Simon Jordan and Danny Kelly discuss Alexander Isak wanting to explore his options away from Newcastle, with the striker being linked to Liverpool!
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Start with the with the football if I I can. And um by the way, do you know who’s a really keen cyclist? Go on. Sugar. Alan Sugar. Massively one. When I see him in Spain all the time riding and he does hill riding. He’s as fit as a push dog. Sugar. Good for him. Good for him. Big big cyclist. Well, I get to see lots of very fit people. I live in the top of a hill as you know and it’s one of the local tests for the the people who when the tour to France comes on, they’ve suddenly got all the Lyra. There lot it’s big in Ireland. There’s lots of cycling clubs. Um, and the from the the village, you know, down in the river up to where I live, it’s a rise of about 750 ft, 5 milesi. Now, nothing for the guys doing the tour of France, but for an ordinary peddler, that is a a you Well, if I if I if I opened, shall we say 118 door at the top of the hill, I’d be making money, promise you, because you can hear the grunting and groaning as they come up there on a Sunday. Um the first story we’re going to cover though I think Simon and it started to break yesterday and this is to do with Alexander Isac once again being in the sights of several football clubs. We know that Al Hilal are after the Newcastle striker. Liverpool despite having spent money already for a center forward in Ekit um are also supposed to be involved. And it brings us around again, it’s almost a circular argument to what did Newcastle have to do to break into, you know, the ultra elite of English football clubs because in a space of the last few weeks, if we’re to believe everything we read, Mark Gay has turned them down. Brian and has had a choice and didn’t go. Jao Pedro, I mean, Ekit himself has had that choice. Um, first of all, we should establish you talk about legacy clubs. Newcastle are a massive football club and Newcastle. Yeah, you say that, but uh, you don’t think so beyond? I think they’re becoming bigger. I think they’re a very I think they’re a wonderful football club. Let’s get it straight. I used to have this conversation with the late Freddy Shepard all the time when I think they qualify for Europe and I was in in Spain with them and no one in Spain had ever heard of Newcastle. No. So, I that amused me greatly. But obviously Newcastle are a big football club in English football. there a football club that has a great degree of passion and recognizability and and and iconic names whether that be Jackie Milbour or whether it be Alan Sugar whatever else right Paul Gas and so on and so forth right and obviously this a hot bit of football and I’m a great admire of the football club and John Hall was a great friend of mine I live next door to him in Spain so I have a lot affection for it the challenge for them is they’ve not been given a fair landscape there were two clubs that have been able to build themselves into powerhouses in the English football and that were Chelsea and Man City and they were able to do it because they were able to have no control over what they spent So they built themselves up, brought the best players, and didn’t have to worry about keeping them because they were building towards success. Newcastle have the challenge now with PSR governance, which I think is ludicrous. That restricts them from being able to do that. So they’re going to have to go about it in a very different way unless PSR um is uh is is reconfigured to allow owners to be able to invest in teams as they wish. I once upon a time was against it. I’m now for this because I think PSR I thought like you and I used to discuss that it was gonna it was going to perhaps get some get control of the transfer market, get control of player salaries. It’s done neither. All it’s done is install the existing status quo and maintain that position. I I hope that wasn’t the secret agenda with it. I hope but it’s I hope it’s an I I think it isn’t. I think it’s if you look at if you look at where something emanates from and you follow the trail of who was behind it, then you can you can find out the motivations and the bigger clubs in Europe were for this. And so as a result of that, they knew they were pulling up a trap door. Now going to to Newcastle’s current situation, it’s a strange one because it’s first of all, I’d like to know the source who is detailing this information and and and where it’s coming from. And secondly, it comes straight off the back of this supposed this supposed information that found its way into the public domain that Alexander E requires a payriseise, a significant payriseise. And the debate was had between myself and Sam earlier in the week about how that looked and the argument of well, if that’s the market, that’s what the market pays and some some extent you have to accept that’s the price of top quality play in the market. But also on the other side, if you got a fellow on three-year contract who signed it in sound body of mind, Yeah. then you have that argument on the other side of it. I I don’t know whether this is a legitimate transactional opportunity for Alexander Usyk to leave to one of the bigger football clubs. You have to be careful not to confuse Alexander Usyk and Alexand three times this week. I don’t know whether it’s a legitimate situation where there’s going to be a transaction executed that enables him to leave to a bigger club or this is a stalking horse to bring Newcastle to the table to say listen I’m warning you this boy can go and he will go unless you give him what he wants. Listen, I’d love to hear from Newcastle fans about, you know, whether they think they’ve been hobbled by financial restrictions that apply to all clubs. They’re not kid. And whether the idea that Newcastle is not an elite football club, um, and look, I I don’t go along the idea necessarily that they’re not an elite football club. But I will what I will say, Simon, and this may be Londoentric, is that, you know, I I’ve met professional footballers who didn’t want to go and play in the Northeast. they want they they’ll always make some excuse up like oh my wife likes London. It depends what the terms of reference are for an elite football club. If you’re looking at elite football clubs by the role call of honors then there is no argument in modern football that Newcastle do not fill that category. That’s not suggesting they can’t. If you’re looking at elite football clubs for the passion and commitment of the fan base then they’re an elite football club. Yeah. Yeah. Listen Newcastle fans. 03717234. 