Meeting held at the Council Offices, Kiln Road, Benfleet.
Meeting Starts at 7:00pm
Agenda
1. Apologies for absence
2. To Receive Declarations of Interest
3. Minutes of the Meeting held on 23 April 2025
4. Member Questions on Notice
5. Housing Improvement Programme Update
6. Costed Options Analysis for Proposed Containerisation of Kerbside Waste & Recycling Collection
7. Waste & Recycling Contractual Update of Recycling and Disposal Services
8. Refurbishment of Knightswick Shopping Centre, Canvey Island
9. Recreation Service New Logo and Rebranding
10. Corporate Performance Scorecard Quarter 4 2024/25
11. Corporate Performance Scorecard – Proposed Indicators 2025/26
12. Matters referred from Overview & Scrutiny Committee
(1) Environment Enforcement Policy
(2) Local Cycling and Walking Infrastructure Plan
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good evening members um members we’re not expecting a fire drill this evening so if the fire alarm goes off during the meeting please leave immediately by the nearest emergency exit gav outside Ranomde Hall um members um can you introduce yourself starting on the right hand side by councelor Warren Gibson thank you chair councelor Warren Gibson cabinet member for LGR and devolution thank you uh cab Steve Mountford cabinet member for resources thank you councelor Tim Copsy cabinet member for strategic planning thank you leader good evening all councelor Robis cabinet member for health well-being and housing good evening everyone councelor Barry Palmer cabinet member for economic growth and climate evening all councelor Tom Gibson cabinet member for special projects and assets uh good evening members uh councelor Michael Fuller cabinet member for environment good evening everyone uh it’s councelor Russ Savage i’m the cabinet member for people and community thank you members um item two item one apologies for absence i know it’s all here so I’ll take it there is no apologies um agenda item two declarations of interest members do you have any interest to declare there’s no interest to declare agenda item three is the minutes of the meeting held on the 23rd of April members is it okay I sign the minutes of the previous meeting thank you very much uh agenda item four members questions on notice members there are none agenda item five the housing improvement program update councelor Lilis can you please introduce the report thank you chair uh cabinet the purpose of this report is to provide you with the details of the current position relating to the housing improvement program this report highlights the progress made to date against the core housing consumer standards and the critical work being undertaken to achieve compliance with the big six compliance issues and dampened mold this report follows on from the report that I gave to cabinet on 20 November 2024 in which cabinet considered a report on the housing improvement program after the publication of a C3 regulatory judgment from the regulator of social housing hereafter the regulator on 13th September 2024 as you’ll be aware on the 12th of December 2024 the regulator published a second regulatory judgment which downgraded the council’s compliance with the consumer standards to C4 the council’s response to addressing the concerns of the regulator is the housing improvement program hereafter HIPP the HIPP is intended to provide the regulator with the assurance that the council has the ability to put things right and ensure that it does not happen again it is vital therefore that the council is clear about what went wrong and the lessons which it has learned consequently following further discussions with the regulator an agreed improvement plan was established which captured the specific consumer standards requirements and the necessary compliance activities that were necessary to meet regulatory standards and these are set out in appendix one at the cabinet meeting of 20 November 2024 uh the establishment of a housing improvement program board the hit board that I chair was agreed to provide clear member oversight of the improvements needed in the service on the discussions with the regulator and ensure that there was continual improvement in the housing service the initial terms of reference for the hitboard were agreed at that meeting since this time monthly meetings have been taking place with the regulator that I now attend to review progress and deal with any challenge from the regulator in respect of uh specific compliance matters as they arise the improvement plan continues to be reviewed and adjusted as further progress is made or additional matters have been identified to ensure that particularly the compliance agenda is rectified at pace members are also asked to note that a critical element of monitoring improvements has been the involvement of the hip bold finalization of the hip board’s terms of reference uh set out in appendix 2 core key performance indicators KPIs information and the relevant training of HIP board members has now been completed the work of the HIP board is supported by a representative of housing quality network HQN an independent organization which works in the social housing sector helping social landlords to achieve and maintain compliance with the consumer standards hqn performs a vital independent assurance role to help the HIPP board perform its role of overseeing the improvement plan and further work involving HQN is now planned to support the HIP board it is a requirement of the regulator that the council should involve its tenants in the influencing of housing policy and service improvements to assist the council in building this new working relationship the HIP has secured the tenant participation and advisory service TPAS to re-engineer the tenant involvement strategy to ensure that increased influence by tenants is achieved as one of the core elements of the HIPP tpas will also be supporting the hip board in involving tenants at the appropriate time in hip bold activities something that I look forward to very much and will assist in presenting the