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00:00 Лазарев в эфире 🗣️
00:58 Сумское «успех-отступление» 🔄
02:07 Где наступление, Сырский? 📉
03:05 Белецкий и тела ВСУ ⚰️
04:04 Зеленский vs Трамп 🤝
06:45 ЕС не в восторге от Украины 🇪🇺🙅
08:11 Фейки и мобилизация 👩‍💼🚫
09:11 Удар по Киеву забыли? 💥
11:04 Как жить в хаосе? 🌀
11:36 ПВО сбивают — но как? 🎯
13:49 ПВО в жилых кварталах 🏠
15:05 Политики нет — только Ермак 👤
16:04 Протесты: правда или постановка? 🎭
18:42 Кто финансирует улицу? 💸
20:09 Протесты — прививка от бунта 💉
22:16 Полиция пугает, не защищает 🚔
24:01 МВД — опора авторитаризма 🛑
25:42 Выборы и рейтинги 📊
27:41 Залужный — угроза? 🧨
30:08 Рейтинги боятся публиковать 😶
31:48 Рисованные проценты 📈
32:53 Поддержка в Гааге — театр? 🎬
34:49 Зеленский смотрит на себя в ТВ 📺
35:59 Паспорт не украинский — тренд 📘
36:56 Трамп, Иран и Украина 🇮🇷⚖️
39:07 Почему вспыхнул Иран? 🔥
40:47 Перемирие — с подачи Трампа? 🕊️
42:39 Украина vs Ближний Восток ⚖️
44:31 Сулеймани и параллели ⚔️
44:44 Убийство, протесты, джихад ☪️
45:35 МАУ сбили — внимание переключено ✈️
46:32 Трамп: я решал конфликты 🌍
47:15 Китай — вот где враг США 🐉
48:55 США и Россия — к диалогу? 📞
50:30 Эрдоган — переговорщик? 🧿
54:50 Турция рулит на Ближнем Востоке 🕌
55:45 США и РФ снова за столом 🇺🇸🇷🇺
57:12 Зеленский боится меморандума 📜
58:12 Экономика и демография тают ⏳
59:57 В армии — азовские разборки 🪖
01:01:17 Война и Telegram-диверсии 📲
01:03:27 ЧВК после войны? 🥷
01:07:09 Украина: нейтралитет или хаос ⚖️

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I greet you dear friends respected guests and subscribers of my channel Alexander Lazarev is online right now Alexander I greet you hello and friends subscribe to Lazarev links in the descriptions and YouTube channel and Telegram channel in general stay in touch as they say Alexander let’s try and analyze what is happening now then in general everything is somehow so dull igaaga there was an intense meeting with Trump slides well I mean printed photographs of the Russians transferred among the dead Ukrainian soldiers in general a wonderful conversation but somehow Trump’s mood is changing for the worse in relation to Putin to Zelensky the press writes about this and the Council of Europe which is establishing a tribunal over Russian officials and what’s more this tribunal word sounds from the lips such quite serious prospects listen and at the front everything turns out to be good Syrsky said that stabilization in the Sumy direction in general that is everyone was stopped and in fact nothing portends trouble why they are creating for us a picture well total victory You know as they say before death not you’ll breathe in yes Well, now the situation inside Ukraine and in the foreign policy direction is so catastrophic that they need to cover it up with something and purely according to Goebbels yes, the stronger the lie, the more willingly they believe it and it turns out to be a story in which all the mistakes, all the losses, all the failures of Zelensky’s government they are trying to present as achievements yes, in this case we see the situation there with the front, for me it’s generally such a well, it’s not a comical situation of course, but nevertheless what Syrsky says is that the Russian army is no longer advancing, we went from defense to offensive to attack, where did we go from defense to offensive? There are battles going on for some village, well, they will kill even more people, okay, and what about the Dnepropetrovsk direction? The Russian army has already entered the territory of the Dnepropetrovsk region, for some reason they don’t talk about this in Kiev or it doesn’t count. Only some village has strategic importance in the Sumy region in this victory or victories in the fact that they are well, for me it’s generally just not even as a political scientist there yes, not as a public figure as an ordinary person I will say yes, purely from a moral point of view, they showed the chevrons of the Russian army near the bodies of the dead soldiers that Russia handed over, why didn’t they show the passports of the Russian Federation, the ID of the special services, there is rudely the FSB a photo with Vladimir Putin or a pass to the Kremlin, well, so that it would be finally clear that these are not Ukrainian troops, not the Ukrainian Armed Forces of Ukraine, in fact, this is a circus, and such a shameful circus on the blood, on the deaths of its own citizens, literally yesterday or the day before yesterday Beletsky made a statement, yes, he is a radical, well, for me, he is a pure Nazi, uh, in general, an ideologically opposite person to me, but he said a very interesting thing, a very interesting thing yesterday Beletsky said, he said that Kiev is deliberately not handing over and not identifying the bodies of the dead Armed Forces of Ukraine that Russia handed over because it does not want to pay, it has nothing to pay with, and he called on people to go out there to some kind of protests, I don’t know, I am in no way connected with these protests, thank God, and I cannot and will not call for anything, but I understand perfectly well that since Beletsky spoke about this, it means there is permission and instructions from the supervising party, and the supervising party may well be not even inside Ukraine, that is, it is a Western influence group, and since this is being done, it means that there are already some hesitations, so we have moved on to the foreign policy track, yes, the foreign policy aspect, is everything okay with Zelensky? Is everything really okay? Because yesterday’s conversation with Trump, yes, that he is just a good guy, but the Americans have an expression that a good guy is not a profession, yes, that is, a good guy is not a profession, and the fact that Trump met with him and started some kind of conversation, but at the same time there were no decisions in favor of Ukraine, all these requests from Zelensky for air defense, money there for joining NATO, the European Union, they were pushed to the back burner, that is, in fact, not a single decision was made, they simply met declaratively, shook hands, and at the same time, the issue of handing over bodies is being raised in the domestic political arena, yes, about burying these bodies, if the battalion commanders are already talking about this, yes, the heads of the battalions, well, it will be hard to accuse them of having ties with the Kremlin, with the FSB, especially such radical elements as Beletsky this means that the bell is already ringing in the West and this bell is most likely ringing for Zelensky because such bells already indicate that they are very unhappy with his position and the fact that he does not want to – uh, deepen the negotiation process with the Russian Federation, does not want to consider signing the memorandum that Russia handed over, I will remind you that literally yesterday or the day before yesterday Dmitry Peskov made a statement that Russia will not change the memorandum that it handed over to the Ukrainian authorities, this means that this is an unshakable issue, this is the only way and no other way, and Russia can be understood here, no matter who wants to like it, someone does not like it, but this is a fact, and the fact is a stubborn thing, the Russian Federation is gradually achieving the goals that it has planned for itself, and Ukraine, Ukraine, specifically with Zelensky, yes, it is giving up territory after territory, position after position, losing international support, Trump is not on the side, sanctions are not found, what is Trump talking about, where are the sanctions against the Russian Federation? He directly said: “But this will interfere with the agreements that we plan to sign with Russia, this will interfere our bilateral relations this will prevent us from resolving the Ukrainian issue if we are now imposing sanctions” that is, he clearly answered uh this is a question for Zelensky yes That is, he went again to demand sanctions against the Russian Federation he went to join NATO but this time even this question was not raised that Ukraine would join NATO and with the European Union well Orban said yes that here