03717234. We have got a packed agenda. We’ll try and squeeze in some of your calls. What What should they do about Alexander Isac? Um Newcastle can presumably they can afford to pay him. Presumably they want to keep him. But what if he wants to go? What’s the story? And why? What is preventing Newcastle? Other than in, you know, your minds, of course, they’re the biggest club in England. Why wouldn’t you say that about your own club? 03717234. What is holding back Newcastle? Why would Alexander Isac even want to leave to go to Liverpool? 03717234. Um, of course, of course, today we’ll keep you up to date from 11:00 with everything that’s happening in the test match as well. Um, the interesting one for Newcastle fans also is United pulling from yeah, Brenford to United rather than the other opportunities were there. Those are the sort of things that would worry me if I was a Newcastle fan. Of course, they’ve got Anthony Langer and he’s elected to go there and that’s a good deal. He’s a good player and uh and and he will add to Newcastle. I’m with Sheer on the ESAC argument. If if people want to buy him, first of all, Newcastle named the price and the terms of the conditions around the financing of that particular deal and sell him because you no one’s bigger than one football club. Eddie Hal won’t want somebody in the dressing room that’s not 100% committed. And so with with Sheer’s analysis, which is if they get 150 million quid, sell him. I don’t disagree with that because Newcastle is a bigger football club than ESAC. Uh and and they will they will have an opportunity to redeploy that money and it may well be that that that builds a better squad by than just one individual albeit is an individual of unique talent. I think Sure. Sure. Um that Simon is sending a chill through my old bones. Um it reminds me of the Gareth Bale sale where yes, world record fee and Spurs bought seven players to replace him. But if and if all seven were allowed to play with 10 others, they wouldn’t have replaced it. But that would mean that’s that’s going from one extreme to the other. That’s basically saying that bad buying is is something that people should avoid. They should avoid anyway. Yeah, of course. You have to be aware of it. That’s the point. Um Newcastle fans, let me give that number again. 03717234. Here’s some fuel for the fire for you. Gabri Bonahor joined Adi Oladipo on drive yesterday and explained why he Gabby believes that Alexander Isach is woven his rights to move on from Newcastle. You would have been told when he was signed from Real Sosa there that these are the plans. We’re going to get this player, this player, this player, this player. And he’s looked around the change room and look Newcastle think I’ve got a good squad, but he’s looked around the change room and thought you not you’re not delivering on your promises. Yeah. And and and he’s been around Newcastle now what is it nearly three years? He’s got three three years left on his contract. But he’s probably thought to himself, you know what, Newcastle, big club in Newcastle. Newcastle aren’t a big club worldwide. Just in Newcastle, that’s facts. Newcastle fans could come on and argue that with me. They’re a big club in Newcastle. He’s looking at it and thinking, I want to I might want to go and win Bondors. Yeah. Am I going to want to win Champions leagues? I don’t just play in the Champions League. I want to win it. I want to win Premier Leagues. I’m not 21. I’m 25. Newcastle can’t give me what I want. Desperate moment for you, Simon. You agree with Yeah, I was about to say this is what one of those mythical things where they passed around the eye to see you can see in this instance he’s passed around the brain. I don’t I I don’t think EC was told when he left Saucad that there was a whole raft of players that they were going to be signing. I don’t think that’s true at all. I think he was given an opportunity. Why would you make a hostage to fortune for yourselves going to backfire? Yeah. And and and you know you’re signing a player that at that particular point landed at Newcastle because there wasn’t an interest in the big from the bigger clubs. So let’s have it right with due respect to Newcastle and all the things that we talk about in in their exalted fan base. They are still a club that was a work in progress when Alexander Eik was signing for them and they may the vision might be becoming clearer now and the ambition but there was always going to be the restrictions that were going to be put upon Newcastle and the PIF fund that owns them uh around around financial confidence which is why I’ve always laid the claim as much as I like Eddie and I’ve really done a U-turn on my view as a manager but he won’t lead them to the holy to the holy grail of winning the Premier League. But that won’t be his fault. The way the No, it probably the way the finances are set up. It does seem, you know, in recent years, this is a separate argument, people like Aston Villa and Newcastle have made the leap into the into the Champions League and then been punished for it almost because their finances certainly I mean one example of that is Nottingham Forest going up when they were consequenced because they only carried out the losses they were allowed in the Championship, which I think is absurd. you’re disadvantaged when you go up to the Premier League as a result of being a Championship football club. And when you get there, you’ve got less opportunities than the established Premier League clubs because you can only carry so many losses, but you I suppose you have to be patient. You have to build and build and build and build. And the Man City and Chelsea of the world are fortunate through timing. And I and I’m going to say this now and I’m not just saying it because it happens to be Spurs. the you have to be patient and let me tell you that when the moment does come as it did in Bao after 17 years of nothing and all that patience and all that it was it was almost better for it Simon I I found myself in exchelis I was having out of body experience I was so excited not just myself associate patience with the Spurs fan base though Jim White and Simon Jordan Monday to Friday mornings from 10 on DAB via the Talk Sport app and on your smart speaker. Talk Sport
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Danny Kelly rules so much better than sensationalised Jim white
Really enjoy listening to Danny and Simon u can tell Simon has alot off respect for him!
