Sit down put those ear buds in tune out the rest of the world because I drop some real truth bombs in this video about the history of mountain biking here in new england. Bound to upset a few people but at this point in my life the truth matters more than peoples feelings. Not from New England? Or the Northeast in General? Well tell me if the points brought up in this video are issues you’ve seen in your area. I don’t want to spoil the video too much by giving too much away here in the description but rest assured this video will most likely upset quite a few people. I touch on everything from the early days of trying to affect change with nemba, local conservation groups, the state… you name it we’ve been fighting with all of them over the years to even get where we are now in the sport of Mountain biking. We are slowly changing the narrative… let’s keep pushing forward! As always if you enjoy the content and want to help support the channel consider joining the patreon below. Thank you,
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If your still here… and your wondering about that thumbnail photo it’s pretty crazy actually. I was up for a solo adventure on one of my favorite local mountains and a couple ladies asked me to take some pictures of them hiking and ofcourse I did. Later on I get a message on instagram from that same person asking me if I wanted this picture she took of me. I had no idea how she knew who I was but it just goes to show you the real outdoor recreational community is awesome.
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all right so this video is going to offend people
it just it it just is some people are not going to want to hear what I have to say in this video
um and it’s going to rub some people the wrong way and some people are going to get really upset
probably have some hate down in the comments and uh but you know what i’m at the point in my
life where the truth matters more than people’s feelings it just does the title of my cover
page on my YouTube channel is Put the Mountain Back in Mountain Biking um I’ve been living in
New Hampshire for um my whole life i’m in my 40s my whole like you know it’s not a career
but it’s like my whole life living here i’ve always tried to influence mountain bike right and
I’ve been involved in like all kinds of different things tried to get involved uh worked really
hard to you know influence how we build trails and wanting progression in our sport and honestly
like for those of you that are watching this video um this is mostly geared towards New England like
the Northeast mountain bike community slash scene this isn’t like you know anything to do with like
countrywide but maybe you know what maybe what I have to say in this video resonates with where
you guys are at in your own you know struggle right and I’ve been speaking out about our types
of trails around here and at every avenue um there’s been roadblocks between you know trying
to get trails built at certain areas certain trail systems over the years um heavily involved
trying to be involved with Bear Brook um the early days of NEA who we’ve seen NEMA kind of turn 180
degrees these past couple years because people are just weaving in droves or head left in droves now
you’re they’re starting to kind of see the light on progression and the different style of trail
um cuz in New England we have the majority of our riding is you know flat rocky rudy techy um
style of crosscountry trails up down and around and and that is what you get at a thousand
different trail areas and you can have it to your heart’s content you know what I mean there’s
just a plethora of it and that’s what we have and that’s it literally um so I’m gonna probably drop
some truth bombs in this video about the mountain bike scene and a progression and where we’re at
and where we’re going and what we’re seeing and over the years what we’ve dealt with in these
different areas from you know up in from North Conway and the early development stages of our
of the trails up there that I was involved with um and the stuff around Bearbrook trying to build
those areas out and other areas and other towns where we’ve tried to influence stuff you know
pretty much without success in southern New Hampshire because you’ve got a certain demographic
of people that you know want things a certain way right so all these things that we’ve been dealing
with in the mountain bike industry and and the mountain bike scene in New England is you know
all these people are starving for this type of stuff to ride like Highland is so busy all the
time um all these downhill parks coming in and people want to ride like progressive style trails
it doesn’t have to be a flow trail but something with you know some flow and some direction
and you know like sustained downhills not up down and around and you know not like making
a downhill trail with a uphill section in it just because oh well it’s going to be a two-way
trail and people need to climb and they need a break from climbing so that they can you know so
it fits everybody and it’s like yeah but that’s not what that’s not what it’s about like you can’t
design every trail for everybody you know what I mean you have to design the trail that suits the
terrain that suits the the use of that trail and then go from there so the truth bomb I’m going to
drop here and some of you won’t be able to handle this want answers i think I’m entitled you want
answers i want the truth you can’t handle the truth is that it’s not about conservation it’s
not about you know moving dirt from one area to the other you’re going to disturb the soil
it’s and honestly it’s not about wildlife like it’s not it’s not about sustainability um every
single one of our white mountain trails is fall line trail it’s not about sustainability um you
know it all these places like for instance we have these trail organizations around here
that you know a certain conservation group that I won’t name by name but they’re um in the
lakes region um and they’re a conservation group um and they buy up plots of land to conserve and
that mountain bikers have had long access to and they say uh you know yeah we’re going to buy this
land and um you know mountain bikes were allowed here but now they’re not because we own the land
now even though mountain bikers have been had access to these trails forever we’re not going to
allow you to ride these anymore no bike’s allowed no now that we own it cuz it’s in conservation
now and we’re like questioning I questioned this when it happened to me cuz we somebody you know
went out there and they made Strava segments that said basically like no bikes allowed and all this
