In this episode, Tom and Max reconnect after a break, sharing updates on their training and experiences in the world of cycling and triathlon. They discuss the differences in professionalism between cycling and triathlon, recount their recent race experiences, and delve into the controversies surrounding race regulations, particularly at Ironman Frankfurt. The conversation also touches on the importance of nutrition and recovery strategies, as well as listener engagement through questions and community interaction. The episode wraps up with predictions for upcoming events and a reflection on the evolving nature of competitive sports.
[Music] Welcome dogs. Get your goggles. Get your titles like a dry suit. Put on those compression socks. Why be good at one sport if you can be [Â __Â ] at free? This is the travel mockery podcast. What’s going on, dogs? It’s been a flipping while I can tell you that. And I was waiting behind my microphone every flipping day. And what a week it’s been. It was I man Frankfurt. It’s uh what is it? Challenge rough coming up this weekend and we’ve got lots more in this episode. Maxi, it’s good to finally see you back. Damn, what a what a while. You’re you grow a mustache in the in the meanwhile. Sorry dogs. Yeah, I’ve uh I’ve been super busy and really hard to get a hold of, but we’re back with going to be a killer show. Got a lots to talk about from Frankfurt and lots to look forward to from Roth. So, um,
have you got highs and lows for this week like or or for the last two weeks?
Yeah, I’ve got a high. Um, I got a high and a low. I’ve got a high. Uh, my coach is out here with uh the whole team. He’s brought two guys along. So, I feel like a proper pro, man. I got a support car. I’ve got the gels in the car, the everything. I’ve never had a support car before. And to have a support car, man, you feel like yesterday I did a bike swap, man. I did half the session on the road bike, half the session on the TT. I felt like Ted Pogacha.
Who um who’s the coach?
So he’s called Luca. He’s an Italian guy and he’s uh obviously he’s my coach and he coaches as well like Greg Barnaby, Seth Ryder, but he also works for UAE 8Q in the women’s cycling team. So coaches Alisa Longini uh and a lot of the top Italian riders. So uh very specific, very cycling kind of like mentality with data and stuff. So I’ve gone full full kit full kit wanker, mate. Okay. And um um he just switches off every every week. He’s just treating someone else to like a world pro tour team kind of uh service.
Well, he was on uh he was in the women’s Jirro prep uh for 3 weeks at altitude and he was saying he was spending five hours a day in the car just following the girls like crazy just behind them just when they were cycling like just insane. So to come here for him I think is a bit of like a relief because he can sit on poolside and not have to be in the car all day.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean I mean he’s just like on a holiday, isn’t he?
Yeah.
So
Yeah.
But also like you realize how much more professional cycling is compared to triathon, man. Like these these guys and girls, they have like the bottles calculated for the amount of carbs they need every hour. They have like the the massage guy, the cook, the the everything, the ma the mattresses are custom made like insane.
Speaking of world tour, um I had a low of the week. So, as everyone know over the last couple of uh months, I uh I have just been uh yeah, working full-time. So, I haven’t been training a lot. I do do a fair bit of running. I do a fair bit of gym. I tried to pick up cycling a little bit again, but I haven’t been doing a lot of cycling over the last couple of months. Uh, and on Sunday, I messaged my good mate and he uh rode for Boroance Growaway. Now he rides for Astana. And um he had the national championships on Saturday and then on Sunday I said, “All right, so we do like an easy ride. This is a little bit of chitchat.” And uh uh so it’s like a recovery ride for him and it’s like a normal ride for me, just 31ks an hour, something like that. And then he was like, “All right, well uh let let’s do it.” So I rode. So he lives in the H. That’s where I used to live. And then I live in Amsterdam. So we meet like in the middle, which is like 30k each. So when I arrived there, he came cycling up with another friend of mine uh and his uh called Martin. And they started off spanking like 37 40ks an hour on the road bike. I said, “What the [ __ ] are we doing?” And uh Martin said, “Yeah, he had a last minute call this morning. He has to go to the tour to France.” So uh he’s got he’s going to do a little bit of panic training the last week uh that he’s able to like bank a really long steady ride. So instead of like chitchatting, mate, I’ve been wheel sucking and sweating tits. Like it was 34° and and and I was like not fit at all. And I was just suffering like a dog. And it was crazy. Like it made me think like, “Oh, I need to get back on the bike. I need to do more cycling because this was embarrassing.” Like flipping embarrassing. Why did you get the call? Did someone pull out of the tour squad or was someone crash or something?
