Review – With its dirt jump-inspired geometry backed up by a solid spec choice, the Marin San Quentin promises to be a riot on the trails. How did it handle the wet trails of Squamish, BC?
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[Music] the Marin San Quentin which is one of the few mountain bikes with a name that rhymes is a non-nonsense alloy hard tail in recent years the brand has been putting out many an aggressive bike and this seems to fall in line with that albeit with no rear travel but is the Hardcore hard tail category still in rude health or does it risk isolating itself as a blast from the past with full 29in Wheels a spelt aluminum frame a 64° head angle and some pretty nice components the Marin sand Quenton is certainly equipped to handle the descents plus it has that little teeny tiny stem it’s so cute nice and little some highrise bars yeah um the San Quenton has very thin seat stays a lot less material than the sawaro um Marin builds the San Quenton as having dirt jumper inspired geometry and some of those characteristics do come across on trail we found it to be pretty fun on the desense the bike then has aggressive geometry and a build kit that aims to build upon that but how does this bike climb and does the slack out nature risk making it feel sluggish or dull the San Quenton may have some dirt jump Inspirations to it but it actually climbs really well it’s a hard tail so obviously very efficient but the position nice and comfortable upright kind of feels like your classic trail bike would yeah for sure I found the C Tu ble was pretty steep feeling on this bike and for me especially like put me in a pretty upright position um the head tube angle may look really slack on paper uh 64° is pretty slack for a modern hard tail but it’s important to remember that because there’s no rear suspension that head tube angle is just compressing as the fork goes down so it does feel fairly Nimble in tight climbing situations yeah we’ll get to it a little bit in the component section but this bike has those dual Maxis a tires which typically when they show up I’m kind of like that’s that’s a lot of Tire to be pedaling around especially on a hard tail as a rear tire the a guy tends to be pretty slow but on this it felt nice I give good traction they’re wide 2.5 in wide so it gives you a little bit more taking the edge off of things and uh yeah overall it’s a it just feels like a trail bike pretty Zippy like we went for a like a little power hour last night after work and I Rod the San Quenton and found that it was like motoring up Trail just fine like it does not feel like a draggy winch and plummet bike agile and Zippy on the climbs the climbing section on a hard Tail review was always going to be a little scant but what about the descending can this bike make good on its slacked out credentials and how much difference will there be to the other hard tails on our test one of which was notably quite harsh I’m always a little skeptical when the topic of compliance or Comfort comes into play on hard Tails um in my mind it’s the rear triangle is just a triangle and that’s a pretty stiff shape but there is something going on with the Marin that makes it a little bit more comfortable than some of the others on test I found it maybe it’s the super thin seat stays maybe just like the wall thickness of the tubing they’re using but it does take the edge off a little bit yeah I mean a night day difference between this bike and the Haro Saro did some back-to-back laps when I’d hop on this one just instantly comfortable felt like I was even able to generate more speed by pumping um just kind of felt like I didn’t have to adapt my riding style that much obviously you need to ride a hard tail a little bit different than a full suspension bike but there’s something about the Marin that lets you get away with some things that you might not think you could on a hard tail so there’s some sort of magic happening there it’s not actually magic but something is taking the edge of all those harsher hits yeah and I think to merin’s credit that dirt jumper inspiration you know may sound like marketing Hokum but I actually think there’s something to it um this bike was way easier to get off the ground than the Saro for instance or even the Cobain and it just it does pop off lips nicely it keeps things Lively um I kind of liked the fact that it’s not trying to be a full suspension Enduro bike it’s like its own little thing it’s a like a nice n plus1 bike in that way yeah I think it really does have that nice General all around trail bike feel you’re mentioning how easy it is to get off the ground and that kind of helps give it a smoother ride because if you’re in the air there’s no bumps so you get the really like chattery bits super easy to pop kind of lightly get through it um you flower terrain even the techy bits too the geometry kind of works out it’s got 40 mm Fork which feels really appropriate for this bike you it’s not one of those big long slack Over Fork things but it’s also not an XC bike so really nails that middle ground I think part of that more uh agile feel is just the higher bottom bracket it has um you know where the sawaro because it’s so low slung it can really just plow through stuff and stick to the ground I think the