Four iconic notes: the opening of Beethoven’s Symphony No. 5 is one of the most recognizable motifs in music history. In 2010, Christian Thielemann conducted the “Fate Symphony” with the Vienna Philharmonic in the Wiener Musikverein.
00:00 Intro
00:50 I. Allegro con brio
08:31 II. Andante con moto
19:33 III. Allegro
25:09 IV. Allegro
“Da-da-da-daaa…” – with this legendary four-note motif, Beethoven’s Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Op. 67 – aka the Fate Symphony – carved its place in music history. The nickname originated from Beethoven’s secretary and biographer, Anton Schindler. When he asked about the meaning of the opening motif, Beethoven is said to have replied: “This is the sound of fate knocking at the door.” Although this story is disputed, what remains undeniable is that Beethoven’s Fifth, premiered on December 22, 1808, stands as one of most celebrated works in classical music.
Anton Schindler was a shady character. Though he longed to be a close friend and confidant of Beethoven, the composer often dismissed him. After Beethoven’s death, Schindler took many of his manuscripts and notebooks. In his biography, he’s believed to have fabricated quotes from these writings and to have interpreted – or even created – events to align with his own perspectives and feelings.
Beethoven left little about his inspiration for Symphony No. 5, as no authentic commentary from him on the work survives. The symphony was written at a time when Beethoven was already suffering from severe hearing loss and tinnitus. His condition began in 1798 and led to near-total deafness sixteen years later. Though his piano career faded, he was by then firmly established as a respected composer in Vienna.
The first sketches of Beethoven’s Fifth date back to 1803, a time when he was still captivated by the ideals of the French Revolution: liberty, equality, and fraternity. Rhythms and motifs from revolutionary music found their way into his work, and researchers suggest they likely inspired the symphony’s famous four-note opening. In France, Beethoven’s suspenseful Fifth, with its explosive finale in C major, isn’t called the Fate Symphony but the Chant de Victoire – a hymn to victory.
Around the same time, nature-loving Beethoven composed Symphony No. 6 – the Pastoral Symphony, or Recollections of Country Life. The contrasting themes of nature and peace, some scholars argue, suggest that the Fifth was not necessarily tied to a personal sense of fate. Yet, despite all the new research, the nickname Fate Symphony has endured.
In 2010/11, Christian Thielemann recorded all of Beethoven’s symphonies on DVD with the Vienna Philharmonic, including the Fifth. This recording was praised in the international press as a “new benchmark of Beethoven interpretation.”
Christian Thielemann is one of the most prominent conductors of our time. From 2015 to 2020, he was the Music Director of the Bayreuth Wagner Festival and held the position of Principal Conductor of the Staatskapelle Dresden from 2012 to 2024. Starting in the 2024/25 season, he took on the role of General Music Director of the Berlin State Opera, succeeding Daniel Barenboim. Thielemann is regarded as a leading conductor of both Wagner and Beethoven.
The Vienna Philharmonic also has a special connection to Beethoven. At its founding concert in March 1842, fifteen years after Beethoven’s death, the program featured Beethoven’s Seventh Symphony. Some of the orchestra members had also performed in the 1824 premiere of Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony.
In 1918, conductor Felix Weingartner directed the first of sixteen Beethoven cycles in the orchestra’s history at the Vienna Musikverein. The most recent cycle, led by Christian Thielemann, saw the orchestra perform Beethoven’s symphonies on tour from 2008 to 2013 in Vienna, Paris, Berlin, Tokyo, and Moscow.
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40 Comments
I share not joy with listening to this Symphony. The Joy is with the 9th at long last. The means to the Joy are not found in this one. This man is unable to desire the one that men desire. The one that is desired by men of all nations is unable to be what this is. The Crucifixion would be appropriate for the 2nd as to person, but you need to approach it faithfully through the 3rd Person, but many wouldn't view that as a heroic deed. The 1st Symphony is the one who knows more than the 2nd and the 3rd. Captain Picard is tortured by the 4th, just because. The difference between Mendelsohn's Italian Symphony and the Reformation Symphony starts on October 31, 1517. On June 30, 1530, the Augsburg Confession was read to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles III, who was also King of France at the time. The German Electoral Princes and Dukes chose him. Nothing new to these poses.
Ta-ta-ta-taaá!
Simplicity.
What a great finale funeral march, outstandingly brilliant and influential. It is my favorite movement of the symphony and one of my absolute favorites of the early Romantic period up there with Schubert's unfinished.
Tal vez el entero universo desaparezca algún día, pero esta música sobrevivirá. Porque es más grande que este universo u otros infinitos universos que a Dios le plazca crear. La seguiré escuchando después de mi muerte, abrazado a mi padre que me la hizo escuchar por primera vez hace mucho tiempo. Y seré feliz eternamente.
망했을때 나오는 노래
His excellency Ludwig van with his unrepeatable masterpiece for all time
BRAVO CHRISTIAN ! Génial et l'orchestre aussi ! ET la 5ème magnifique de Ludwig ! BEETHOVEN FOR EVER AND EVER ! Génie pour l'éternité ! des opus inoubliables! WUNDERBAR !