Danny Kelly is a truly absorbing and likeable presenter but I just feel the show in this form is far too "nice". Jim, whatever you think of him, created a more entertaining show and knew how to provoke Simon into becoming his best version.
Clearly the newcastle owners dont want to pay him the money..and as hes top draw..he wants the money…its that simple..if i was newcastle I would tell him..u can move..but its to Saudi or france or Spain…not Liverpool…if he wants the money there will be interest…buy someone to replace him or come to an arrangement on wages till newcastle are happy to sell..hes basically down tools since he said he was injured at arsenal..he wasn't…they have manipulated this..and newcastle have also failed by not doing the right thing..its a mess
Let the other guy retire please.
Love the fact Gabby wore a cap with his average goals a season tally on it… 😉
Kelly IN – White OUT!
Liverpool are under the same restrictions as Newcastle utd. I really like Newcastle and Eddie Howe, but don’t act like the tables are different for each club. Liverpool are under as many restrictions as Newcastle is… the simple fact is that Liverpool are a bigger club with more revenue and therefore more money to spend I know it hurts for Newcastle fans … I get it .. but this is football… it’s about revolution.. Liverpool went through this a few years ago.. it’s part of the process… stop being bitter … enjoy the money and the journey.. that’s what makes football great … you will all appreciate this part of it when your winning … which will definitely come with this project and management
liverpool sold coutinho and then got 3 players with the money that improved the overall squad and that allowed liverpool to move up closer to chelsea n city and then build on that over time to get to the position they are in now. arsenal are a step behind but are patiently and slowly trying to build themselves up and newcastle need to see that and use the isak money as a stepping stone towards that same path. so its very hard to get up to the elites, but not impossible.
Newcastle can't afford to pay him 300k. Smashes the wage structure will cause bigger headaches financially going forward.
PSR is the biggest gate keeping nonsense though. Limits actual growth outside of top 6.
I would never watch simon talksport videos because of jim white but this week it’s been nice
I don’t like people asking to remove Jim White, he’s an outstanding broadcaster.
However, there’s no doubt that Danny Kelly is ridiculously underused by Talksport. And you can tell Simon Jordan respects him greatly.
Sell him if he wants to go. No point keeping a player who doesn't want to be a part of the team and club. Cash in and keep moving forward!
Isak owes 1 more season for Newcastle if only if they sign 3-4 more quality players
“The biggest clubs in Europe were for this” says Simon. Well, PSR is in English football because the Premier League voted for it. At least 14 of the PL clubs voted for it. So let’s not talk nonsense, Simon.
Isak just go you r harts not at Newcastle we do not want u here because you r not playing for the club and harts not with the fans bye and thanks for your hard work… let him go we move on
If isak goes to liverpool insist he doesn't play against newcastle this season.
Breath of fresh air Danny. Jim is a good presenter but being the only one individual for his role is open to being abused or just taken with ego potentially. I can't put my finger on it but the John Textor interview was an uncomfortable watch and listen..Jim was on a completely different frequency then John who was calm and collected and let's be honest, answered the question in a way most people would understand
No more Jim White!!
Jim white don't read the comments 😅😅
Liverpool sold Coutinho for 140m and made the overall team BETTER
Isak transfer fee will allow a serious rebuild of the SQUAD rather than individual replacement, in the same way Andy Cole generated the momentum to end up with the entertainers team, including Shearer.
PSR should be scrapped, it's only purpose is to protect the cartel elite.
Jordan is boring
We need to see more of this pairing
“The biggest club in England?” How this jabba the hut looking jackarse didn’t fall over after saying that absolute pile of shite is beyond me. Eejit