessary and this exactly comes back to what I just mentioned that we will always assess the situation assess the immediate threat the plane eh poses eh and acting eh quickly and decisively is exactly what happened in these two cases. And I’m really proud of our fighter jet pilots doing this and our commanders in contact with them coordinating all these all these activities. Clearly ehm what Russians are doing is eh not acceptable. Eh if it is intentional or not, at least it is reckless. Ehm and it should stop. Absolutely. And what they will see now over the last couple of weeks is that whatever happens we are there and it will not as you seen in the next statement eh detract us from supporting Ukraine if that is what they might be thinking they could achieve. I don’t know what is in their minds if it was intentional again we are still assessing that we will also keep on supporting Ukraine with even more vigor and more eh determination. Oké. Ehm fourth row eh Thomas thanks for the question Frankfurt allgemeine Zeit. Good afternoon. Polish foreign minister Radoslavikowski yesterday night security council warn Russia Poland shoot down any aircraft missile entering I space without permission deliberately or by mistake which is in clear contradiction to what you just said about intentional Poland to do on bound by common rules of engagement for all NATO all thank you I just commented on the Polish prime minister and I would like to leave it at that because I cannot comment on No, I’m not saying that he literally said that, but we all agree that when there is an incursion when that takes place we have to act decisively and quickly exactly as we have done in the Polish case in the Estonian case and there have been other cases in Latvia and Lithuania. in Norway Finland decisively and quickly assess levels make sure that if there is immediate threat of course we will not hesitate to do what is necessary to protect our cities our people our infrastructure oké final question go to the fourth yes hi axelson from politiek in Denmark eh hell eh you said you didn’t wan to comment on on the Danish incident. So let’s call it the Danish Norwegian incident. Eh is NATO eh as you said eh ready to act decisively on eh incidents like this what happened in Copenhagen and in in Oslo and we’re having two big summits next week in Copenhagen is it what what can we do? I mean eh is a drone wall enough to deter these kind of incidents whoever was behind it eh or do we need to step up with with more eh action in nature as as well as EU things? Ja well eh first of all as I said I spoke with the Danish Prime Minister and of course also Denmark is still assessing what exactly happened and whether they can eh find out more and of course we will help whever we can and all allies will be involved in that as is always the case when these the incidents happen to your more general question also about next week’s meetings eh in Copenhagen I think ofan council en of European political community more generally when it comes to defending eh our airspace eh of NATO. Eh as I said and I think the Estonian and Polish case are proof of this. We will act decisively and quickly. We have the system worked. Ehm Sakur has all the authorities he needs eh in a trickled down way to make sure that the commanders on the ground know what to need to do and if necessary to also take the ultimate decision but only when there is an assessment that that is necessary. And that is what I meant with making sure that we always will eh work and act with calm determination. And that’s what Russians know and Russans also that if necessary we will not hesitate. Thank you so much for coming here and for waiting a little bit longer because the meeting was very good but took also a bit longer. Thank you so much. Thank you all. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us. Start with statement secretary general and then have time for a few questions. Thank you and good afternoon. This morning the North Atlantic Council held consultations under article 4 of the Washington treaty. This followed a request from Estonia after their airspace was violated by three armed MIC 31 fighter jets on Friday where NATO responded quickly and decisively. Following the meeting, allies issued a strong statement of solidarity and resolve. They condemned Russia’s reckless actions which are escalatory risk miscalculation and endanger lives. All affirmed yet again that our shared commitment to collective defense is unshakable. We do not want to see a continuation of this dangerous pattern by Russia intentional and willing to continue to defend in territory our post on land at sea and in a is serving as well our pilots are doing precisely what train to do when is potential risk of incursion This is what we plan for what we train for and it works. General Krinkovic, NATO’s Supreme Alert Commander has the tools and authorities he needs to ensure our defense and Eastern century which he and I launched earlier this month, adds further strength and flexibility to our posture along our Eastern flank and anywh else we might need it. Alas also continue to exercise to ensure that we are ready for whatever threats we might face. Even now the largest aircraft car in the world the USS air for is in the neighborhood exercising all across the continent reinforcing our ability to operate together across domains and over distances this long planned defensive exercise unrelated to current events is highly relevant to our availability and ability to do what NATO was founded to defendation time [Muziek] agoning statement Russian aircraftolat air enough Russia state. Russ pattern incids on whether to engage including aircraft such as firing upon them are of course taking in real time are always based on available intelligence regarding the threat post by the aircraft including questions we have to answer like intent armment and potential risk to all force the