his 95% of Hungarians are against Ukraine joining the European Union we understand perfectly well that it does not depend on Orban if Orban had been given the order from above, for example, from Washington then 95% of Hungarians would be for Ukraine joining the European Union if we recall the topic of the European Union over the past 10 years after the Maidan then constantly either Hungarians or Slovakia or Poles or someone else well there will be those countries and peoples who resist the European Union says: “Listen well of course we are for we want Ukraine to join but here as if a unanimous decision should be made and it is not made the same story with NATO that is a loss on all fronts, I don’t understand, well, they obviously say black on white, they try to turn everything into a positive side for themselves, but I think that people see this, well, people, look, that is, again, what kind of people are we talking about? And about people who, well, with some kind of frenzy, well, just some kind of frenzied story with this busification in recent days, and what about the police, shopping mall workers, that is, people live in all this, that is, yes, there are children, women, all this, let’s say, and the geography is vast, Kiev, the West of the country, and well, and so on and so forth, and well, it is perceived as well as some kind of, as it should be, yes, in the Poltava region, for example, they reported that there is some kind of transport college there, that’s where they go if someone is over 25, well, we need to check, and what is it that you decided to study at college for your 25 years? No, no, you need to go to the army, and if there is some kind of story about Well, this is clear, everyone has exposed it, it’s a fake, don’t believe it, there is no Stefanishina here, she says: “Eh, and women need to think about it so that ban travel” and no of course don’t believe the lie but we see how what is called fake and lies after a certain period of time in different situations depending on the event or case or statement becomes the norm in principle and the discussion about let’s ban women from leaving let’s ban everyone from leaving let’s lower the mobilization age these are such trial balloons well here as an example or as confirmation of this statement that and these throws are going on yes and periodically this is coming out today Ignat that is from the very beginning on Monday night the hardest blow to Kiev and the hardest of course there is a video of a man from his balcony and what’s more there is also such a funny episode he says to his wife there: “Go and look” well conditionally Galya go and look see what is happening here although it is clear during such shelling it is generally better not to be near the windows and now even the two wall rule does not work bezuglyaya writes in general if you live in a panel house run to the basement hide in general run away as far as possible because that they are added up and panel houses are there how much 70,80 90% of the housing stock, and in the capital and everywhere in all other cities and Galya go look says and he filmed a video of how the air defense tangentially changed the trajectory of a missile that was flying into a house, nine people died there, well, nine, nine, I think, people were specifically there, the dead were being sorted out, people were being pulled out from under the rubble, today Ignat comes out and says: “Listen, yes, this is the work of the air defense, this is a shot down missile , and if a missile had hit this house with direct fire, the consequences would have been worse, and he makes this statement a few days later, when they had already survived, in general, they had survived Dnepr, yes. That is, it is terrible that there were, for example, 170 wounded and there were 21 people killed, this is really a catastrophe for a city like Dnepr, but these days are passing, everyone has already forgotten, one catastrophe interrupts another , and the truth is that then it just pops up by chance, but no one needs it anymore, everyone has already digested it and prepared for another tragedy, and this series of tragedies makes you think: “So what can a Ukrainian do in this information picture?” Therefore, when you say that people see, but they see and forget tomorrow because the day after tomorrow another new tragedy there how well this is an exclusively professional question how in this key to try to build some kind of well policy public relations because we have found ourselves in a completely new reality yeah good question you know I immediately about Ignat and about direct fire uh immediately remember master Margarita yes when Berlos said: “Well, if a brick doesn’t fall on my head” and Woland answers him that a brick doesn’t just fall on anyone’s head and specifically it certainly doesn’t threaten you air defense missiles don’t fly direct fire at houses that is direct fire of missiles are on objects yeah Well it’s inappropriate to waste such a resource as missiles yeah to destroy the housing stock that is not in one country in the world yeah well unless when carpet bombing is going on then it’s clear everything is erased yeah If there specifically in this area – uh district there are some fierce battles there a large group has settled in there equipment warehouse only in this case the missile is aimed at this house this house folds up like a house of cards and in this case yes, missiles do not fly deliberately at houses, well, there is no logical sense in this, therefore, what Ignat says is that if the missile had hit, if the air defense had shot down missiles not over the housing stock, not over residential buildings, but on approach to the city, then there would not have been such tragedies. I want to remind you that in the year twenty-three, probably, yes, in the year twenty-three, the pioneer in stories about the Ukrainian air defense was Alexey Arestovich, he was the first to say that everyone was surprised, after that, by the way, they began to persecute him, they put pressure on him little by little in public, yes, discrediting began. He was the first to say that in Dnepropetrovsk, yes, the strike was an air defense missile because it was always, well, it was always a Russian missile, Arestovich, the presidential adviser comes out and says: “So this is air defense,” and after that, gradually, people in Ukraine began to say: “Listen, maybe our air defense is not working very well, maybe it is not located there, maybe it is necessary to change the tactics, but then there will be no media picture,” again I return, I do not return, I move on to that what are we talking about then there will be nothing to show on the international stage if they shoot down cities on approach yes That is, if you do not put the same air defense systems in residential areas, which then they fly into, and all sorts of bloggers film it and then they are brought to court yes What did they leak there the coordinates of the air defense and that is why Russian missiles arrived yes They filmed it when the Russian missiles arrived uh In order for Russian missiles to fly into air defense systems, bloggers do not need to film it for this there are satellite navigation systems and other types of intelligence of the Russian Federation that is why there is a huge problem in this in residential areas air defense is placed then in the warehouses of universities they begin to assemble drones and they fly there like a pritula yes yesterday the guy again published a photo with drones somewhere at VDNKh well done just yes I have a feeling that he is either an employee of the special services or, moreover, not Ukrainian yes Either he is a complete idiot or a swindler who is trying to hide the loot and cause, so to speak, a strike on the systems that are assembled there well that’s okay such the question regarding Ukrainian society, how should they as people perceive all this, how should they build a political activity I believe that in Ukraine now there is no politics, there is an authoritarian system of governance in manual control, everything is held by Zelensky’s office, in this particular case, by Yermak, who is responsible for all areas in the