Beethoven definitivamente não era deste mundo!
Compositore Beethoven, lui fa entrare ascltatore spettatore, dentro la musica sinfonica
I love this performance!
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thank you. I just wish the basic sound was a bit louder.
Great performance of the Fifth. The only downside being the camera's director. He did no focus on some remarkable parts of the violins section. He was probably an amateur.
Para los esotéricas.
La quinta sinfonía de de beethoven es la expresión.
de su quinta iniciación de
Misterios mayores.
Wunderschön diese Musik. Das ist Balsam für die Seele. Und es ist wahre Kunst. Wundervoll! ❤❤❤
Herzensgrüße aus Norddeutschland
I think it's really GREAT that Youtube interrupts the music with commercials instead of showing them all at the beginning or not at all.
GENIAl ! !
Nikt nawet nie patrzy na tego dyrygenta,
I love the second movement. 🥰
너무나 아름답고 완벽합니다^^
🎉TUORT
VEINTEVEINTE😮
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
புத்தம் புது பூமி வேண்டும்
Perché questo tira e molla nel finale dell'ultimo movimento?
🙂🙂🙂🙂 its one of my favourite misic pieces. 😃😃😃😃😃
This has go to be one of THE BEST symphonies EVER written!! And beautifully rendered by an exceptional performance ! 👍👏👏👏👏✨✨💐
Das ist perfect
an interesting medical fact: they have found that Beethoven's Symphony No. 5 works to destroy cancer cells!!
This is one of my favourite music, it's masterpiece.
That was absolutely fabulous. We are lucky that we can see the people playing close up.
The orchestra must really appreciate a conductor whose downbeat lands somewhere around his knees half the time.
03/0-1/25😊 and 😂🎉 🦅✝️🇺🇸❤️😊 10:4& o😊
Die Lieblingssymphonie aller Feldherren. Wir wissen, dass z.B. Napoleon sie von allen Beethoven-Symphonien am meisten geschätzt hat. Das Strategische Moment ist im Kopfsatz unüberhörbar: Erst ein deutlicher, schicksalsschwangerer Aufruf in den Tutti-Schägen mit dem berühmten Klopf-Motiv (Beethoven selbst sagte angeblich darüber: 'So klopft das Schicksal an die Pforte'), aus dem das Hauptmotiv und auch das gesamte thematische Material der weiteren Sätze der Smphonie abgeleitet ist, wodurch die unübertroffene Gewschlossenheit des Werkes zustande kommt. Dieses Motiv bedeutet einen Weckruf und eine Initialzündung.
Im weiteren Verlauf des Satzes folgt ein entschlossenes, schnörkelloses, gemeinsames Voranschreiten aller Stimmen ohne Abwege oder Ornamente, alles zieht an einem Strang und marschiert geschlossen vorwärts. Der Rythmus und der Duktus ist fast die ganze Symphonie hindurch unbeirrt vorwärtsschreitend.
Dazwischen wird im Seitensatz mit dem in sich gekehrten zweiten Thema immer wieder innegehalten, der Weg wird überdacht und man besinnt sich kurz, bevor es weitergeht. Auch die knappe und prägnante Thematik wirkt militärisch, sie erinnert an die eindeutige Kommandosprache, die auf den Kern der Botschft beschränkt ist, damit keine Missverständnisse entstehen können. Nichts ist überflüssig und nichts lenkt ab, alles ist fokussiert und entschlossen.
Der zweite Satz ist ebenfalls heroisch im Ausdruck und zugleich trauernd, denn im Krieg gibt es auch Verluste.
Der dritte Satz wirkt dann teilweise bedrohlich, wenn der Erfolg bereits bestimmt ist, sieht es zwischenzeitlich immer auch mal weniger gut aus, aber die Siegesfanfaren des Finales fegen schließlich alle Zweifel und Widersprüche weg. Der Sieg ist da. Denn unmittelbar vor dem Sieg gibt es immer eine Phase der Zweifel und des Verzagens, die Zweifler und Defätisten werden laut und bekommen auch Gehör.
Die Musik kommt unmittelbar vor dem Einsetzen der Sigesfanfaren des Finales fast zum Stillstand und wird bis ins Pianissimo reduziert. Es wirkt verzagt und unsicher, die Streicher machen mehrere, erst zaghafte Anläufe, und schließlich setzen sie sich durch. Denn der Sieg war nicht mehr aufzuhalten, er muss kommen, daraufhin ist die ganze Symphonie angelegt, weswegen man auch von einer Finalsymphonie spricht.
Ein Lied der Erde, eine Menschheitssymphonie. Denn wer sich für den Triumph entschieden hat, der wird ihn erleben. Das ist unausweichlich und steht längst fest, wie wir alle wissen.
La más hermosa Sinfonía de Beethoven
Uno puede escuchar esta música siempre sin cansarse
Magica imponente fabulosa.llega al alma y la transforma.gracias por tanta grandeza
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great
Paz mental con esta música de maestros, que belleza
Genial Beethoven. De todas las versiones que he oído posiblemente esta sea la que más me ha gustado. Muchas gracias.