final re-engineering report for the hit board to consider in addition the association of retained council housing arch reached out to the council to offer advisory support this has led to the council which was already a member of arch being appointed to the arch board which provides members and officers with peer-to-peer support this support is crucial as part of the council’s learning identifying best practice ensuring experiences that mean that the council is better placed to deliver the improvements necessary myself and the director place of communities sit on the arch board and our next meeting is scheduled for Monday 30 June 2025 cabinet the following work has been completed or is currently still underway in respect of service improvement activity under repairs and maintenance following the expiry of the council’s contract with South Essex Homes on 31 March 2025 and in accordance with the decision of cabinet on 22nd January this year the council’s contract with South Essex Homes was brought to an end all management uh arrangements previously undertaken by South Essex Homes were successfully brought inhouse and have been operated by the council since 01 April this year the council now has full management responsibility and new staff have been brought in including an interim head of housing technical services to manage the new service as part of this and as a priority task a review of the housing maintenance day-to-day offer and the establishment of a new program of works and capital investment capacity has begun this has allowed a significant review of core contract work and the rationalization of other contracts with the support of MCP property services the council’s primary day-to-day responsive repairs and maintenance contractor working with MCP property services in a more intensive way has also allowed the council to establish a more focused and evidence-based set of key performance indicators and these are set out in appendix three information which has subsequently already begun to demonstrate signs of improvements regarding working in progress numbers being reduced and more positive feedback beginning to emerge from tenants as to the service they receive and I would like to thank Steve Kulk the interim head of housing technical services for the excellent work that he and his team have been carrying out and for the recent briefing that he gave to myself and to the vice chair of the hipboard councelor Kate not and a special word the thanks to to councelor Kate not our deputy mayor whose good council I value immensely under tenant health and safety at the heart of the regulator’s judgment was whether the council could evidence whether tenants and residents were safe the priority work stream for the housing improvement program has been therefore putting in place robust data improved contract management and greater checking and verification of work for gas electrical fire safety water lifts and obsesses and the preparation of new policies covering each a new policy for damp mold and condensation has also been drafted contract adjustments have increased activity around core compliance matters with full compliance now being achieved in respect of gas servicing CO2 monitoring and smoke detection although there are still some detectors requiring hardwiring fitments electrical installation condition reports should be 100% compliant by no later than August 2025 other elements for compliance in respect of obsctos and water management are being reviewed currently all fire risk assessment surveys FRAAS are under review with all reports having being completed by the end of May of this year a fire door replacement program and installation of fire alarms and improvement works following outputs of the fire risk assessment reports are being reviewed by a specialist advisor and mitigation measures being costed and planned for for all of the above where there are faults inconsistent records or missing certificates arrangements are now in place for immediate remediation all of the necessary compliance and improvement activity is being driven forward with the council’s customers as the primary concern safe homes and quality of service delivery must be key to the emerging objectives full tenant engagement is also the aim of the council so in the future tenants can properly influence future approaches and decisions around sustaining excellence in tenant health safety and well-being in occupying council homes a housing service review has also taken place with a new structure designed the new structure includes the required technical knowledge and expertise within the housing technical support team to ensure that sustainability of the future stable state is embedded within an effective housing service and under other activity work continues in respect of other key elements of service improvement and compliance activity in the following areas the procurement of a compliance and project management system the council established access to the Apex system used by South Essex Homes and following a review of that systems uh capability the full implementation of the Apex compliance and asset management system is now complete this is a medium-term solution pending the procurement of a new housing management system which is also under review review of current warden core systems in sheltered accommodation schemes including fire alarms and door entry systems with cost impacts of replacement is nearing completion review of sheltered housing facilities relating to furniture provision in communal areas decorations floor coverings white goods and laundry equipment is underway the full stock condition survey work started in May 2025 with completion expected in October 2025 and this will form the basis for the long-term planned and preventative maintenance program cabinet I am pleased to report that the key tenant satisfaction measures TSM survey results have today been submitted on time to the regulators portal continued review of policies procedures and strategies continues at pace and reports seeking the necessary