Simon takes a look around the Katusha Alpecin mechanics truck to see how cassettes/rear derailleurs have revolutionised to the needs of cyclists.
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What do you think of the SRAM WiFli rear derailleur system? Let us know in the comments below👇 We’d love to know if you have one.
SRAM introduced the WiFLi rear derailleur as a solution to allow a rider to use upto a 32t cassette with ease. Previously it meant having to put a long cage derailleur on a bike, you’d need to put a longer chain on too.
Simon is joined by Jason from SRAM who is the team liaison and finds out how products can be bettered for the professionals, this technology, when implemented, is available for consumer use too. Meaning that everyone can take advantage of advances in technology.
Tony Martin is a classic example of a rider who wants to stay in the big chainring for as long as possible and with a 58t chainring paired up with a 32t sprocket on the cassette means that he can do so by using the WiFLi medium cage rear derailleur.
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– Professional cycling has
changed in many, many ways over the last couple of decades. And one subtle way, but
nevertheless important, is the gear ratios that
the riders are using. Now bear with me, this is
actually very interesting. So we’re in the Katusha
Alpecin team truck. You can tell that
because it’s stacked full of beautiful red team bikes there. In this little cupboard
we have a selection of the cassettes; so the rear gears that the
riders have at their disposal. Now, about 20 years ago
there would not have been half that selection. Riders would have used
either an 11-21 or an 11-23. In extremes perhaps an 11-25. So lots of cogs all really
closely spaced together. Now, however, the smallest
cassette in here is 11-25. Then they have 11-26, 11-28,
which they use most days, then 11-30, and even four
11-32 cassettes up here that are reserved, principally it seems, for Tony Martin who likes to spend all day riding around in his big chain ring. So, it seems a little odd, doesn’t it, given that the roads
have not got any steeper, bike technology has got better, riders are not going
much slower, if at all, but yet their gears have got easier. I think we need to ask some questions. Jason is a former
pro-cyclist and you’ve been team liaison for SRAM
for what, 10 years now? So you were the guy that bridges the gap between teams and the manufacture. – Exactly, yeah. – Okay, so you’re pretty well placed then to comment on how gear
selection, gear choices, changed over the last couple of decades. – I hope so, yeah. – Okay, so why are we
seeing this shift then? If you’ll pardon the pun! – Yeah, I think we definitely
see like 10 years ago an 11-25 was the standard cassette. That’s what everybody
rode and mountain stage in the tour, they’d go to 26, whereas today a 26 or even the 28 is becoming the go-to cassette, and in the mountain stages
they’ll ride 30 or 32. But concurrently you see
that on the flat stages they’re riding bigger
chain rings all the time. So the gear range in general is just really expanded. – And so the reason it’s expanded. Is that a request from
teams that you then fulfil, or is it a case of, you
know, riders are using compact chain sets and benefiting from wider gear ratios
just out in the mountains, so people you don’t race, and therefore that’s
driving what the teams use? – No, I mean, we basically provide the teams what they would prefer to
use from what we can offer, and the WiFLi rear derailleur where they can go up to a 32 cog, really gives them the flexibility to ride one bike for the whole tour and they just need to change the cassette. They don’t need to do anything
like that with compact and it just simplifies
their whole life, basically. – Why are they doing it
in the first place though? Is it the fact that
cadencies are increasing, so how fast people are pedalling, or is it a case of, you
know, they’re just going a little bit slower? I mean, I don’t think that’s the case. – I think the riders are
going slightly slower uphill, I think the bikes are going
probably faster on the flats, whether it’s the benefits
of better training and much better aerodynamics on the bike than we had 10 years ago, 20 years ago, but if you look at videos from the 70s you really see, you know, they’re doing a lot of this stuff and today, you know, really nice pedalling
actions up the climbs. So the whole style of
cycling has changed, I think. Just because of… Now you have the possibility
to ride those gears. The guys in the 70s and
80s and even early 90s never had that possibility. – Now one thing that the
Katusha mechanics have told me is that the biggest fan
of an 11-32 cassette is actually Tony Martin. Now he’s arguably one of