I think he was even like second or third reserve uh this year. Um but then someone got sick, someone else had like an accident. Um so then uh um yeah, he’s the man for the job. I’m not even
That’s pretty cool, man.
It Well, he’s already rode the tour twice and yes, it is flipping cool. But I’m not sure if it’s because the level is so high nowadays. So flipping high. Uh if it’s still fun to ride it if you’re not like one of the top dogs because it’s always like, “Oh, we just heard Jonas is almost at the finish line, so you’ve got 30 minutes left to finish.” Yeah. I actually heard a story yesterday. Luca was telling me he was coaching a guy who was proconty, so like the level below World Tour, and he’s a sprinter, and he was calculating the exact watts he had to do in the TT to go as easy as possible uh to make it to make the time cut, you know, and then Yonas decided to push like a crazy number in Toronto Adriatica. So, he got disqualified on the time cut because he went too slow. And
I already know from like professional triathlon that is that it’s uh it’s just not fun if you’re off the back, you know. I can I can also see it with other top professionals that used to like win IMM races and now aren’t even competing for a top 10.
Um it it is hard when when but the times are changing. The times are going up and getting faster. And also in cycling if I like I’ve I spoke about this with Eiday like a lot and uh two years ago he even won like a 1.1 category world tour race which is like uh phenomenal and he’s done time trials where he’s like in like um a tour or something where he was quicker or in the Catalunia or whatever where he was quicker than Rogue Leach and and others and he made like the top five. So he was like in in flipping decent shape two three years ago. He rode in the red dotted jersey for 10 days in the in the tour to France 3 years ago or two years ago. I don’t even know. But he said he’s better today than he was then but he’s not he’s struggling nowadays sometimes to finish. That’s how crazy the level went up in
cycling. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. Yeah. I mean, I think I think sport in general since co has gone a bit crazy, but cycling, especially now with like the super teams, you have like Vizma have like three grand tour winners on their tour squad.
I know.
It’s like what the hell? But do you think they’re just eating a little bit more of oatmeal or or is there like a new juice in the game that we don’t know of? Um, I mean, I think there’s been game there’s been like gains made in like stuff like tire pressure, aerodynamics, bike technology, nutrition, whatever. But I think there’s some some dirty old secrets that are still lurking around in the background, baby.
It’s got to be like I don’t know. I just sometimes things are just I don’t know. Just um people are always smarter, you know. um as as uh there’s always something new. There’s always something new. But I mean when I think I think when you when you think about the amount of money that’s in there now you you’re talking in like the tens of millions of dollars team budgets like 50 $40 million team budget like the sponsor wants to win you know and when you want to win then
you do what you need to do to win you know like it’s
when when I was looking at a kitchen I wanted to like have a little uh Bora kitchen uh how do you call it uh appliances? Yeah, I wanted to have a little Bora kitchen appliances. Now, I know why they sponsor like a flipping world tour because all my money is going in there. So, I didn’t do it because it was crazy overpriced compared to like other brands.
Yeah. And that’s that’s that’s your financing these teams that they can go to Italy, find a coach, and uh drive them around. Thanks, guys. So, what’s your low of the week then? My low of the week is actually like it’s not my low, but it’s um I felt responsible for it. So, I go to the physio every week and my my mate’s the physio and he’s a really nice guy and he’s up here treating athletes and everything. And Hugo was booked in behind me uh for the physio and I said to him, “Hey man, okay, I go to the physio and then I send you my location and then you come and whatever and that’s it.” So, I got on the table on WhatsApp. You know, you do share live location.
Yeah.
So, I shared my live location, put the phone down, and I just forgot about it. Had my massage. And at the end of the massage, I have five missed calls, four messages, like, “What the [Â __Â ] bro?” And I’m like, “Whoa, whoa, whoa. What’s going on here?” Turns out my GPS had gone completely crazy in the mountains and had sent a pin in the middle of the forest. So he so he followed the pin all the way and he walked 10 minutes with his bike into the forest cuz he was like
doing here Max.