San Quenton bias is more towards yeah popping off stuff and staying lighter on the bike um but then you can kind of rely a bit on the super Ry tires to like lean into corners and make up for a little bit of the uh cornering geometry that’s the Saro might have over it when people think of hard tail they might think of value however when Brands think of ENT level bikes they can sometimes miss the mark when it comes to value and performance how does this bike Faire and does it have any tricks up its sleeve it might seem like a little thing and it kind of is but the grips on the San Quenton are great and then you know a lot of times a value bike comes and they put the cheapest grips on there super hard weird shape things but these I’d happily run this on any of my bikes so just another little thing you won’t have to swap out which is great if you’re on a budget one clearly budget item on the frame is the chain slap protection and to a luster degree the paint as well uh We’ve noticed that on our test bike we’ve already started getting some paint chips from the chain hitting these stays it does have like some little rubber chain slot protection but it’s quite minimal um and so I think just you over the regular use cycle of this bike you’re going to get some damage to that chain stay but just VIs ual um other component highlights on this bike we’ve got those slate the trp Slate brakes the Z2 fork and for both of those they’re like pretty ideal for this bike um we liked him on the Saro we like them here uh worth mentioning is the fact that this Z2 does not have clicks on the rebound compression uh it’s just missing for some reason but you can still make the adjustment you just kind of have to count rotations this bike then is more than just your average hard tail and it spec Falls in line with that but who’s it for I think the San Quenton would be a great bike for somebody that wants a hard tail as their only bike or for someone that wants a hard tail as their second bike like this is the handling of this bike in the overall feel I think is good enough to sway hardale Skeptics you if you haven’t ridden one in a while or kind of put them to the side as being too harsh and no fun and just unforgiving San Quenton is not any of those things so definitely just a great bike to for everyone to experience what makes the San quent in a great second bike as you mentioned is the fact that it doesn’t really feel like it’s trying to compete with your longer travel full suspension bike um while it can certainly handle all those same Trails it’s just a little more biased towards fun and lifely handling um it just I don’t know it feels like a good well-rounded mountain bike but one that is a bit less serious if you’re just getting into the sport and if this was your first mountain bike this would be a great place to start doesn’t beat you up you can gain the skills and just keep riding it for years and years to come so yeah definitely a good starting point as well hard Tales can be a great way for people to find a lot of the things they want in a package that costs less other times they can be a bike that is genuinely aggressive and built with the downhill and trail riding in mind that said the Marin Isn’t So biased in the descending that it undermines the charm and responsiveness of a hard tail the biggest Pro of the San quent is just how it rides it’s Nimble it’s fun it’s quick pumps well jumps well kind of everything you would hope your hard tail would do um the only real con we could come up with and this was like scratching our heads to find it was just the the pain quality in the chain slot protection uh I think it’s going to show some damage quicker than some of the other bikes on test and you know that’s something that you could add some quick chain State protection out of mastic tape to fix but it would be nicer to see something from Factory that’s a bit better the Marin San Quenton is a blend of many attributes to give a well-rounded bike with a modern interpretation of the hardcore hard tail Maxim thank you for watching the value bike field test be sure to subscribe to pink bike so you never miss our latest mountain biking videos
36 Comments
Great review format. Having Henry voice over with the outline of the review is brilliant 🤙
huge win for Marin, great company that has for years has provided great fun at a great value.
nothing about this is DJ geo lol. Its more enduro, all mountain – I know, I own both a la bomba and a rootdown but glad to hear it is designed with a higher bb to to be poppy, light and efficient, while supple. Kinda amazing for alu.
Looks like a great frame to build off of – maybe the most well rounded hardtail in the market?
In actuality, I wish this was more of a common option… as I don't know how many OEM bars, stems, grips, wheel sets, etc, get tossed out the minute the bike is purchased.
With this having such a steep seat tube angle (77) which is INSANE on a hardtail, I believe it's built to add 10->20MM more fork in the front, just need to be careful to find one that has good progression so you don't end up like a stapler. – Me? I'd go with a fox 36 or Lyrik, which isn't going to give you the arm pump/fatigue that a zeb/38 will.
Video is borderline unwatchable with the moustache guy doing that throat thing all along.