state, they are now trying to say that there is some kind of responsibility for the government, but let’s remove Shmygal, we will not remove Shmygal, listen, all this is ZIS-chairmen pounds, they have nothing to do with the real governance of the state at this stage, at the moment, yes, de jure, they have many powers in their sphere, but de facto, Andrei Borisovich Yermak and his entourage are in charge of this, so whether Shmygal is there or someone else does not matter, the parliament is also in manual control, that is, it is impossible to build a policy now, some kind of protests, for example, yesterday’s or the day before yesterday’s protest on What is this And what was it Well, that is, no one understood, to be honest, this is a question, in fact, Alexander, because for me, too, the story is not completely clear, firstly, it looked like some kind of breakthrough of the blockade, but there was no, there was no, there was no protest, all this is prohibited, the war is going on, so no one is on it’s not possible to go out on the street if someone goes out they’ll immediately get the stigma of being a Kremlin agent yes but the organizers will go to jail they’ll disperse the people well in short it’s a clear story in general and then people gather mostly in military uniform they start protesting a little protesting against corruption calling on Donald Trump the president of Ukraine to restore order Donald Trump that is well a sovereign state protests in a sovereign independent state then they try to set up tents there well a classic genre Maidan tents why not and the police somehow disperse them and that’s when everything dies down then Beletsky speaks what we talked about and calls there on some date says: “I’m not calling but I know that people will come” well like so carefully remove responsibility I have two options the first option is of a conspiracy nature yes it’s not a fact that it’s true but it’s interesting it’s quite possible that this is the work of Zelensky himself in order to show before meetings with European colleagues that there is democracy in Ukraine remember the Soviet joke when it seems like Nixon with Brezhnev meets and says that in America we have democracy, anyone can go to the White House and say that Nixon is a fool, Brezhnev says: “So here, too, anyone can go to Red Square and say that Nixon is a fool” that’s the same story here, yeah Look, people can go out to protest against corruption, and all this is happening right with the criminal case that was announced against the fugitive and returnee Chernyshov, the Minister of Unification and the Deputy Prime Minister, who first fled and then returned, and then he immediately got a criminal case for 14 million hryvnia that he stole something there, that’s very beautifully connected, it’s quite possible that there is such an option and the second option, uh, these events, since people in military uniform come out, well, since in military uniform – this is an understandable story, it’s hard to call them agents of the Kremlin, but they will say: “We fought, but what kind of agents of the Kremlin are we, you are more agents than we are” that is, this is already such a controversy that can begin, yes, which in society will be perceived negatively, then the leaders of radical formations speak out, for example, there Beletsky says that there will be protests, but these people are on their own. Well, first of all, no rally is ever organized on its own, that is, it is not some kind of phenomenon, yes, self-organization of society is impossible. If someone doubts this, read Lenin, he described this brilliantly in his time. Parva said that any revolution, like a woman, requires money. Yes, I will add. And of course, it requires organization, finance, organization and political protection, preferably abroad at this stage. Yes, for now, this is not a revolution, it is not even a riot, it is a single action in the will of expression or some kind of protest by a part of society that can simply try to film, that is, the tryout is being conducted, they dispersed the cases, they did not start well. Now Beletsky said that they will come out again and gradually, for example, the United States of America can begin to put pressure on the Zelensky regime through, uh, right-wing ultra-right political formations, political forces that cannot be accused of being pro-Russian and of having connections there. with the Federal Security Service of Russia with the GRU and with some political structures of the Kremlin well you can’t blame Beletsky for this and you can’t blame other military men there and the Americans can do it that way yes yes I apologize well look at the times now you can blame anyone at all this too will be perceived not to say normally will be perceived listen well now find a photo and video uh Beletsky there some time ago Sdugin and there are some by the way yes or his address about the Slavic brotherhood that is there and it is immediately understood how to immediately say that he is a conspirator and so on and so forth that is if there was a person how to attract him to the Russian Federation that is yes it is generally easy from the point of view of this regime here is another point understand when people try well again the picturesqueness of this protest it is understandable and this is probably a symptom of something else it is like a vaccination well that is a vaccination what is it that you inject yourself with this disease so that the body can cope with it well in small doses this is some small dose uh so that well in fact, people did not stand up and start to sweep away the authorities, because recently what the police are doing and what they are doing to the shopping center owners is already clear, the relationship with them is there , and they fight and try, and in general, with the cops, everything is together, but now all this is being thrown over, this shadow of horror onto the police, and the police are a specific authority, if this is a shopping center owner, there is a discussion, is it military or not, this uniform or that uniform, and the military say: “Guys, don’t confuse us with the shopping center owners,” but you can’t confuse the police with anyone, the police are like that authority, a person on earth with authority, dissatisfaction with the authorities, with their actions, with their, well, let’s say, how they pack people, how they are there, and how they fight with women, all this, that is, this is a specific, clear face of the authorities , and the inoculation of protests here can be an exclusively internal political symptom, what do you think? Maybe as an option, I voiced two options, yes. The first is that this is a completely internal organization and they could well have organized this within the authorities, yes, this could indeed be so, but I I say that I do not exclude the possibility of external pressure by organizing local protests with the involvement of right-wing political forces as for the police, well, the police have not been with the people in Ukraine for a long time and I will tell you that since the nineties and this police reform that took place it has not really changed the attitude in society towards the police system itself yes And after the start of hostilities when the police allowed themselves to pull people out of cars to assist the TCC uh not to present any documents no articles of the Criminal Administrative Code to which they refer in certain actions not to let people to the western borders in Ukraine there in the Lviv region and in others I have many acquaintances who were traveling had the right to legally leave for example there well someone has four children yes he is traveling he has the right as a father of four children to leave the country he was stopped at checkpoints and they looked at his place of birth is Donetsk region they say: “Yeah, Donetsk, what are you going to run? Let’s go in the opposite direction” and they did not let them through, that is, such outrages I will not tell you how the police treated me yes these are already such personal moments but there are a lot of such outrages and a pond a dozen therefore the police have not been associated with