And I said to him, “Man, like you didn’t think for two seconds like what the hell? You’re not in the I’m not going in the forest.” And if you see on YouTube, this is where he went to to go to the physio. But maybe I mean, you never know. Maybe it’s one of these like uh um yeah tantric slash uh um yeah environmental nature massages just to do to to highlight highlight the senses and uh it could be could have been
and then he finally made it to the physio and I was like oh my god I feel bad and then he came he’s like I know you did it on purpose you sent me to the forest for nothing and I was like man no I swear to God I swear to God he’s I don’t believe you. You’re a liar. Who was this?
Hugo Milner.
Oh, Hugo Miller.
But I was like, man, when you when you were walking for 5 minutes in the forest, you didn’t think to yourself, this is wrong. You were just like, “No, I’m going to keep walking further and further and further.”
At some point, there will be a cabin in the woods opening up. What um where whereabouts do you go to the fish then? In Bul. Yeah, bulk. He just has an apartment and he treats from there. He treats all Joel’s squad and and us and whoever else wants to go and he’s just a guy that I get treatment from in Jerona. So, I know um I know him quite well. But man, talking about Hugo this morning, this he did a session. So, we had a session this morning. We had I had 8 by1K and 4 by 30 seconds kind of like strides just nice technique at the end.
And I said,
“No, in the 8 by1K Um, and he go and I say to him, “Look, I’m going to start out around 3:05 and see if I can go any faster, you know?” He goes, “Oh, okay. Okay. I’ll start with you. I’ll start with you, man. First rep 248.” And I’m like, “Man, what the [Â __Â ] are you doing?” Like, this is 305. 248 at altitude.
And then, man, he did he did he started 248 and he held it the whole way. And then he finished the last two at 240. 8 by 1k, one minute rest. Wow. Man, but that’s definitely a few to max session for him.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the guy’s a a beast. And then he was like
of a minute rest. That is uh
And then he did 2x five by 3030 like full gas just and ran 23k just crazy machine.
That is that is phenomenal. I mean I um last week um for uh Gona Gonafuel we were going to a um lake because Man of Kohhas uh who led out of the water uh at the elite um so he’s a Dutch guy he went to the Iron Man World Championships last uh October and he was first out of the water and he was going to do a 6K open water swim and we were going to shoot some content and he’s just like flipping gliding a 116 16 bass per 100 over 6ks. And to me, that’s just [Â __Â ] sickening because it’s just I don’t know. It’s just nuts. I just can’t Can you do that? Yeah. You’re also a phenomenal swimmer. But
yeah. Yeah. But man, I I used to think I was okay at swimming. And then we we’ve been eating uh dinner. She’s gone now, but with the Olympic silver medalist in the open water
in Paris. And you know, Hugo was like, “Yeah, I think I could outsw swim you, you know, like.” And I and we kind of asked her, “Okay, what’s your all-time best session?” Like your best session of all time when you were when you did your best session. She goes, she said she did 2k straight 108 and then 15 times 100 leaving on 110, leaving on 110 coming in 102. 50 m long course. Wow. That is a girl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is that is uh And how old is she?
Like 27. Crazy. It was crazy. I tried to swim with her once or twice, man. It was She was smashing me.
But it’s I I just I mean with with cycling for example, I it’s just And same with running. while running is also biomechanics, but it’s like mainly um uh uh power and and like uh um but with swimming there’s this hydrodnamics is just such a big factor like how arrow you are in the water and uh
because I remember when I I’ve once swam with like these special power pedals. So I don’t know if you know if you know one
but you can you don’t know oh it’s like a power paddle
and uh so I was swimming at like this is years ago I was swimming with kids in the hake and it was like the national uh uh selection team and it was during co so I got I got to swim with swim with them and then one of the coaches said try this and they can see where you’re putting power on your stroke so when your catch is and when you’re when you’re um when it stops and also how much pressure you’re putting onto the water and thus you measure how the aerodynamic or hydrodnamic you were. They said, “Well, you’ve actually got a decent bit of power.” And I said, “Yeah, but I’m not going forward, so where is it all going?” Um, but there were kids there swimming and they’re like, uh, uh, one of them uh, she was, I think, 13 or 14 and she was the youth national champion 150 meter pool and I think she also swam something like 110 or 109 average at 14 or 15 years old. And then it’s it’s faster. I think it’s a 103 or 104 average. Is that possible? 104.
Yeah, that’s possible. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. No, but I think swimming, the hard thing with swimming is like
cycling, you could if you just ride a lot, you’re going to get better, you know?
Yeah.