civilians infrastructure as our supreme commander has the overall prerograpsibility and also all the possibilities in the latest airspace violation we discussed today in Estonia NATO forces promptly intercepted and escorted the aircraft without escalation as no immediate threat was assessed alr eh all the way on the Thank you Mr. Secretary General mentioned in statement pilots can act in case of a potential risk of incursion not in case of an incursion but potential incursion. What do you mean? What I’m saying is that our military system works like this that we will always assess the dangers whether it is a direct threat to our overall defense our posture and that we will always act accordingly but in this case there was no immediate threat assessed so what happened is that Swedish, Finnish and Italian aircraft were active to make sure that these three mix were eh moved out of Estonian air Callement from Estonian public broadcasting. My question is aren’t we fundamentally addressing the wrong issue? As you said yourself in both cases in Poland and in Estonia NATO’s air defense was effective everything worked according to plan. So why in terms of Eastern century are we then talking about strengthening our air defense? Isn’t the fundamental question about why Russia even dares to whether intentionally or not to breach our airspace? Shouldn’t we be moving assets to the Eastern flank which pose a credible threat to Russia? I mean we a defensive alliance but for deterrents the work they have to believe that if they cross a line we will also counterattack. really is alliance prepared to scare the Russians to make these things stop of course but we always have to do that in a way that we assess the situation and our air defenses did exactly what they are designed to do both in the case of Poland with the drones as in the case of your country Estonia with these three mix we reacted quickly and decisively we brought together as cent my statement about 10 days ago now eastern century which will help to basically strengthen even further our deterns and defense on the eastern flank and also in other parts of net territory were necessary eh and of course eh eh as we also said in the pressure here about 10 days ago we are constantly learning eh landscape and that includes drones so one of the eh reasons why we launched eastern centry is to make sure that these latest drone technologies and that long term it is not sustainable to take drown to take down a let’s say 1000 or 2000 costing drone by a half million or a million costing missow so that you need your drone interceptors also at the level we wanted it to be is part of eastern century and we working very hard to make sure that also there we learn from for example Ukraine through Jtech based in Poland that is the joint eh NATO [Muziek] [Muziek] is leading our supreme command transformation works togetheros together our supreme commander general krinkovic to make sure that not only do we have the det on the eastern flank but we also implement as quickly as possible these latest drone technologies on [Muziek] Thank you. An German Press Agency DPA Secretary General. Hallo. How doess the influence of previous events such as destruction of the Northstam pipelines on NATO’s current decision making it be in your easier to respond more decisively events like this had not happened? Thank you. I don’t understand the question because when it comes to the critical infrastructure in general we launched Baltic Cent and Eastern Centry of course is a separate activity now bringing together many many allies but also taking all the lessons from Baltic century which was about after the latest events happening on the 25 of December last year eh between eh Estonia and and Finland. We brought together that activity and why not only to make sure that we are able to track and trace and we necessary to intervene but also to to implement the latest technologies including undersea drones etc etcing bringing together our best experts in both mo so shape eh eh our allied command transformation eh onder under onder the leadership of Pierre von J and that’s exactly what we are doing here with Eastern Centy. So we are taking lessons from that and we are implementing this with Pete coming over to this side Reuters in the third row please. Thank you. Secretary General Andrew Gre from Reuters. Are you as part of reviewing what happened the other day going to look again at rules of engagement or are you confident that they are fine as they stand? And following up a broader question um NATO at the heart of NATO is the idea of deterrence. At the moment it seems like deterrence is not working because Russia is undertaking these incursions. So do you need to do anything more order more? I think Russians is that we are willing indeed to defend every territor exactly what happened in Poland when a Dutch F35 show down Russian drones but also when it comes to to Estonia where thanks to the Fins and the Swedes and the Italians, we were able to escort these three mix 31 out of Estonian airspace. Eh and our message to the Russians is clear. We will defend every in of all territory. We will make sure that we can always defend and detur necessary. We are defensive alliance, yes, but we are not naive. Eh so we see what is happening and whether it is intentional eh or not. If it is not intentional then it is blatantly incompetence. and of course even if it is in competence we still have to defend ourselves. Thank you very much Antonio von Magali für neue Zwischenzeitung. Secretary general a question sorry to close is it politically wise to invoke now within a couple of days twice because of course you are sending a signal to Russia signal of of nervousness maybe and this will be this will be listened like this in in Russia of course and the more practical question about the incident in Estonia what can you tell us about the Russian fighter jets where they I