protection within Ukrainian society for a long time they are associated with a threat people when they start having some problems they are afraid to call the police because they understand that the police will come and the problems will double or triple and they will put everyone on the money it turns out that you will still be guilty in the end yes and when it is necessary to call there were also many cases when people call and say: “Yes now they are beating and knocking down now there is a threat there are banging on the door” she says: “Well show them they killed yes That’s when when they kill then call well this is a common story therefore the police are Zelensky’s Cerberus that is they actually perform the function of maintaining the authoritarian regime that Vladimir Alexandrovich and Andrei Borisovich built and of course he relies on the law enforcement system that has long ceased to be a law enforcement system that does not protect rights in translation yes in human language what the police should do is the same the Security Service of Ukraine and other counterintelligence units of other special words do the same, that is, they simply cement the power of Zelensky and people people are needed so that as Pushkin once wrote yes they should be cut or sheared that is actually what the Zelensky regime is doing now it is sad and annoying but that is how it is and while this regime is in the government quarter in the country, nothing will change everything will only get worse except that the territory will change and decrease regarding the regime, it means that Socis published a very interesting rating, very interesting listen firstly everything is important like right in peacetime there are all those surveyed there are those who will go to the elections that is, we have not seen such a gradation even at KMIS lately because in general what I mean is the formulation yes formulations of peacetime in a working political system that is a classic just like you are transferred to pre-war political talk shows yes that is when there are those surveyed there are those who are ready to go to the elections in the near future and even here the same texts are written by sociologists KMIS those who follow have refused this or who comes across these opinion polls they noticed this difference 100% well but the results are still interesting almost 60% of Ukrainians believe that elections will need to be held in Ukraine if negotiations with Russia end with some kind of temporary cessation of hostilities this is a wake-up call this is a very important indicator 60% more than half in short people want change people want well the electoral process and the results then Zelensky has 20 almost 22% among all and 30 about 31 among those who have decided second place goes to Zaluzhny 19 27.7 that is by 2% – this is an error in general Zelensky and Zaluzhny go nose to nose Poroshenko has 4% there 6 with 5 well and then Razumkov and Budanov appear in the ratings they have about the same but in general 5% 3-5% also if we remove the error and this is often 2% but look here it is not even important probably the percentage is important the composition for some reason returned thanks to these ratings of socios to some kind of technological political technology feeding of the confrontation between Zelensky and Zaluzhny which everyone has already forgotten about, it was all debunked and thrown into the trash bin but no, they take out this crumpled piece of paper, unfold it and poke it in the Ukrainian’s face why is this being done Well, from the point of view of political technology, yes, it’s a beautiful situation in which you can grow, as it were, grow in the electoral sense a competitor who will then support, uh, the first candidate, that is, the president, yes, Zelensky, etc. Well, the president, I say so from old memory, so he is not the president for me, uh, from this point of view, this is a very logical and reasonable thing from the point of view of political technology because everyone understands perfectly well that Zaluzhny, yes, you said everything correctly, that is, he is not a political player, it is clear that if there were real elections and Zaluzhny went to the second round with Zelensky, he would simply beat Zelensky outright, moreover, not only Zaluzhny, any candidate, well, in addition to all sorts of prituls, and with them, any candidate who would go to the second round with Zelensky, he would beat Zelensky there, the situation is mirrored with the nineteenth year yes Why then everyone was afraid of the exit there of some pro-Russian conditionally yes candidate in the second round together with Poroshenko yes they measured then they understood that if a candidate emerges on whom the majority of the South-East relies well there for example Boyko if I’m not mistaken yes at that time they measured then Poroshenko would lose to him and Zelensky’s decision was very competent and balanced because the person was suitable in principle for two types well I do not divide I just refer yes to the theory and concept that Priyushchenko had built for two types of Ukraine not for the standard in the standard was then only Pyotr Alekseevich but for those types to which you and I belong for the center of Ukraine and for the south-eastern part well and actually speaking then everything everything was measured perfectly 74% of voters well not the population exactly voters voted the same story now Zelensky has an anti-rating well firstly well we cannot yes now refer to some sociological study that will be that could measure or publish especially publish ratings Vladimir Zelensky, well, it’s scary to do this at least because if the real picture is published, then this sociological agency will be accused of collaborating again with the Russian Federation and the head will go to the stage all the rest will be dispersed well in short the fate is not unenviable awaits the people who publish real ratings of Zelensky then people yes who if you poll in Ukraine so half of the people will be afraid to speak really their inner feelings well there is a certain number of the population yes there in the percentage error that to the end will believe and love Zelensky there are such people there are relatives and friends of the new caste that is getting rich on the war yes who have more money since the start of the war they will also support but I am sure it is no more than 10% all the rest are simply afraid afraid to say publicly: “We do not support the course of the state we do not support Zelensky” this does not mean that they support Russia no it means that they do not agree with the course that Zelensky is leading them and this informational breakthrough yes 60% about which you spoke is an indicator that 60% were allowed into the public space allowed there probably all 99 or 90% of times decided: “Well let’s show 60” I know how these sociological surveys are formed and then they measure on their knees Andrey Borisovich takes and corrects with a pen the numbers that he likes more, but in reality, of course, they look at how they answered with an error that people are afraid to say their real true attitude to the government, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, in my opinion, at the Council of Europe, yes, that is, women came out and shouted: “The best president,” that is, well, look, people who remember, they saw about the same thing about Poroshenko, who lost the elections, that is, thank you, thank you, to him, all this chanting, the best president, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, they show us these Ukrainians who, or Ukrainian women for the most part, who were allowed behind this ribbon, and on one side and on the other, who thanked, shouted, and then sang the anthem, and to the accompaniment of this a cappella singing, he climbed the stairs there, well, again, it seems to me that today Ermak will have Ermak and Katya, and our ears will burn, we remember Ermak again literally a couple of days ago, what he said Zelensky to some Western politician or Bill yes yes, he said that Zelensky is the best president in the entire history of Ukraine, there has never been a better one, there can’t