Running, same thing. You’re going to get better. But like the swim, it’s so I feel like it’s like almost m some sort of like magic, you know? Like you either have the the thing or you don’t have it, you know? Well, last time I checked, I didn’t have it. It’s just so [Â __Â ] hard. And I I I mean, it’s Sometimes I like to swim and sometimes I’m just like, this is an endless graft, you know? But what’s um So, how long you stay still at altitude for?
I have one more week and then I drop into Hamburg and then I’ve actually decided to come back up after Hamburg for an extra two and a half weeks. So that’ll give me about seven weeks at altitude all up in the summer and I can use that block for like pretty much
the rest of the season, you know.
Yeah.
Um and yeah, it’s just like the gains you can make here compared to sea level is is crazy,
you know.
I mean, you see it now in the tour. Everyone’s at altitude before the tour and
wasn’t in the egg, the flattest place on earth. He was actually below sea level.
Then he used to go into the M. Hey man, are you still able to ride next week? We’ve got this little race. It’s three weeks.
He says, but you can do it. It’s just basically uh just stick with the bunch. Stick with the bunch.
Just stay in the bunch, man.
What um shall we shall we quickly head over to Iron Man Frankfurt? Iron Man Frankfurt. Um the race is Notch. I would say it’s the biggest race together with Roth in uh Europe. Um, of course German race um and um it was flipping boiling hot 30 to 34° and there was a massive massive pro field and because we didn’t record a podcast in a long time, we didn’t do a preview but um basically there were all like the Iron Man world record holder um world champions on the start list. So flipping juicy. But just let’s only get into the spicy things of what happened because everyone can look up the result. Um, but just let’s go into like some spicy details and what can we learn from it? I think we can learn that referees really need to just calm down especially in Germany. Now what happened Max?
Well I mean the podium was so Christian Blumenfeld, Christian Hoganhal and Casper. So full Scandinavian podium, but the big drama mainly came from two incidents. The main incident that was caught live on camera was Ditv being given a disqualification red card for littering. Uh so essentially throwing away his water cup outside the littering zone and then Christian Hogenhau being given a penalty when he was in the lead for outside assistance. I actually know the guy who gave him outside assistance, which I don’t believe was outside assistance. Um he literally ran man like three strides next to him and just told him a split, you know.
For who was for him?
Hogan. Christian Hogan. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And it was just his friend on the side of the course being like, “You have two minutes or whatever. Christian’s closing.” That’s all he said to him, you know, like it was nothing crazy. He didn’t hand him anything. He didn’t push him. He didn’t take anything from him. It was completely just like a normal thing, you know. And then Ditv was fully disqualified for littering. And for me when I see this stuff I’m just kind of like what the hell is going on you know?
So I think what what happened with Ditliff was well at least that’s what I could see from the coverage a little bit. So Ditliff is flipping motoring along 330 340 minutes per kilometer pace which is absolute howling in the heat after like a 45 km average bike. And then this German guy literally that the guy that got bi bullied in high school referee just came up cycling next to him and said something like um you’ve got a penalty. You’ve got a penalty for uh for littering. You’ve got a penalty for littering because was it on the bike or the run where he littered a bit?
The run. I think
it was the run. So because he didn’t do that at that that moment he I think Diff said something. What the [Â __Â ] are you on about? I have that was afterwards. So, because he wasn’t responding, he said, “You need to stop. You need to stop.”
And because he didn’t stop, he pulled the red card. Like, “All right, you’re disqualified.” And it’s like he’s playing with kids, you know?
Yeah.
This is He’s not like flipping littering. This guy is the world record holder. And um there is he’s running for prize money. He was was he second at that time?
He was second at that point. Yeah,
he was second. And literally when he comes in second in a race or wins the race, whatever, we’re talking about hundreds of thousands of euros. What is on the line now this guy is like, “You’re disqualified.” Like he’s playing with like uh uh uh amateur sport or something. Yeah.
And he just took it way too serious
in the end. It did got overruled in the end. So he gave the disqualification. Luckily uh Magnus uh kept going and later on uh the disqualification was uh overturned but still if I were in his position like in deadlift position it will flip and miss mess with my head. I would think I’m flipping disqualified. I uh what is it all worth now to dig deep?
