Is new Grail really 0.5kg heavier than Grizl with the same groupset, wheels, lighter tires (120g), saddle despite having carbon cockpit or am I missing something? Grizl handlebar + stem is 419g, Grail cockpit should be similar in weight to H31 which is 285g. That would mean that either frame or fork is \~0.7kg heavier.

Grail CF SL 7 AXS [https://www.canyon.com/en-us/gravel-bikes/performance/grail-generation-2/cf-sl/grail-cf-sl-7-axs/3576.html](https://www.canyon.com/en-us/gravel-bikes/performance/grail-generation-2/cf-sl/grail-cf-sl-7-axs/3576.html)
Grizl CF SL 7 eTap [https://www.canyon.com/en-us/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/cf-sl/grizl-cf-sl-7-etap/3474.html](https://www.canyon.com/en-us/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/cf-sl/grizl-cf-sl-7-etap/3474.html)

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