approvals will be presented either through the delegated authorization process or through cabinet as required and I can tell members uh that I have had sight of a whole raft of new policies that are being uh presently drafted in addition to completing the TSM we have commissioned TPASS tenant engagement experts to co-create a new framework that clearly demonstrates how tenants will influence decisions and services tpass has undertaken a series of research discovery sessions with tenants and housing staff to find out about positive experiences of tenant influence and to gain insights the design phase to develop the uh final engagement framework report is now underway and the outputs of this work will be uh an informed engagement plan for the council to deliver improvement tenants engagement and participation this will enable tenants to have a much greater influence on the housing service and provide assurance that this meets uh this approach meets regulatory requirements and the first uh new tenants uh newsletter titled your h uh your housing was distributed in February 2025 and the second edition is the May edition these are attached as appendices four and five uh included in the latest edition is an estimated time frame for the schedule of big improvements that we are making to our housing service cabinet I am pleased to inform you that HQN gave an allmember training session on housing a week ago today 11th of June the session was very well attended and the feedback that I received on the night from our colleagues was extremely positive there were 23 members in attendance including myself and councelor Kate not the assistant director housing health and partnerships the director place and communities and the chief executive were also in attendance and helped to answer some of the questions raised by members i can further inform you that a housing improvement program update highlighting the progress made to date will be made to the overview and scrutiny committee on O2 July 2025 and finally I take this opportunity to thank the assistant director housing health and partnerships Damon Gella and all the HIP team headed by Chris Stratford for this report and for the hard work that is being put into our uh improving our housing service thank you Chair thank you Councelor Lilis that was a very very comprehensive report and it just highlights some of the problems we inherited in our housing department but I’m sure under your stewardship with all your officers we’ll make house the housing department something the tenants will be proud of so I thank you for all the hard work and I know you’re going to make sure that things are put right thank you very much thank you Chair members are there any questions okay members is that noted thank you members members agenda item um six this item of business relates to the costing options for the waste containers for curbside waste and recycling collection i would like to move a recommendation to defer this item so that more information can be brought back to the cabinet around the options for residual residual waste and regarding the proposed consultation of residual waste this is a complex issue and very important decision and we need to get it right for our residents do I have a second yeah I’ll second that thank you Councelor Gibson members is that agreed thank you very much agenda item seven waste and recycling contractual update on recycling and disposal services councelor Fuller yes thank you chairman thank you members um the purpose of this report of which you’ve had the full report in your pack um is to set out the contractual status of the waste collection and recycling service and recommended next steps uh I’m going to uh provide a summary of that report because the report itself is quite lengthy uh dealing with recycling uh the assistant director waste and recycling has undertaken a review of the contractual status of the services provided to the council as part of its waste collection and recycling service the review identified the council’s contract for its materials recycling facility has expired it’s actually expired in February 2019 uh this is a result of historical failure to deliver effective contract management which needs immediate remedial action to mitigate risks arriving from a lack of control over costs and potential risk of service failure there is therefore an immediate need to regularize the current contractual position with Biffer and by extension its subcontractor Westway waste away and also to procure a new MRF materials recycling facility uh contract for the future and it’s been necessary to renegotiate the waste away contract to ensure continuity of service in the absence of a contract and also noting the service was costing waste away more to deliver than it was recovering waste away requested an increase of about £74,000 perom based on current recycling tonnage levels officers also consulted with Biffer directly to verify the increase further due diligence was undertaken through a review of the cost of neighboring burough Roford which identified after the increase was applied castle point would incur a total expenditure peranom of £529,000 for recycling processing to regularize a contractual position for the immediate short term it is proposed that the council will make a direct award of contract to biffer to ensure continuity of service while at the same time the council runs a procurement process for a new MRF contract as it will take at least 12 months to procure a new contract plus a further 6 months of mobilization for a new contractor it is proposed that the contract should be for a period of 20 months there is no contract in place and therefore a new contract would need to be drafted biffer has proposed terms for the council’s consideration which will be negotiated terms of refu the operational process for refu disposal up to the 31st of March 2025 was that the council tipped refu at waste away who then transported it to Colchester landfill the council worked with waste away directly for this service on purchase order terms