Yeah because that in that in that moment technically he was disqualified up until the finish you know
because he had to get to the finish to argue it. So you you can’t measure how much that would screw with your head, you know, especially when you’re motoring, you’ve just passed Christian, you’re you’re you’re chasing the lead and some idiot comes up to you and shows you a red card. Like for me, I think there needs to be some sort of understanding from the referee’s point of view that like there has to be a margin of error, you know, like when you’re 6 and a half hours, 7 hours deep to a race physical effort, there’s clear evidence that like there’s cognitive, you know, cognitive degradation, you know, like you’re not really fully conscious of what you’re doing. Like if you really man, if you really wanted to penalize him, you could have said, “Okay, Magnus, stop for 30 seconds and go again.” you know, like then then everyone’s happy. You’ve done your little penalty, you know, you’ve enforced your rule, but to DQ someone like especially I saw him here on his camp, you know, um the amount he was putting in in terms of training, but also all the little details, all the arrow, all the nutrition, like the recovery and and and you’re just going to like ruin someone’s race like that, you know, like
Yeah.
For me, it shows just a serious first of all lack of understanding of the sport, but also a lack of respect to the athletes, you know.
Exactly. Um uh totally because what if he would would have ran up until like 34 35 kilometers and then he got really deep in his [Â __Â ] as in like cramping up struggling to finish and then he would think like all right I’m already disqualified. What am I doing here? I’m just going to pull out.
Um like you’re saying there’s there’s very very high stakes and and if he was obviously showing uh unfair uh how do you call it? Uh uh sportsmanship. Um yeah, unsportsmanlike conduct, unsportsmanlike uh uh behavior. For example, throwing plastic in the middle of a forest or or like uh um in the middle of nowhere. But this was a few meters. We’re literally talking like what was it like 3 mters outside the liter zone after the the eight station and you want to disqualify the world record holder that’s going for like either the win well at least podium what he was going for.
Um yeah, it’s just there’s a lot at stake. a lot a lot.
But also there’s another point that we were talking about with the guys here. It’s like if you did if you did that in like South Africa or Chile or France or like the refs wouldn’t be like that. But you know what what reputation do you want to give your race? Like this year Frankfurt was basically the World Championships before the World Championships, you know? Yeah. Like and maybe next year Magnus will be like, you know what, screw that. I’m not going back to Frankfurt. I’ll go race
I don’t know. I’ll go race Nice or I’ll go race Texas or I’ll go race. So you’re losing your you’re discouraging your top athletes from actually coming back because if you’re going to treat them like dirt, they’ll just go somewhere else, you know, and then all of a sudden you lose the profile of your race all because one ref wanted to make a name for himself, you know, like
what the hell?
And then be flipping stricter at drafting if you want to enforce some rules. Uh
but yeah, it’s uh of course the life of a referee uh is never easy,
but um yeah, it’s uh it’s it’s a shame.
But man, like the German refs are notorious for that. I can remember at sub seven, they tried to disqualify Joe Skipper for using the bloody remember the the weed sprayer. Remember when the ref tried to disqualify him? That was ridiculous. Like it was a private event
and Alistister Brownley started losing his [Â __Â ] You remember that?
Yeah. He was like, “You can’t disqualify him. This is a bloody private event, you idiot.” Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was true because And then he had to get rid of the weed killer man because so basically the weed killer man was a was a guy on a bike and you know like a weed killer device, but then he stacked it up with like ice water so he could like continuously cool Joe Skipper down. Uh, which was actually pretty smart while uh Christian was running along with two canyons battling it out in the heat
trying not to crash into him.
Joe was having like a full full pool uh ice shower for two and a half hours. But yeah, that that in the in the end they they had to stop doing that. But I don’t know, they just they’re just so serious. They’re just like so flipping serious. But then everything in Germany because they take it so flipping serious is always well taken care of. But speaking about disqualification I had like there’s a guy that I’m coaching that is going to do uh uh Victoria Gustace and he says he’s running in the Nova Blast Fives from AS6 and he said they’re on the band list from Iron Man. To me they look like regular shoes. I I I haven’t even looked into this. and he said they’re on the on the on the list of of like band shoes, but is Iron Man really enforcing rules at amateurs? Like, hey, you’re running on a band shoe because this is just like a regular shoe what you can buy. And also, um I mean, I get it for pros, but do they actually I’m I’m honestly asking this to amateurs that are listening. Has every anyone ever been disqualified for something like this? because I just don’t think I just don’t want to make him buy another like €300 pair of shoes because the sport is already expensive enough, you know, and the guy’s going to do around 13 hours. So, it’s not like he’s trying to win the age group fields. You understand what I’m saying?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
DQ for you. Oh, looks like those shoes are a bit too big, mate. DQ. Yeah, but I’m but I’m running six minute per kilometer, mate. It doesn’t matter. It’s a DQ.