be one, and he should run for a second term, Zelensky arrives and here is a support group, I just, well, for the spectators, can you imagine a situation in which people can go to the place where an international meeting is being held, where states are gathering, and go where the president is standing, and be a meter away from him, well, maybe some person of his own free will, well, I want to, well, I Lazarev, yes, decided to come to The Hague and say a couple of warm words to Zelensky, but they won’t let me within cannon shot of them, this needs to be coordinated, that is, this is an agreed-upon crowd that was brought there, they were given poems that they learned, they were told in what order what you will say, these people began and created this kind of performance, but it was a disgrace, it was just a complete disgrace, because, well, again, these are women who were brought from Kiev, who are there under fire with sky-high communal services without money without work that is, these are the women thanking the best president or those who were forced to leave Ukraine and it is not clear who is on welfare and who is picking strawberries is it they who thank there or is it the acting corpse of the burnt-out theater of the ninety-fifth quarter Most likely the third option because the first two options are unlikely to go to The Hague in the Netherlands at their own expense and thank Zelensky there well well a comical situation really that is why this is such a political technology it is very wild very stupid most likely designed even for one viewer for Vladimir Aleksandrovich Zelensky well imagine how many failures the guy has had lately that is, he does not achieve what he wants he understands that people do not support him that again he comes uh to Canada Trump did not wait for him he flies away he comes to The Hague questions about Ukraine’s accession to NATO to the European Union there is help money weapons well not even close to him Trump talks declaratively how are you You have a lot of problems I know well I’m like dad not daddy like daddy yes I will try to solve all these issues so you boy don’t be afraid and here they just bring it to him applause and he goes, happy, so look, the Ukrainians support me, they came, and you say something about me I put on a suit, and the Ukrainians came, well, everything is fine, as Ostap Ibrahimovic Bender once said, and for Alexander Koreika, with such happiness and freedom, and then there are also Ukrainians, and there are different ones, there are those who are so patriotic, and there are those who, well, let’s say the opposite, yes, abroad, they brag about their passports, Spanish, German, well, there are some American ones, and which ones they were able to get there over the years, well, either by the length of their stay, or by some other programs, well, in general, they show passports, this is also some kind of interesting trend, and regarding passports, today Vitkov made a very interesting statement, well, at least it was spread today, which means that Washington is counting on the situation around Iran contributing to the settlement of the conflict in Ukraine, and it turns out that this statement indirectly confirms that Russia played in this track, yes, of course, all the laurels went to Trump, Trump said that there is no need to help me, he repeats this is several times in public, that is, we talked with Putin, I told him: “Help me with Russia and not with Iran,” but many clearly understand that the Iran-Israel situation , Khamenei says: “Victory over the Zionist regime,” Netanyahu says: “We won together with the United States, in general, we bombed everything, now we are now switching to Gaza, Lebanon,” that is, we are now there, yes, that is, we won everything, all sides won, Trump is skimming off the foam of joy and happiness, but another important question arises, it turns out that, like, first, well, the order is first the Middle East, it turns out that Ukraine should be next, and Trump needs this good meeting with a nice guy, that is why it is needed so that it would be good and with a nice guy Zelensky, you indicated above that there are no specifics regarding air defense, some vague answers, well, very vague, well, really, that is, well, yes, yes, Zelensky, who writes on his site, says: “We must support the American military-industrial complex,” that is, we are who, that is, the Ukrainians must chip in so that the factories would work in America to develop air defense that is, well, there is some kind of confusion that is actually not amenable to analysis, but nevertheless, it is all broadcast on the air and so on, and is there and what do you think is there a connection between the Iranian-Israeli confrontation that has stunned the world in 12 days and also ended with completely understandable results, then the next stop is Ukraine and what to expect on the Ukrainian issue Are there any connections between the settlement models Well, because we understand that the actors are the same, there is a difference, of course, you and I talked in the previous or the broadcast before last about the fact that this conflict will not last long in Iran, I saw literally two root causes for the beginning, the first is the overthrow of the Ayatala regime, this is the first reason, the second reason, as it later became clear to me, is still Donald Trump’s peacekeeping laurels, most likely, one thing was planned at first, it didn’t work out, but they tried with all their might, Israel delivered very precise strikes on the location of the top leadership Ksira and the political leadership of the state destroyed some part of them, they couldn’t bring out all the protests, they couldn’t, Iran began to work very closely on the internal political opposition against agents of influence, even some employees of the Ukrainian special services, as we know, they took it from the Iranian press and even announced some terrible sentences to them, that is, they began to carry out a purge inside so that there would be no destabilization of the internal situation under this war , the regime survived, the Hamnei regime survived, and then, well, Trump needed to extract from this some other positive effects of this conflict, and the positive effect was a peacekeeping action, Trump strikes, no one knows about this, even in Trump’s entourage, everyone says that this is complete madness, what will this lead to, and then the strikes are struck, Trump, you say, these are the most terrible strikes since Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they can be compared with each other, well, what is Hiroshima and Nagasaki really proud of, yes, the Americans are an amazing nation, a state, by the way, they are proud of this, yes, there are the Germans behind Nazism they feel guilty there but the Americans are proud of Hiroshima and Nagasaki they are great they don’t hide anything Trump is the most sincere president and the ministry war if he leads at all he will be a handsome man yes he does everything right well this is in quotes understandable and here it turns out here he delivers the most terrible blows Iran says that now we will deliver the most terrible blows in response to Iran and will strike Qatar where the largest American military base is 10,000 people there are American troops in the Middle East the largest military base so we will strike there the truth is he deliberately called the Americans and said: “Guys we will strike there on this base specifically here so please take out all the equipment of all the people from there well God forbid we hit someone it will be somehow uncomfortable not good” the Iranians strike in the end it turns out no one even had a concussion and the Americans announce that everything the war is over great peace Trump proclaims that Israel and Iran have already agreed on a truce and tomorrow there will be peace it is clear here without the role of the Russian Federation as a mediator and perhaps even China I think it could not have been done Iran is an economically close partner with China, yes, it supplies oil there, if I’m not mistaken, one of the largest oil exporters to China, the Russian Federation has signed agreements with