with the effect from the 1st of April 2025 essex County Council managed this relationship directly under contract with waste company in Dava the which is the ECC refuge contractor as a result of the ECC direction that residual waste will be taken to Baseldon rather than Colchester in 2024 2025 the council spent £312,000 on this service and these costs will cease in 2025 2026 the cost was covered by an income received under terms of the intra authority agreement the financial implications of this is if spending 202526 equals a prior year spend plus the additional 74,000 a total of 15 529,000 the eventual budget overspend will be 163,000 however given uncertainty in tonnages and monthly pricing it remains uncertain at this early stage of the year whether this overspend will materialize if as a year progresses it is clear an overspend is likely to materialize the country the council will need to determine how this can be funded the council’s financial regulations require other budgets to be reviewed first for forecast under spends which can be reallocated but any residual overspend can be met from the waste earmarked reserve which holds a balance of 210,000 excluding extended producer responsibility payments of 802,000 and is therefore a total balance of 1.012 million there are two options uh given in the report uh the first option is to agree the the recommendations as set out and the second option is to continue to operate the MRF service at risk outside of formal contractual terms thank you members thank you uh council full members are there any questions uh no questions um okay members there are four recommendations set out in paragraph 3.1 which I’ll move do I have a second yes thank you chair councelor Gibson is that agreed members thank you very much um agenda item eight the refurbishment of the Nights Shopping Center council Tom Gibson please introduce your item thank you leader um this is a report presented to cabinet in the hope that it will approve the proposed additional investment to carry out refurbishment of the Nights Shopping Center on Canvy Island in July 2023 the council approved a significant budget in order to refresh the internal part of the building including new floor finishes new pillers new ceiling treatment and new lighting since then the entrance doors have come to the end of their life and will be replaced as per the planning permission granted in December of the same year since this time the council’s appointed appointed architects have in line with the assistant director for estates developed a detailed design that will meet building regulations and regulatory compliance the appointed architects will also deliver the the detailed design in so far as technical specification design tender documentation and contract administration during the construction stages through to completion of the project this appointment was made within the original fee allocation approved by the council the architects continue to meet fortnightly with council officers and the center management to ensure a well planned approach to the project and to avoid disruption disruption to tra traders during the Christmas 2025 period the project is proposed to commence in February 2026 as the design process has progressed into more detail some further features have been identified within the scope of works it is now proposed that these be incorporated into the ongoing works rather than deferred to later in order to ensure that we are getting best value the best possible value for money for taxpayers the revised proposals include uh the sorry the revised proposals additional features include high level window replacement various fixtures and fittings wayinding branding signage CCTV and an allowance for out of hours working in order to minimize disruption to traders the proposed scheme was presented to the council’s asset review board on the 27th of January and 17th of February 2025 the proposed refurbishment scheme includes the replacement of flooring ceiling lighting covering the pillisters plus all of the improvements previously mentioned at additional expenditure of just over £800,000 further to that which was previously agreed by the council further to these improvements a new 5-year planned maintenance schedule will be prepared and implemented by the council’s managing agent practice based on a building condition survey commissioned and submitted to the council in January of this year these works will not affect the implementation of this planned maintenance program the necessary procurement regulations have been followed and a summary is available in section six of this report along with a timeline of procurement and completion with work starting in February and completing in June 2026 for the benefit of cabinet and other members exempt appendix A provides a summary of the proposed estimated costs as per the current stage pre-tender estimate these estimations have been provided by a quantity surveyor and based on current market pricing appendix B provides further detail on the proposed scheme from the council appointed architects this is of course a good news story and the investment and the investment in and re revitalization of a dearly valued and economically important commercial asset should be welcomed it’s also important to welcome uh to consider the wider national context of this proposal with local government we reorganization around the corner in a few years we may well find ourselves under a council over a new unitary council overseeing several uh potentially larger shopping centers by investing now we are future proofing this asset and increasing the likelihood that will it will remain within public hands to conclude this is a fantastic opportunity to breathe new life into a highly valued commercial asset at the heart of our community the recommendation to approve this allocation of funds is before you in the report and I will of course be happy to take any questions thank you okay councelor Gibson members are there any questions uh okay members there are three recommendations set out