Rules are rules, mate. Rules are rules. Yeah, I don’t know. This is an honest question. Um, anyway, there this weekend coming up, challenge Roth. Yep, got some big hitters. Sam Lelo’s back. Uh, we have Fred Funk doing his first ever Iron Man. Tom Bishop. Uh, it’s going to be a big one. really really big race. Obviously probably the biggest triathon in
the world I’d say. Yeah.
Yeah. I think uh maybe
well the field is nowhere near as good as Frankfurt.
No, you got Vincent Louie doing his first one. Frederick Funk is doing his first Iron Man which is kind of exciting.
Yeah. In in the women is there Laura Phillip? Is she racing? Uh I think maybe Lisa Nordon is back. Yeah, Laura Phillip is racing. Uh so yeah, I mean I think Laura after her Hamburg performance, I think it’s going to be hard very hard to beat her.
Yeah, even if she has a bad day, she’s still hard to beat.
Yeah. Yeah. But in the men, I think it’s going to be interesting obviously because you got to think maybe Vince is going to swim shortc course style and uh string it out. I’ve seen him up here a bit. He’s been doing some crazy rides, bro. Like 250k in 40°ree heat. Like insane stuff. Yeah, man. Like crazy crazy.
But but do you think it’s sensible or uh we’ll see. We’ll see. Yeah. Also, uh the former podcast co-host Jody Skiver Skipper is going to give it another rip on the weekend after, uh he didn’t feel well in, uh in uh Kagan for which is also exciting to see. Um yeah, basically what Fun Remote did all for all these people. Yeah, we’ll see. Yeah, I I was tempted to go to Rough just uh um I I was able to drive there this morning with like a friend of mine who’s racing Tristan No. He’s also racing in the pro field. The guy’s also flipping animal.
We have Milan Milan Bronze from the from the Netherlands who’s racing as well. He was here training with Vin.
Yeah, he’s actually quite cool. Yeah, I I wanted to go to Rough, but then I was thinking, what am I going to do? It’s already Wednesday, then I’m there on Thursday. It’s not really I can record a lot of podcasts with with like other pros there just like to do some interviews because they just want to focus on the race. Yeah.
Then there’s not much I can do with videos and then just there for the sake of the sport and it’s like too long of a drive and also need to work a lot this week. So, um
yeah,
but I still want to go to rough with the caravan one day. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I feel like that finish line is pretty iconic and that hill as well. That would be cool to cycle up that hill. solo crowd.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It’ll be a good It’ll be entertaining.
All right, everyone. Let’s head over to the question of the week. Um this one is from Harry Swings and um he’s asking us, “What is a bigger noob move? riding around in a full world tour team kit for the local group ride or a TT bike with disc wheel arrow helmet in a group ride. Just curious what you lads think about this one. I’ve seen it both happen and I can’t figure out what’s worse. Um I mean what I find the hard thing is riding around in a in a world tour team kit. You can be a massive fan of the sport, you know. Um, you can be a massive fan of cycling and just flipping love their their kids and you just want to feel that little bit of that today in you or that or that ving gingard. Um, that is just it’s just a piece of Lycra, isn’t it? Where you want to show I want to feel like the big boys. But you’re just saying I’m a fanboy. I don’t think that’s that bad.
Yes.
Yeah.
Looks weird. But does it really look weird? He’s just a fan of the sport. He does what he wants. Now, riding around on a TT bike with disc wheels and arrow helmet, and I’m not even going to start off with like in a flipping group, right? But like in general, is flipping nuts. Um, the only time when you’re wearing your arrow helmet and your disc wheel is either during race week when you want to do a final prep, maybe one time during a long key session just to see if everything works. But apart from that, no way, Jose. Um, and especially not in a flipping group, right? Like that is that is nuts. Completely nuts. What do you think? Yeah, I feel like I can forgive the world tour kit a bit more because like, you know, if it’s a kid and it’s like, you know, he’s wearing a UAE kit or Vizma or whatever, like he’s just a fan. And then but I often see old guys in don’t you often see old guys in full team kit like especially up here in France they’re all wearing like the the Vizmo or the UAE and I mean it’s kind of funny. I find it kind of funny but yeah if if you’re taking it seriously and you got the whole stuff like chill out bro you know. But yeah for sure for me the the full TT in a group ride in a group ride bro. No way.