I bought a 2023 San Quentin 2 with 27.5 wheels for $1399 as my first real mtb after quick test rides of a few hardtail bikes so I can’t really compare it but it’s been bulletproof through some hard riding and shifting. One unusual thing I really like is how low it rides, makes me feel more comfortable since trail riding is new to me
Marin paint is always garbage
My 2021 Marin San Quentin 3 was, and is my first MTB, it's a fantastic way to get into the sport. It's gotten me through massive bike park jumps as well as rooty, rocky, technical trails. Definitely a perfect do it all bike. Nice to see how they've made some slight but meaningful adjustments on the new one, but I plan on riding mine till it breaks in half.
I just got an SQ3(27.5) as my first bike last week so the timing of this video was awesome for me, lol. Stoked to hear great things about it, makes me feel way happier about my decision. I did swap to a 50mm riser bar though, I felt a little too forward biased, grew up doing motocross so I think I’m used to a more upright position. Obviously this is personal preference but the bike feels really comfortable for me now.
I almost bought one when they were still 27.5 but I couldn't find the tan black colorway. I still keep my eye out for those frames.
San Quentin 1, 2 or 3, not everyone knows about bikes ?
"If you're in the air, there's no bumps" – Kaz, 2024
The biggest question is… What's under the black tape on Dario's laptop?
I absolutely love my San Quentin for all of these reasons, it’s the only bike I own and it’s great for jump lines/flow as well as making trail rides really fun and playful. My main complaint is the weight, which feels heavy for a hardtail. However I do have the previous model in the lower trim level (2), so component spec may play into the weight.
I bought one of these and replaced my full sus and DJ bike for a single bike quiver, I’m pretty sure I got the last XL frame in Canada, couldn’t get a built kit, and the build I did I’m so happy with, agree with the poor paint quality, and chainstay protection issues. But I also can say this thing rides amazingly, I’ve got a 160mm Lyrik on at the moment and it rides brilliantly on flow, tech, rides well in the pump truck and dirt jumps, super happy for it to be my only bike for the next phase of travel in my life 🤙🏼
Dumbest name for a mountain bike.
They went for a ride after work lol. Isn't riding part of work?
Got one last year in 27.5 wheels. Swapped the rear tyre to an Aggressor. Fun as
Henry, Dario, and Mike?? The monotone holy trinity 😍 😍 😍
Have the 27.5 version and threw a lyrik ultimate 160mm on it but took off the heavy assegi tires for some faster rolling tires and the bike is a blast. Super low seat tube lets you throw a 200mm dropper so you have a ton of room. This bike is just as fun as my dual suspension.
I have a really hard time watching any video with Dario in it. I feel like he would talk down to me if the coffee I was drinking wasn’t fair trade
I see a San Quentin 29 in a 2 and 3. Does anyone know if they have a 1 model coming out?
Wish the guy with the glasses would clear his damn throat.
Was it me or no mentioning of drivetrain ?
I think people “under-value” what a hardtail is capable of doing on aggressive trails. Especially when you put beefy tires that are 2.5 or 2.6 with Cushcore or some other insert to add compression and take off the edge.
Dario, breathe and use air to speak. Don't try to sound cool, you already have a great voice.
How does it handle compared to the 2022 San Quentin given the change in frame geometry?
Anyone know what back pack he has?
Left guy sounds like Miley Cyrus's meme for like 85% of the time.
i have the 2022 model with the 65 degree headtube. it's definitely a do it all bike. the frame compliant is pretty damn stiff imo, and not something you'd want ride for too long.
I have the 2023 27.5 version of this bike and never really liked it as it always felt so slow and harsh. So I put some faster rolling tires on it and got rid of the god awful Maxxis Assegai’s! Now I absolutely love the bike and I never ride my full suspension anymore lol!
I picked up the 2022 version in orange used. Hadn't ridden MTB since 2010 or so. This is such a fun bike, I have a blast every time I get out on it. Climbs fairly well, descents are a blast.
Why is the white colour version looks so different from the red ? It almost appears that the white has the least head angle than the red also, the top tube looks more straight downwards than the red .
great video thank u so much guys 🙏
I am 180 hieght what size should i get 27.5 or 29
I have a Marin Nail Trail 6 that I’m very happy with. It’s perfect for XC type the rides I do, which are generally quite sane compared to the stuff in this video. 68 degree head tube. It needs new tires and the 100mm Recon forks need to be rebuilt. Should I spend the money on a refresh? Or buy the San Quentin instead?
Keep your cadence up, mustache man. The vocal fry when you slow down is 😵🫠🫣
Is the SQ 3 good for urban like wheelies stairs and stuff?