Iran on comprehensive cooperation except for the military sphere, yes, by the way, the Russian diplomatic agencies said this very beautifully: “Well, Iran is not asking for help, it’s not like Russia is not providing it, you will ask” and Iran, of course, is not asking because it understands that there are geopolitical agreements, no one is going to start a third world war there, I think that Russia explained: ” Please, hold on to power, yes, if you need it, of course, yes, for KhMNI, his entourage, political entourage, this will not go beyond some conditional blows” this was agreed upon with Trump, I have no doubt about it, again, because there is a very delicate point in the Middle East, the same Strait of Armour, these are serious economic clusters, this is not the Ukrainian crisis, it’s just that to us as Ukrainians, yes, Ukraine seems to be a serious war in the world, there is economic geography, well, this is not the Middle East, this is not the Persian Gulf, this is not oil-bearing state yes That is, this is not the geopolitical aspect I understand that you can refer to it there once Mackinder had such a scheme of world domination that whoever controls Eastern Europe is the Heartland, whoever is the Heartland is the world island, whoever is the world island is the world but since then the concept has changed a little and Ukraine is not the whole of Eastern Europe but nevertheless returning to the Ukrainian issue yes with Iran it seems to me a clear story Trump came out of there as a winner with again an agreement with the Iranian leadership who would I be now now in the comments it will start to rush that Lazarev is a Zionist Jew and so on they have already written that you see I allow myself not to support either side in this conflict why should I support someone I am not a Persian I am not a Jew I just watch from the side and when a situation occurs in which Iran is preparing inevitable retaliation yes the sword of the nemesis hangs there over the American military base but before that it calls the Americans that the Americans are withdrawing their troops well this is a very strange retaliation you know what it reminded me of V in the nineteenth year when General Qasem Soleimani was killed, a famous person, the most serious military leader in the Middle East, Trump T, under Trump, under Trump, by the Americans, the Americans killed him on the territory of Iraq with a missile at a car, then he was identified by his wrist with a watch, that is, his whole body was in smithereens, there was a mass funeral, mass protests, calls for jihad, that is, what needs to be answered to the Americans, they answered, they struck then for the first time in a long period of time at an American military base in Baghdad, again having previously reported that they would strike, and again, no one was hurt, strange strikes, really, how can you strike at a base, and not a single person was killed, only bricks are flying, and one soldier, it’s true, yes, he sinned, and one soldier received a concussion, well, after a retaliatory missile strike, this is serious damage to the American army, and after that, Donald Trump began to declare that this post is an outrageous case, an American military base was struck, and now how will we respond? How will we respond? But everyone was waiting for the war in the nineteenth year, we remember it very well I discussed the articles on the air, I wrote big ones, everyone was waiting for war and what happened. And I will remind the viewers what happened on the territory of Iran, a plane took off, if I am not mistaken, an MAO from Ukrainian Airlines, and some Iranian, either drunk or not in his right mind, fired a missile at it, after which Iran apologized and Ukraine took about 200 corpses, uh, Ukrainian citizens, who were then buried, well, it is true that there were Iranian students, there were a lot of bodies, and the whole world switched to this big tragedy and everyone forgot that Trump should answer. I do not want to enter into conspiracy theories, yes, I have no evidence, I am not an adherent of any conspiracies and plots, well, let the people answer for themselves, but how did it happen? When they strike the base, they warn that they will strike, when Trump should answer, the plane is shot down and everyone forgets that Trump should answer, and now Trump comes out and says that I am now a peacemaker all over the world, I have resolved all the conflicts in Kosovo, it turns out that he resolved the conflict, but I did not know about it. here he said that now we Yugoslavia on the territory of the former Yugoslavia in the Balkans have solved the issue here we have solved the Middle East issue and we will also solve the Ukrainian one but the Ukrainian ones they will not solve here is a slightly different story in order to solve the Ukrainian issue it is necessary to completely pressure Zelensky so that he accepts all the conditions of the Russian Federation Trump will not push the Russian Federation and now he cannot put pressure on the Russian Federation because he understands perfectly well that he needs to establish relations because they have moved on from Bryzinsky’s strategy yes encirclement of Russia along the perimeter with unfriendly states in order to not allow it to develop and put more pressure on it what was under the Democrats yes for example there with this war with other conflicts there with the Baltic countries and by the way well I mean there they began to join NATO uh and now Kisner Nixon’s strategy is reformatted this way when the main enemy is China but the Americans need to keep Russia in a neutral position and in order for Russia well that is because there will be a conflict in the Asia-Pacific region over time but it will be around Taiwan so that Russia does not assist China in every possible way and does not enter into one bloc, but the Americans will not be able to handle so many conflicts and such serious ones with opponents, this is objectively not an economic matter, they will not be able to handle them in a military sense, this is only well, this is what they say about the great US aircraft carrier fleet, yes, this is a serious weapon, very serious, but it was the most serious, there was a monopoly on projecting forces along the periphery about 10 years ago, but when new weapons systems appeared, not only Russia has them, China has them, even Iran has them, yes, there are hypersonic weapons and other things that are there, well, with great difficulty, to the point of being practically impossible to intercept, then aircraft carrier groups, well, they can be equal to scrap metal, for example, yes, this is a very dangerous story, the Americans understand this and they can handle several conflicts, especially in which, for example, China and the Russian Federation will be military-politically and economically linked, this is like death to them, therefore it is necessary to establish relations with Russia, how to establish them is clear after such rhetoric, after such positions, after so many sanctions it is impossible to do it abruptly it needs to be done gradually at least to get out of the Ukrainian crisis to leave to the mercy of fate please decide Zelensky you are with the British yes That’s where yours are everything yes closer to you it’s clearer well so let Starmer and the king there the third yes harness for you here with their seventy thousand invincible British army I am now saying invincible in quotation marks so you decide these issues let the French let the Germans the Poles be militant or the Balts are very scary let them help you there if you don’t want to sign and so that Trump is not accused of chickening out and backing out because he is well daddy he can’t back out well so he showed the whole world guys I decided in the Middle East believe me this conflict is much more serious than what is happening in Ukraine what is happening in Ukraine is so-so yes child’s play compared to what happened between Israel and Iran and what the consequences could be for the whole world and I decided it means I can resolve the conflict and I am a peacemaker they want to award him the Nobel Peace Prize now yes I am I wouldn’t be surprised