No way.
Go home. But but um I I was thinking why is it weird to wear a teen kit on the bike, you know? I mean, you also when you’re on the highway and someone you can see someone passing you in the car and they’re wearing like a polo from Max Forstein and Red Bull. It’s not weird, you know, just let the guy do his thing. He’s just what he’s just a big He’s just a big fan. He just feels like uh I don’t know. He feels like he’s in the mix or something. So, I think we should leave people in the value. Uh, and yeah, with with the the TT helmet and the disc wheel. Um, first of all, it is just very very unnecessary because you want to keep those gains for race day. So, when you have race day, you’re going to put that TT helmet on, you’re going to put that disc wheel in, and you feel like you’ve got that bonus 25 watts. So, that’s one thing that you’re ruining if you’re already using it in training. And second thing is it’s just flipping goofy. I think it’s the equivalent to riding in a thong. Uh yeah. In a in like a borat thong. Yeah. I mean for me it’s also just dangerous dude because if you’re in a like if you’re in the TT bars in a group like first of all you don’t do that. Second of all like you just have less control with the disc wheel with the wind and everything. So I just think it’s almost rude you know like man what are you doing with your TT bike? Like come on. Yeah. And um I remember last January I was in uh um Crankin area and then at like uh at some point I got passed by a group of six guys that were doing like a group ride, all on TT bikes, all with arrow helmets, all with disc wheels, all age groupers. And I was thinking, why the hell in January would you go on a training camp in your flipping full race gear? Yeah, that’s insane. That’s insane to me.
That’s just nuts. Um, have you got a [Â __Â ] buster? Yeah, I’ve actually got a [Â __Â ] buster, but it actually backfired, but I’m going to say it anyway. So, I know someone who went for a run with Casper Storz the day before their race uh in Frankfurt and he was doing
So, this was this was on the Saturday, the day before the race.
Yeah. And you know, I’d usually be sitting here saying, “Yeah, 100% [Â __Â ] whatever.” But he had a really good race, so I still think it’s [Â __Â ] Don’t do it. If you see Casper doing this, don’t do it. He was running in like six or seven layers of clothes, like sweatpants, two pairs of socks, three jackets, beanie, doing heat prep the night before the Iron Man. What’s that all about?
Did they really do that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I’m not a scientist or something, but um the day the the day before the race, you don’t really want to deplete yourself. It sounds a bit like a panic heat prep, but I I don’t know. In the end, uh he finished, what did he finish? Second or third. Yeah, he got third. So,
he got third at Frankfurt.
He’s already busted the [Â __Â ] buster
in in this field, but then still he came in third. Could he have won the race or come in second if he didn’t do stupid [Â __Â ] like that? I don’t know.
But dude, you want to know something even more crazy? This is even more of a [Â __Â ] buster. When we were juniors, dude, I raced a race in Halton in the Netherlands, actually.
Yeah.
You know, and it’s like an iconic race. This guy the night before the Norwegian team was doing hill strides with rocks in backpacks, dude. What?
In H. Yeah. They found like the only hill in Halton and did like hill strides with weighted vests. What the [Â __Â ] Really? Yeah.
But they did heel strides with rocks in their backpack. That sounds a little bit like CrossFit training. So, don’t don’t do what you see on TV, guys. Yeah, but in the end, flipping Norwegian or or a Scandinavian clean sweep, you know? Uh I think I should be getting my backpack with my rocks and just get out there with a double layered skin. Yeah, for sure. I know. It’s crazy. It’s crazy. I mean, it was complete Scandinavian uh top five or no, maybe not the fifth. I don’t know who it was fifth, but one, two, three, four was all Scandinavian. Yeah.
Crazy how good they’re getting, huh?
All right, everyone. Maxi Sweat and Balls, I can uh I will see you uh next week. Let’s Let’s try uh I’m going to try and keep you accountable for maybe Monday or Tuesday after uh yeah, rough for a for a debrief. Well, now my Wi-Fi is working again. I’ve got a lot more confidence in the my ability to do regular podcasting.
Okay. Okay. Right, mate. Thanks. Have a good one. See you, mate.
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great chat as always gents.
Max is the goat