the most powerful riders in the Peloton. And so why is a guy like Tony riding 11-32 because 32 is a big cassette isn’t it? – Absolutely, but he’s got a 58 chain ring on his bike for instance
– okay fair enough – and so the 32 cassette really allows him to ride the big chain ring almost the whole time and, you know, that’s
what he’s aiming to do. When it’s fast down hills
he’s really got the gear to get up to probably 75, 80Ks an hour and still pedalling but not completely spun
out or over revving. – So is a part of that, like you say, actually just simply being able to stay in the big chain ring for longer, and therefore not having to
use the little ring at all? – Absolutely. I mean, especially when you’ve got you know, massive chain rings like that you’ve got a huge gap between the big chain ring and
the small chain ring, so they’re definitely wanting to stay in the big chain ring
for as much as possible. – So riders are more concerned then with saving their legs
and trying to inflict less damage on them so
that they can effectively be fresher at the end
of a three week race. But technology has also played a key part. So let’s have a look in one
of the Katusha drawers here. Now, this is a SRAM eTap rear derailleur and it is, you’ll notice, a medium cage rear derailleur. So that bit there, between
the two jockey wheels, is a little big longer and it’s also what they call WiFLi. And so what it does is
it effectively means that this rear derailleur
can be bolted onto the bike all year around and the
mechanics can swap effortlessly between 11-25 cassettes and 11-32. Meaning that there is
no extra work involved. Whereas, back in the day, swapping between an 11-23 and an 11-28 would have involved potentially swapping out
an entirely new rear mech and indeed a new chain as well
to make it slightly longer. So it’s technological advances like WiFLi that actually enabled
riders to save their legs, use more appropriate
gears and then go faster. Now the team does still carry what’s called short cage rear derailleurs, so like this one here. You can see for comparison it is much smaller. But effectively it is only
really for time trial bikes, where they can be
confident that the riders don’t need any really light gears, because it’s not often you
climb super steep hills in time trials. So that’ll be the reason
why that’s still there. Well that has hopefully shed some light on the evolution of
gearing in the Pro Peloton. A mixture of rider
preference dictating a need for smaller gears for
faster climbing cadences, and then paired it with
technological development from components like SRAM WiFLi. Do make sure you subscribe to GCN. To do so just click on the globe and then if you’d like some more content, why not see Tony Martin’s TT bike with that monster 58 tooth chain ring. And then we’ve also got my own little test of riding standard versus compact gears and that was on the
fearsome Mortirolo in Italy.
43 Comments
But in the ‘70 and early ‘80s even pro riders could only get a 5-speed freewheel, which doesn’t allow a wide range of cog sizes. Now they have 11 & 12-speed cassettes, which allow a wider range while still keeping jumps to only 2-3 teeth.
my first ten speed (1970) had a Campy 13,14,15,18,21x 46 and52, pretty tough on the climbs
Got 11-32 and 50-34, really great for climbing when your ftp is 220 🙂 Can beat 15% without burning.
I use 50×34 crank 11×28 cassette would I do better on hills with 11×32 I am not a racer.
Important information here Martin uses a bigger ring (I use to 56 tooth ring) to have more speed during the straightest cog combo with the big ring. This way you are not cross chained on the 11 and 14 or 15 th sprocket. By using a bigger ring you can stay at the lower sections of the cassette. In heavy Winds for example this a massive advantage.
And they were actually men…
With such a wide cassette, is there a chance of some riders dropping the small chainring on flat stages?
I ride 11-27.
Real men ride single speed and win the tour
I was a not-special cat 4 racer in Colorado who climbed everything with a small gear of 42/23. I felt like such a failure for adding the 23 to my 12-21. I can live with the new cassettes these days but I miss 53/42 rings. I’m so sick of having to make a compensation shift when switching rings. SRAM is marketing the “new” xdrive rings that are only 13 teeth apart instead of 16. It’s not new, SRAM.
28t gets me to ride uphills.
Am seeing far less men and far more boys in racing. Regardless of age few hard men in peloton now. Golden age totally gone forever.
I have 11-34 with a compact on my winter bike and 11-28 full size on my summer bike. I wouldn’t want to do any hour long climbs on it, but on the usual 10 min hills in the uk I’m actually much faster at lower cadence on my summer bike 🤷🏻♂️
Nice work young man. Great communication skills as always.