if they give it it will be funny but I won’t be surprised why will they give it and why won’t they give it that’s why they won’t give it not after he went to the Hague and how everyone there was jumping in front of Trump I’m sure that they can give him two in general yes the level of servility is simply beyond the pale we saw this daddy this Ryuty who then tried to explain but Trump still has his own line regarding Ukraine the only thing I want in this context is for you to comment because it is really very important to think about where Erdogan is going and says that they talked with Trump if a meeting in Turkey is needed to decide on Ukraine well in Ankara or in Istanbul and he comes Putin comes and everything is decided it is noteworthy that in this there are simply two such very important points on the one hand office different there well I don’t want to express myself rudely let’s do it this way and the office information service says that this is look this is a continuation of the trend of the most laborious president Zelensky well when he wandered around there A he Ankara and said that oh yes that is me I am here what would you told Putin I’m here come that is that this is a continuation of this story but if you think about it and try to sort of figure it out Erdogan was the highlight of the program at this NATO summit Erdogan not Zelensky not Rutt who was there as if trying to show off it’s clear that there was a royal family who met yes that’s during well that’s because the hosts because they are there in the center these are protocol things but from the point of view of decisions about which by the way no one said anything absolutely that is we essentially know little about what Trump and Erdogan agreed on well cooperation it was cooperation NATO NATO there are weapons some weapons and that is everyone is being fed all everyone some old agenda these S400s they remember Russian that is some nonsense to be honest in the information sphere this means that they made some very serious and important decisions including possibly on the Middle East but we will see this on Earth in practice geopolitical and Erdogan is the highlight of the program he says Trump can come and Putin will come and they will solve the issue of Ukraine not a word about Zelensky not a word about Zelensky that is to say no one paid attention to it all like look there Trump is for us Erdogan is for us that’s all there applause for Zelensky but in fact Erdogan said well not that it’s fashionable there now of course there’s Yalta new Yalta well in fact yes and in a certain conspiracy that is to say superpowers came and decided something there Erdogan provided a platform and quietly took off his tops there got some cheap stuff but this is in fact an invitation from Putin and Trump to decide Zelensky’s fate yes and you know remember Dostoevsky yes crime punishment reflection Raskolnikov who am I talking about [ __ ] trembling or having the right So I would characterize this summit in The Hague as a division of Western policy into two parts into [ __ ] trembling creatures and having the right so among those who were in The Hague there were two people having the right and all the rest were trembling very beautifully in front of them especially Ryuta yes he was just licking boot to Trump I will not be ashamed not to sin with such a metaphor because it was so that’s why we perfectly see and understand who is a sovereign state who really not only makes decisions for their country but is the overseer in the region for example Erdogan is a very serious geopolitical player and remember this literally over the last 20 years that is before that Turkey well was not such a serious player in the region and now without Turkey not a single issue in the Middle East is resolved the Middle East region again we perfectly understand that now there is a ceasefire between Iran and Israel but no one wrote off Syria yes the Syrian issue no one wrote off the issue of the conflict there in Gaza the Palestinian issue and others that is there are a lot of hotbeds that can flare up and Israel announced that we will now move on to resolving the issue there with Hamas and with other structures that is without Erdogan here Trump I am sure discussed these points and oil policy and the influence on conflicts in the Middle East and including Ukraine you correctly noted Ukraine without Ukraine that is, they are deciding the fate of Ukraine without Ukraine Erdogan says: “Yes, I can organize a meeting between Putin and Trump and these people and I myself will participate and these people will solve the issue” that is, they will really solve another point that the meeting of Putin and Trump will be when all positions have already been agreed upon and now I am not talking about the positions between the Ukrainian negotiating group and the Russian one, this is another, this is another, another story of the position between the USA and Russia, because remember, Trump during the so- called twelve-day war took a break in diplomatic relations with Russia, that is, he publicly said that let’s slow down for now, I need to figure it out here, well, phone calls – this is clear, I mean meetings there with Itkof and with Vladimir Putin, Sergey Lavrov and vice versa, the plane was flying, the plane was flying from Russia, well, that’s how it is already, this is already after the end and now it is being resumed, that is, this negotiation process is being resumed and in this negotiation process I am sure that since the plane flew, Russia, through Peskov, stated that we will not change anything in the memorandum, which means that this topic has now been taken to Washington or it was brought even earlier, Washington and Trump, perhaps, a couple of affectionate words to Zelensky whispered about this issue that Russia will not change its position, so let’s think about how you will continue to work in these circumstances. I understand perfectly well how Zelensky will work in these circumstances. He will refuse. He will refuse because from a political point of view and from a physical point of view, this is like death to him because I will remind you that in the memorandum, Russia prescribed not only a neutral, non-aligned status, the return of the Russian language there as a language of regional communication, then the protection of the church, and there are so many questions there. If Zelensky accepts them, his ideological construct will completely collapse, and this and this we have not yet touched on the issues of territories that are also prescribed there, plus buffer zones. Well, I cannot imagine the circumstances under which Zelensky signs this and returns to Ukraine. He can sign this and never return to Ukraine again because his own people will sweep him away. And I am not talking about people now. People will accept. Most people will accept. I am sure that people really want peace. They are fine. If you explain to people that the war will continue, guys, taking into account the exhaustion. Russia can fight for a long time. Its military-industrial complex. Its money. resources and people how many times more you can’t even count yes there are 150 or 140 million in Russia and in Ukraine now somewhere around 20 million someone says 30 someone 20 it’s not clear yes Well that is, these are incomparable things taking into account the mobilization that is being carried out in Ukraine it is clear that people do not want to fight and in Russia they are recruiting contract soldiers there they are not catching anyone people go and fight themselves yes there they are conscripting someone on a contract and with and taking into account the advancement of troops and the depletion of resources in Ukraine a decrease in Western aid which is not being given now again you correctly noted somehow slippery Trump touched on that well yes there is air defense I understand you need it but we ourselves need it and also Israel needs it well how he immediately set priorities and in such a structure well people are looking at this I think they are beginning to see the light that the longer this conflict lasts the smaller Ukraine becomes and not only in the territorial sense but also in