in paragraph 3.1 which I will move do I have a second thank you chair i’ll second that thanks Gibson is that agreed members agree and can I just say it’s it’s been a long journey on this so uh it’d be good now that we can see the works going uh and I think really looking at some of the photos of the from the architects I think the nights center will look absolutely superb when the works are finished next year so um we all look forward to that uh members so now I move on to agenda item nine um the recreation service new logo and rebranding councelor Dom Gibson over to you again thank you leader um this one is a report for cabinet to endorse and implement a new Castle Point active logo and branding to replace the um original and current Castle Point leisure logo uh this will encompass an expanded range of recreational services across leisure centers community halls and open space activities to better promote resident health and engagement the council is launching Castle Point Active a new unified brand in encompassing existing leisure centers and expanding recreational services branding to include community halls and open space activities supported by the strap line fitness leisure wellness together this rebrand will modernize our marketing and campaigns to showcase our full range of recreational and well-being offerings a key feature of the rebrand is the zone concept which will be implemented as on-site wayfinding an essential element in our marketing to highlight specific offerings such as swimming fitness events and well-being services this will allow us to utilize a far more versatile brand than the current Castle Point Leisure allows this strategic update addresses the limitations of the current logo designed before the digital era which no longer meets modern accessibility standards this common practice among among organizations reflects the imperative to deliver accessible communications in today’s evolving digital landscape the new logo will not see an overhaul of all current signage but rather an evolution evolutionary roll out as signage is naturally replaced a further rebranding exercise will follow to strategically roll out the branding more broadly with the aim of maximizing well-being opportunities as well as income generation to allow us to further enhance our active offering to our residents this offering represents an exciting augmentation of our health and wellbeing offering and I thank officers for all their work on this the recommendation is before you in the report and I will of course be happy to take any questions thank you thank you councelor Gibson and and I know um the brand branding and I know we’ve seen it and I think it’s very exciting it’s it’s about time we modernized and I think the branding and we’ve seen around the paddocks and and various other areas and I think the staff are all on board i know Shane they’re quite excited at the new the new branding that it makes the leisure centers look more modern and I think it’ll encourage people to actually be more active uh members I move the recommendation to endorse the use of roll out of the Newcastle point active logo for council’s recreation services set out in Apex 1 do I have a second yeah I’m happy to second that chair uh thank you councelor Gibson is that agreed members thank you very much agenda item 10 the corporate performance scorecard councelor Mford do you want to introduce your your item thank you chair okay uh corporate performance scorecard for Q4 2024 this is the last of the scorecard reports for the 2425 year it introduces a number of annual indicators so they are slightly longer than the reports previously performance against targets 10 of the 39 indicators are for information only 24 of the remaining 29 indicators are on or above target two of the remaining 29 indicators are near target and three of the remaining 29 indicators are below the performance is summarized in table section 5.5 with detail against all indicators reported in the appendix i think a good good performance worth a mention to call out here is avoid turnaround times this is the average time taken to relet councilowned housing it’s the time taken to measure from the end of the notice period from the outgoing tenant up until a new tenant has moved in performance has improved each quarter over 2425 from 35 days in Q1 down to 17.6 days in Q4 which is now better than the target of 20 days there are some areas which are below target relating to the proportion of people who feel safe after dark leisure satisfaction the net promoter score at running me swimming program um participants and the proportion of people participating in physical activity most of these items uh are under review and we are hoping that they will be improved by next quarter and we will provide more details following thank you chair thank you councelor man members are there any uh questions at all councelor Savage it’s more of an observation than a question i think myself and Steve have spoken in some detail and a lot of the uh the councilors around this chamber have spoken about the the lights going back on in the burough consultation that I think we’re looking forward to um will will certainly go a long way in in helping fix that target on the uh the people who who don’t feel safe after dark and I think we’re moving in the right direction it’s something that PIP have always wanted to uh to to push forward and um I think uh as an independent council we all agree that um you know that will go a long way in helping that issue all agreed there uh thank you is that noted members uh okay agenda item 11 the C corporate performance scorecard proposed indicators 2526 council Mford over to you again first of all thanks to Ben and the Thank you yeah thanks to Ben and Josh for the work that’s been done uh on the scorecard for the forthcoming years a lot of um hard work gone into uh ensuring that uh we’re looking at all the areas there so so thanks thanks to Ben and Josh um there’s a updating to the scorecard to reflect the administration’s goals and the new ambitions of the