other stuff like what a passive aggressive thing to do as a as an organization a conservation
organization right and so I I questioned it you know what I I mean like all these things you
can just go along with it or you can question it and you can be like why why are you kicking
bikes out why why are you doing this and you know then then the argument comes in then their
argument comes in and it’s oh well conservation um you know and bikes they degrade the trail and
it’s 100% granite stone like there’s no dirt on this trail that you are closing down well you know
uh we don’t have anybody to uh maintain the trail for bikes and for the traffic it’s again it’s 100%
granite there’s not going to be any you know need to maintain much stuff but if we need to maintain
stuff we volunteer um how do we get involved how do we how do we help you maintain this trail
oh um yeah um the and you put the holes you shoot holes through their argument and you make
them justify why they do these things and you’ll come to this conclusion and this argument and
which is my main truth bomb to drop on you guys of the mountain bike scene in New England and
why we keep hitting these roadblocks for having accessible terrain for people and having it like
our mountain biking here is not accessible it’s not like people talk about equity and inclusion
and everything else and we do not include people because we exclude people from being able to
get into the sport by providing them terrain to ride at a reasonable rate right you can’t go
anywhere for a downhill trail in this state other than like one or two places the one right behind
me Arrowhead or way up in North Conway without buying a lift ticket how is that making mountain
biking or enduro riding or or downhill mountain biking or any of that or progressive style riding
accessible how does that make it accessible and I will tell you why it’s not and why we don’t have
that accessibility and those areas to ride yet and that truth is it’s all about
100% I believe in my mind maybe 99 control they want to control how other people
go about their lives how other people use land how other people enjoy the outdoors because it
doesn’t fit with how they enjoy the outdoors now you can with that truth you can just go
down in the comments let me know how you feel about that if it upsets you then maybe we
should have a conversation and maybe that maybe we should just talk about it right why
don’t we have these things in this state in New Hampshire we’re live free live free or die
in New Hampshire but yet we have no accessible progressive terrain or mountain bike trails
um provided for us or even the permission to put them in in areas with elevation or
anything like that we don’t have it so ask yourself like really just ask yourself
why don’t we have this type of terrain here i believe honestly and personally it’s been
this whole time about control because look at the place behind me this is Arrowhead
Recreational Area up in Claremont New Hampshire this is my sponsoring shop Wheelhouse
NH and they’ve done it they’ve done it like yeah they a lot of these places will tell you it’s
about liability it’s about safety it’s about uh soil degragation in the environment
the wildlife all these things that in the end well no I mean we can build sustainable
style trails but yet no mountain bike trail or hiking trail is truly sustainable
it’s always going to need maintenance right I see it every day I see trails in the
hiking in the you know white mountains that are supposedly sustainable trails and like they
need work that’s just the way it is but if you have and you build what people are interested in
you won’t even have to ask people to come out and help maintain it um but that’s my thing like the
safety safety i’ve always been in the industry of like you know in like high hazard environments
and this whole thing of safety is they’ll take a freedom away from you in the name of safety
but yet in my industry I have to learn how to work safely and I still have to perform the work
so the argument that it’s all about liability and stuff like that that is mute too because in New
Hampshire we have snowmobiles going down trails 45 50 miles an hour in the woods and everything else
and it’s it’s perfectly allowed because the state of New Hampshire has bylaws about recreational use
you open your land for recreational use as long as you don’t charge any money you’re covered by the
state’s insurance at least that’s how I used to know things were set up back when I was involved
in some clubs but you know places like this like Claremont New Hampshire have said “Yes yeah go
ahead and build it we’re not going to charge you but we’re gonna make this accessible.” And they’ve
given the opportunity for the wheelhouse and these boys with Arrowhead to build a community and for
all enduro riders you come here on a Thursday night the parking lot’s full because we’ve been
able they’ve been able to make here what people are looking for now here is like a little bit
different story right it’s not you know easy terrain it’s hard terrain it’s black diamond
terrain it’s expert level riding um it’s not really a beginner area i’ll tell you that right
out of the bat but just trying to work on other projects around the state to be able to get
blue square trails that have directional flow that will be accessible to the general public
without having to buy a lift ticket because you tell me in that in the comments how many places
can you go and maybe drive a car or or a shuttle or do whatever and you can climb up do a big
climb with a sustained descent and not have to buy a lift ticket i’ll listen to you and I’ll you
know I I know where they all are but in the end I believe it’s about control and we need to start
in my view calling these people out and telling them like it is you’re wrong we need this we need
to build this and until we start pushing back and telling people you know no we you need to make
this accessible to the general public and provide this type of riding because guess what like when
there’s a lot of rogue building going on around the state that’s when you know we’re not providing
that particular riding style to the general public because there’s a need for it but we’re not
seeing that need and we’re trying to control or they are trying to control the situation and
how we recreate and that in my view is the point of this video and let me know what you think down
in the comments you know it may be a very divisive subject but I feel like we’re never going to move
forward if we don’t talk about these things and that’s always been my goal is my son’s six now my