the sense of the number of the population someone is being killed someone is leaving someone is fleeing well the point is that Ukraine may not remain, so it is possible to fight to the end of the mice, people understand this, for people they want peace, a predictable situation, therefore, but there is a caste, there is a caste that is around Zelensky, which if the war ends, or they will go to jail because, well, the new government that they will not hold on to, power is built on war, and the new government will begin, uh, to conduct an investigation against them, and there are a lot of interesting moments that are emerging, a lot of which are now camouflaged, but they are not telling or showing, they are already emerging, and the most sacred and infallible thing, as they say, is who is there from Azov, someone from Azov, I think, reacted, yes, there is also a military rank from Azov, he says, so, put aside thieves’ concepts in the army and everything is so , well, it is clear, there is a long story there, there is one former Azovite who is now engaged in recruiting, he speaks on television and he, in general, he got it, they beat him up, and beat him right on the street near the entrance, and then it turned out and he himself told about it because it was hushed up, and from the point of view, well, again, so as not to shake things up the boat is the Azovites, that is, the active Azovites they beat up the Azovite of the past, that is, we see these showdowns and they come out there, the official says, so, put them aside, that’s enough of these, that is, thieves’ concepts, and again, people who think, they throw a bridge, now a series has passed there, some interesting story, too, also, also, an Azovite, imagine, a former one, and he is texting a girl in Telegram, and she writes to him: “Look, you see a yellow moped, open the lid, take the keys, I’m waiting, I’m all on fire, get up, but he apparently suspected something and this explosion occurred, a moped, well, nearby, that is, he was not injured, and before that, there was one with the dead one, they wounded one, the other was killed, and in general, they found a woman there, I think, yes, or a man, in general, it doesn’t matter, that is, they found a person who, again, is still registered according to the same template , which means that Russian special services are on Telegram channels for earnings, they plant explosives there, look, maybe this is it, yes, that is, no one has canceled this sabotage war and you really need to be vigilant, this is on on the territory of Russia it probably exists and on the territory of Ukraine but nobody connects the nature of these showdowns mopeds that explode that is the signature and Azovites with these internal post-war conflicts and when excuse me one of the commanders comes out into the public space and says that I will let you go enough of this slang enough of this thieving and in general he will also formulate that you are not like a patriot you are not a nationalist you are nobody if you solve these issues according to slang and that is we understand that all this is also this tangle it is connected and the fact that it is clear that sabotage and reconnaissance groups of the Russian GRU are working there yes or some services this is one story but another story is that inside the system itself there is very serious rot which is now crawling out with a stench and terrorist attacks explosions showdowns in the style of the nineties that is we understand society should well as if looking at this they just still probably do not realize it in the masses because every day there are tragedies strikes war but this is not the path to development at all this is the path to decline well yes this is the path to nowhere because we understand that after the end of hostilities there will be a lot of such groups, that is, all armed, all able to kill, all able to fight, uh, most of the leaders of these groups are accustomed to a very good life that they had not seen before the war, during the war they found that is, they bought themselves new Gelendvagens, Lenkruzers, and before that they almost traveled on bicycles, now they are serious guys, so they will want to prolong and continue this life, and what will they be able to do after the end of hostilities? There are only two ways, well, the third is to get a job, there will not be such an income, they do not know how to do business, I reject this question, there are two options left , the first is to create a PMC and go and send these people somewhere to hot spots where they will fight to earn the same money and also to terrorize some Doomed people in Africa, guarding diamond mines or gold mines there and little by little tearing them apart, or create organized criminal groups and engage in racketeering, engage in extortion of money, engage in extortion of real estate businesses apartments under the pretext that we were fighting and what were you doing Yes and what are you doing here in business You didn’t help the army well You didn’t help this well Yes that is, such a risk exists very strongly especially if Ukraine well that is, will be divided into several parts yes Well there are such theories this is not my theory I’m just voicing it I hear and one of these parts will either be neutral there or will remain with the vector that is now in Ukraine in such a scenario it is quite possible that these groups will raise their heads and this will be a very serious problem that can lead up to civil clashes up to a civil war that is, after big wars constantly well remember the history for example of the Russian Empire yes Well, a civil war began then the same gangs were there then they joined the revolution these gangs yes then they tried to come to power there then there was a purge but that’s another story yes the story is already so to speak a hundred years old but nevertheless there is a certain pattern and according to this pattern it does not change that if these people know how to fight know how to hold a weapon in their hands then upon returning home to a peaceful time or in conditionally peaceful times they will find an application for their profession there and believe me it will not be for the good of society and not for the good of people and the fact that they are speaking now and what kind of concepts do they have there As for me, these are complete outlaws, that is, they do not have any thieves’ concepts yes This is already such a rudiment and not all bandits live by these concepts for a very long time not all live and what can we say about all sorts of groups that imagined themselves to be kings and gods yes in the ideological field and in the field of having weapons and the right of the strong, therefore listen, in fact, if this is not regulated from the point of view of real neutrality there, conducting some kind of government there by agreement yes, neutralization of technologies in a good sense, neutralization, that is, involvement in some kind of good creative deeds, it can be forced, such involvement also happened here maybe there really is sending to PMCs whoever wants but you can’t give liberties, that is, at the end if it will be normal a state system in which all this will be agreed with geopolitical players and a model of Ukraine will be built not as an antithesis of someone or something yes It is impossible to exist as anti as anti-Russia as anti-West how well Ukraine cannot exist in this form that is it should be a truly neutral state in normal relations remember really now for example there are neighbors of Ukraine yes with whom there are good relations well to be honest such maybe also Moldova and well and yes there are sometimes embarrassments that’s all well that’s all very really well a sad story this is for people to think that the concept of anti-something leads to complete degradation of the system to disunity not to creative activity to destructive and to this if we also add the presence of paramilitary armed groups well then the state is simply finished Alexander Lazarev was my interlocutor today thank you for the time and thought thank you very much friends take care of yourselves to all the best and light see you definitely