Why would you need to stay on the big chainring? I'm not a mind reader.
I am thinking of riding a 11/60 on my ebike as I cannot peddle fast enough,would it work.
Hey… can i get one of those bike😅
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hard to know how they are slower up hills???? the riders are MUCH leaner than they were and the bikes are waaaaay lighter than back in the day…so …what's up with that????
One tooth different in cassettes
Small isuieh big price
Cadance. Jan Ulrich v Lance Armstrong. For all his sins, LA changed the way we cycle, spinning like a gerbil, and staying in the saddle.
I was riding when the first 6 sprocket freewheels were introduced in the late '70's.
Five sprocket freewheels had been standard for 30 years or so, before that. And the smallest sprocket we had available was a 13 back then. Most riders ran a "straight block" with 13,14,15,16,17, on flatter courses. You'd jump two teeth on the bigger two, or three, if you rode a mountain course, so it might be 13,14,16,18,20, or 21. It wasn't long after the 6 sprocket freewheels came out that cassettes were introduced, and then sprocket counts gradually increased in time, with 7s, 8s, 9s, and much later, 10s.
Having those extra ratios available is wonderful. They give you the ability to keep your cadence in your preferred zone.
As for those really big sprockets, it's nice to be able to stay in the saddle and spin up a steep climb. It used to be that you had no choice but to get out of the saddle and jump on the peddles to get up a serious slope. If you had only 5 sprockets, they could not go from the smallest of 13, up to 32, without having big jumps between the ratios, meaning big jumps in your cadence. Imagine the large ratio gaps in a 13,16, 20, 25, 32. It would rarely provide you with the right ratio.
Oh noo, help the poor cyclists to change a cassettes evereyday😅 just ridiculous
I found the video rather lacking in a firm conclusion. This is how I understand the situation: Noone is riding slower. Cadences are not higher. The hills are no steeper. Yet cassettes carry larger gears. That allows riders to use a single chain ring, and possibly a larger one. Plus, better manufacturing and longer cages in the rear derailleur physically accommodates that wider spread of gears. After all, the only reason for 2x chain rings is because the rear end couldn't handle wide enough gear spread.
That aside, the title should have said "larger gears…", should it not?! The changes discussed involve larger gears.
I have just change to a 11/28 because i am fat and need all the help i can get, come to think of it, i might just buy a motorbike.
I can't stand the way that product availability is driven by racing requirements. All the gears are too high. The tires are too narrow. Cycling magazines write irrelevant articles about riding in a peleton.
is it possible to make a 100 speed bicycle?
Even my electric bike has a top gear of 52 12 but a bottom gear of 52 32 so if the battery runs out you are screwed on the steeps
My giant Yukon had a bottom gear of 22/32 and top of 42/11. I modded it to 22/34 and 44/11
Saracen helix had top end of 52/12 and 30/25 but I modded it to 52/11 and 30/32. The middle ring had 42 teeth. I think a 30 cassette was practically the largest without the derailleur making that sound giving unity gearing not too bad on a 25 lb bike
Uh, elephant in the room??? Maybe this is happening because of the crackdown on doping.
I feel old remembering 12 to 18 rear. 42/52 front chainset
Wasn't it Lance who started the whole faster cadence trend?
I believe the 12-23 was the standard. Oh and let’s not forget that good ole front 42 tooth chainring.
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x1 with a 58 chainring is the future.
armstrong really changed how people look at cadence and climbing.
Less EPO, bigger gears.
Easier gears means putting less strain on your legs and joints. A must not for pro's but essentially for all of us, you you want to still be able to ride even in your late fifties.
Epo
Amazing video. Watching the tour I always feel like starving for video shots showing the gears riders are using. The rarely give is those closeups which is a potty really.
i have road bike from 80's with 53/41 front and freewheel 24/14.Is it good for climbing
If you ride the big ring all the time why not just go 1x?
Glad they stopped using 25. It's a terrible gear choice
Thanks for the information GCN . I just got the Dura Ace crank 54/40 , cassette 11/34 . Thanks 🎉🎉🎉