corporate plan for 25 to 28 the table in section 5.2 shows the spread of indicators across each of these goals and ambitions details included in the appendix to the report included rationale for inclusion or removal from the scorecard of the proposed changes the quarterly indicators 26 of the current indicators are to remain two of the current 25 indicators are to be removed from the scorecard and will continue to be monitored at service level six of the current indicators to be added for monitoring these are percentage increase decrease in reported crime antisocial behavior cases reported in housing gas safety certificates electrical safety certificates calls received through the contact center and the number of people seen at reception of the annual indicators 16 of the current indicators are to remain two are to be removed and 20 to be added for monitoring in 2526 and details are included in pages 19 to 24 of the report whilst in-ear changes to the suite of indicators has always been a feature of the scorecard this feature has not been used for future reports i propose that for operational performance indicators which are not on the scorecard that have two or more periods of decline in performance and been under target these indicators will be highlighted in next available quarterly corporate scorecard to cabinet to be informed as well as members this will allow greater visibility and scrutiny of areas of poor performance thank you chair thank you councelor Munford members any comments or questions no okay then members there are two recommendations set out in paragraph 3.1 which I’ll move do I have a second happy to second that chair uh thanks councelor Gibson uh is that agreed members thank you very much okay members um moving on matters referred from the overview and scrutiny committee i’d like to welcome council Watson the chairman of the overview and scrutiny committee members there are two items referred from overview and scrutiny first of all we have a report on the environment enforcement policy council Watson could you please introduce your item thank you Chair the environment enforcement policy contains the following principles to inform providing details on how to dispose of waste correctly how to advertise correctly and around around responsible dog ownership etc on education this includes plans for the council to undertake campaigns such as keep routin tidy and to provide information and engagement around the issues such as fly tipping hotspots and littering on enforcement the council’s enforcement the council’s environment team has powers sorry has powers to enforce against offenses using revalent legalization including issuing fixed penalty notices and community protection notices at the overview and scrutiny committee there were a lot of questions from members on the policy and we learned that CCTV body cameras and officer present would presence would be used in hotspot areas for fly tipping and littering and known hotspots will be monitored the highest reported offense in the borough is for fly tipping the intention is that the is that the process will be monitored in six months time to track effective effectiveness chair I commend the recommendation set out in paragraph 2.1 of the the report to cabinet thank you thank you Councelor Watson members are there any comments or questions no members I will move the recommendation to approve the environment enforcement policy June 25 set out in Apex B do I have a seconder uh I’ll second that chairman councelor Gibson thank you very much members is that agreed thank you very much and finally there’s a report from the cycling task and finish group council Watson can you please introduce your report thank you chair at the meeting of the overview and scrutiny committee held on the 4th of June we we received a report from the cycling task and finish group which was set up in November 2024 with the aim of increasing daily use in walking and cycling networks in Castle Punk community not including leisure cycling Essex County Council has produced a local cycling and walk walking infra infrastructure plan LCWIP the task and finish held three meetings one one of which included a presentation on the LCWIP the plan sets out two main prioritized routes route CP10 from Cami Town Center to Baseldon station route CP12 from Bentle Station to Lee Station and noted two other priority routes CP2 and CP7 the task and finish group raised concerns about dangerous roads and unsuitable infrastructure and noted that the LCWIP covered a proposal to repave ex existing infrastructure the next phase will include a detailed action plan from the county council members please note that the paragraph numbering has gone wrong in the report the paragraphs referenced in the recommendation should read paragraphs 4.16 and 4.18 chair I’d like to thank the task and finish group for all the hard work they done they really did go out there and do some very very hard work chair I commend the recommendation to approve the LCWIP subject to including the amendment set out in the paragraphs 4.16 and 4.18 of the report thank you Chair thank you Councelor Watson um members are there any questions or comments no members I move the recommendation to approve the local cycling and walking infrastructure plan for Castle Point subject to including the amendment set out in paragraph 4.1 4.16 and 4.18 of the APEC one do you have a second second that chairman thank you Councelor Gibson is that agreed members agreed agreed members um and before I close the meeting members um I would just like to say one thing about um council Watson and our scrutiny team because I remember um the peer review saying how can you scrutinize yourself well I can tell you they’re doing an amazing job at scrutin us and and the task and finish groups also are doing a fantastic job so you can take that back to all your scrutiny team that we think they’re doing a brilliant job and thank you very much and on that note members that concludes the formal business of the evening and I say good night thank you very much