my other girls are much older teenagers and it’s always been a goal of mine for when my kids were
young to be able to go and take them on a Saturday and just drive up to the top of somewhere have
my wife you know drive us up she’s always happy to do so god bless her and enjoy like a nice it
doesn’t even have to be black down it could be a blue or green trail just be able to enjoy like
the downhill without having to go and spend $300 um for a lift ticket or something like that like
it just makes for an enjoyable day of people that want to recreate a certain way and as a family
or whatever like make it accessible like until we get and until we break down these arguments
and break down that it’s all about control in my in my view I don’t think we’re going to get past
and I don’t think we’re going to be able to get that accessible style of terrain and trail here
in New Hampshire we’re seeing it like Franklin they’re doing a great job nema is involved in
that one like NEA and Kyle with great gains and you know if you haven’t been there yet like it’s
very accessible it’s one of the few areas but yeah I can count on one hand in the entire state
of New Hampshire places that are doing that and uh we’re slowly changing the narrative but it’s
very slow and it’s taking a while it’s taken 20 years to get here and we’re still 20 years behind
I believe but let me know what you think down in the comments hit that like hit the subscribe
button um you know what’s instead of just like focusing on you know what people are doing wrong
like I think we just need to have the conversation moving forward like how do we move forward how
do we get these types of terrain for everybody and make mountain biking gravity mountain biking
accessible that’s it I think we just need to push back a little bit on the people that just want
to control how we recreate and uh and go from there Like if you like this video put a comment
down below let’s have a conversation let’s open it up let’s talk about this stuff and uh you
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whatever support local and let’s push this thing forward let’s push mountain biking in New
Hampshire to the next level all right peace out
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Come on man. Nice. Bring it. I live in Whately Mass. and man, this weather has blown big bags of 💩
Nemba can’t build trails worth a shit. Look at the Canadians. Those boys have it figured out
That sounds about right for most of the north east. It’s a constant struggle with government and trail associations to do anything. Great video.
Been riding at Bear Brook for 25+ years. Can count the number of new trails in that time on one hand. The whole Broken Boulder area all the way up through Lynx is eroded and barely maintained with nothing new at all. Great, unrealized terrain while leaving eroded, washed out double track.
I completely agree. I live in Arizona and there are so many good trails but there are no flow trails or progressive trails. The nearest bike park to me that I know of is 140 miles away and that’s not super realistic.
100% agree. You have a ton of pc shitbirds deciding what can and cant be done in the woods. Its about control. We see more of “their woods” in 3 hours than they see in a year, (or more) that simple. So awesome, “lets keep as many kids and families, actual stewards of said land out of the woods. Ive almost run over a few of those idiots hiking on non hiking trails, and my god do they get upset.
Maybe the bike parks wouldn’t like seeing downhill more accessible? Moving forward I’d recommend keeping people informed, organize, look for grants to do a trail, and contact local representatives. Think you are going to have to get political since you fighting conservation groups/resorts. I believe making MTB more accessible is something many would champion. It would get votes, and economically biking industry maybe willing to pitch in some dough. If people have free lifts I have to think that would increase sales.
I cant even imagine how pissed they would be if they knew I was riding w a firearm. OH MY GOD, how dare you…. Of also carry a phone, first aid kit, and a shitton of common sense as well.
The older generations are heavily involved in local and state government bodies and they’re allergic to changes and new things. Their truth is the only truth. They do not listen to young people. I lived in California and there is none of that push back. The older crowd in cali also grew up surfing, snowboarding and skiing so they’re not nearly as resistant. NH boomers are a different breed
Preach brother Preach, appreciate everything you do. Let's make change
All of us that follow you on YouTube, and IG or whatever, we all agree with you. It’s like that around me too. I travel to NH often, and agree that there’s a huge need that could not only benefit the mountain biking community, but help to drive the local economy. Unfortunately, too many people are too near sighted to see it through.
You do a great job of promoting mountain biking and showing what is possible. Liability will always be the shield that people hide behind when telling you no. One person gets hurt and the sue and we go back to ground zero aka road bikes.
I think this is very accurate. Coming from decades of short and ultra distance trail running to XC and enduro MTB racing over the past 5 years, I don't understand MTB trails in the northeast. To provide a bit of context, I grew up in the Adirondacks but have been in MA since 1998. I love Arrowhead and Monteau. Some additional thoughts that complement your own.
1. I love it when people go to exotic foreign spots to MTB and talk about how awesome the trails are when they are often hiking trials or cart paths.
2. I don't understand why it takes thousands of dollars, machines, and months and years to build a few miles of trails when you could do as good or better with a few people with rakes and hand saws in a few days.
3. In terms of trail damage, whether it is a running race with hundreds of runners or a XC mtb race with hundreds of riders and possibly thousands of laps, 95% of the time the trail looks better after the race than before.
4. Related to the prior 2 points, I think modern trail building often does more damage and requires more maintenance. Fall lines trails drain nicely…
5. The Lake Placid / Keene Valley and surrounding area has been doing a great job with MTB trails, which is surprising to me given that the area is very restrictive in terms of trail racing.
From central CT, I have this exact conversation on a regular basis with other MTBer’s, you nailed it