In this episode of the Lanterne Rouge Cycling Podcast Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen analyse the announced 2025 route of the Giro d’Italia.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:02:33 Overall overview
00:08:57 Main contenders
00:13:52 Stage-by-stage analyses
01:14:20 Overall thoughts and rating the route
47 Comments
Benji for GC
My question for you is: should Roglič actually go to the Giro, or leave it for Vlasov/Lipowitz and rather focus of a 5th Vuelta?
Worst route ever
I refuse to believe this is real. The ad will finish and it’ll just be more sand.
Looks like a boring(ish) first 2 weeks – then spicy 3rd week. Only 3 summit finishes too. Perhaps the organizers are afraid of May Italian unpredictable weather ?
39:48 @nairoingreen would be proud @patrickbroe
Roglic for his 7th Grand Tour win ❣💯
A lot of weird unpredictable stages.
🕷️🕷️🕷️🕷️
My prediction:
Yates
Yates
Roglic
Haha, some random german: stage "zwölf ist ein" sprintstage 😀👌
GC Girmay
I don’t think Bora should throw away Hindley’s GC but it’s not comparable to me that they both won one giro considering Roglic won his more recently and won the Vuelta last year …
Benji is right on the Dolomites. They are part of the Alps.
The Dolomites (Italian: Dolomiti [doloˈmiːti]),[1] also known as the Dolomite Mountains, Dolomite Alps or Dolomitic Alps, are a mountain range in northeastern Italy. They form part of the Southern Limestone Alps and extend from the River Adige in the west to the Piave Valley (Pieve di Cadore) in the east. The northern and southern borders are defined by the Puster Valley and the Sugana Valley
I would love to see Pithie on the Bora squad.
I think it would fit well protecting primoz and having lots of opportunities for himself.
I think Bora will send Roglic,Hindley,Martinez,Tratnik,Moscon,Aleotti,Pithie/one of Van Dijke twins ,Sobrerro
Random sprinter for opening stage : Ide Schelling
At stage 1, just let WVA attack into the decent
Hot take is that Hindley has to wait for Roglic on multiple climbs in the race
Benji is 100% a jet lag viewer, that’s where he got the gorizia fun fact from
Albania? I would have grave security concerns for the teams. Odd choice.
patrick is locked the fucked in, great analysis throughout and pitch on the fake strade
ps. rogla going to clean this giro
25:36 There is a roundabout corner with 450m to go and a sh*tload of road dividers on the final straight
Enjoy TDU
Benji, Giulianova is at sea level. It’s a nice beach town 🙂
Looking forward to saying hello at the TDU 👍🚴♂️🍻
Benji, Mortirolo is just a long rampa with a view only at the top – nothing special. It's nice if you're a spectator because riders' speed is low, that's about it. What you're actually looking for is Gavia
I know he probably isn't doing it, but would this have been a GT that Pidcock could have podiumed?
Pls crash the Nero Live Show while you’re there, troll them a bit with stupid questions
34:53 Van Gils was second on TdF 2023 stage 13 on the Grand Colombier from the brakeaway (Kwiatkoswki won), so he can do these longer climbs
If Carapaz, Landa, Bernal (he is going too!), Gaudu are at least half of ciclismo they are being given for, then this Giro could be very entertaining
disappointed with the lack of +2000M climb, I am aware they often encountering weather issues in the past editions but these legendary climbs is why I like the Giro.
This season is going to be amazing because 6 best cyclist will battle in diffrenet races a lot.Pogacar will battle Vingegaard in Criteriim du Dauphine,Tour de France and maybe Vuelta a Espana.Also tadej will battle Evenepoel at Criterium du Dauphine, Tour de France and Ardeens classics while only on Tour de France he will battle Roglic.When it comes to Vingeegard and Roglic they will battle at Volta ao Algarve and Volta Ciclista a Catalunya.Pogacar will batlle Van der Poel and Van Aert at Ronde van Vlaandren.On top of that you have 3 Grand Tours which are always show for themselfe.I can't wait till 2025 season kick on in Down Under.
Is Benji really this clueless or deliberately missleading? Not mentioning that Grappa and Mortirolo are both tackled form their worst sides, while hyping up the stages is extremely dishonest imo… Disappointed Patrik just kinda went with it.
Thats a weird statement from RCS about Tudor. Why wouldnt Tudor send both anyway? Its likely their only GT of the year right? They arent one of the guranteed pro teams (Israel and Lotto) So they wont be getting the Tour or Vuelta anyway…
I think you guys are way too optimistic about this route. All these downhill finishes are gonna be a snoozefest especially with Bora and Roglic controlling. The route is a disgrace.
stage 11 should be stage 20. If it rains, it will be madness.
54:46 Yes you are correct. The city is divided. Nova Gorica is the Slovenian side and Goricia is the Italian side. This happened after WW2 due to the division of territory between Italy and Yugoslavia.
You're flying your own bike to Oz from Europe? Not cheaper/easier/less hassle to just rent when there??
For those that aren't aware Albania runs on the criminal money fundled into the country, made by Albanians living mostly in Italy, Switzerland, England and Germany. Their recent tourism hype enables the white washing of money made pre-dominantly in prostitution, human trafficking, weapons and drugs. Both Europol&Interpol are extremely critical and keeping their eyes open. (Ask ChatGPT for example if you don't believe me)
I ask everyone who considers to visit that country, to keep that in mind. You're whitewashing blood money.
Nova Gorica is pronounced with a /ts/ sound rather than č, similar to ts in cats
If WvA can get close to his 2021 or 2022 TdF form he could legitimately fight for the win on 19/21 of these stages, that's insane. I know a lot of people aren't happy about this parcours, but I think that if teams really race it this could be the most entertaining Giro of the past few years. Not so much GC action, but the stage-hunting roster should be absolutely stacked.
Conclusion from the intro: There are no cities in Nothern Europe. 😛 Only villages.
If the Cortina d'Ampezzo stage would happen this year like then, it would not even start. Just like, yes you guys are too young, lucky bastards, the famous stage over the Gavia with Andy Hampsten, Eric Breukink and Johan Van der Velde. A stage that would never make it into the parcours today, which was also way harder then the Cortina stage.
It will be an epic race decided on the 18th stage with lots of great stages, but no top contenders fireworks until the very last mountain stage. And Simon Yates will finally win his Giro. Roglic second, Carapaz third. Wout van Aert will win 5 stages (at least).
Would love to see Philipsen at the Giro so you can have the battle of the lead outs VWA and MVP.
Plapp for the stage 2 ITT.