Some cyclists swear by them; Si hates them. Or at least, he thinks he does. But by trying every kind of bike-specific rear view mirror, will he find one that changes his mind?

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00:00 – Intro
01:34 – Why I’ve never felt the need for a mirror
03:16 – Some of the different mirrors on the market
04:40 – What’s it actually like?
06:56 – How are mirrors supposed to change my riding?
08:57 – Breaking down my experience
13:13 – Please share your opinions!

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49 Comments

  1. Rear-view mirrors on bikes: 'very cool and stealth' or not for you? We want to hear what you think! ๐Ÿชž๐Ÿ‘‡

  2. I wonder if the mirror that was pointing the wrong way was designed for mounting on the left vs. the right? In Seattle there are a lot of randonneurs who wear the eye glass mirror.

  3. I used to race and when I started off without a mirror on race day, felt entirely vulnerable and missed it like crazy for firsts few minutes. Quickly adjust though. I just think you are wrong, and I don't get a sore neck from looking back all the time. I entirely use it to get out of the way of cars as a curtesy process, perhaps your and other bike riders' riding style really is at the base of why there is so much car driver hatred of "arrogant cyclists' perception of how bike riders ride. 10k annual riding.

  4. Iโ€™m profoundly deaf and found the Cateye bar end mirror for dropped bars really helped prevent me being taken by surprise by vehicles coming up behind and passing close. Have now got a Garmin Varia and no longer use the mirror. As others have said, itโ€™s a game changer for some people.

  5. A stable helmet mounted rear view mirror is the single best cycling accessory I've ever used and has never impeded either my forward vision or my personal degree of cool (IMHO ๐Ÿค“). None of the trauma you experienced when using the mirror were ever part of my experience. Your "study" approach – saying that you aren't going to like it, mocking it while wearing two at the same time (etc.), and suggesting that it actually increased your hazard level came off as surprisingly childish. Even a microsecond of additional awareness can save a life.

  6. I'm 56 and I put a Third Eye mirror on the end of all my bikes. I find it useful to confirm what my ears are already hearing, and it helps discern whether I'm about to be passed by an economy car or a dump truck, and whether there are multiple cars coming. And bring 56, over the shoulder checks aren't nearly as easy as they used to be, especially near the end of the ride.

  7. After decades of riding without a mirror, I decided to go with the Spurcycle R-Series Mirror. At 35mm diameter, it's very stealth. Something so small certainly can make a big difference. It allows me to do an easy check before making a turn and see other cyclists in my draft.

  8. Si, You may have fundamentally got it wrong. A review mirror is not to check on every car that is coming up behind you, the distraction could have horrific consequences as you point out. But surely, the Highway Code for all drivers dictate the mantra Mirror – Signal – Manoeuvre ie. check behind you, indicate your intentions and make a safe manoeuvre. ย 

    The mirror is for checking what traffic is around you when you are about to make a manoeuvre such as a right hand turn. Yes, of course you can use a 'Head Check' to do this in the same way as Motorcyclists do. They check their mirrors and then do a head check in the blind spot. Even though we cyclists are the most vulnerable road users, the vehicle behind you has the responsibility to avoid you. Using your ears and road awareness is still an important aspect of cycling as it is with all other road users. ย 

    My complaint would be that bike mirrors are mostly poorly designed and lack vision. (No pun intended!)

  9. Mirrors work well on cars but, even then, there are blind spots.
    Mirrors work well on motorbikes for showing you how cool you look, and bits of what's going on behind you. There's just nowhere good to mount one so it shows behind you without it looking silly.
    On bikes? Maybe on a commuter bike, even then, hearing and a quick glance back are just as good. I mean, how many iconic cycling photos are there of pros glancing back to check on a rival? If we can't channel our inner pro when riding, what's the point? ๐Ÿ˜‚

    I also feel like the body language signal of the head turn to check on a car coming up behind you is helpful to the driver, it tells them you're aware of their presence, not just riding along "in their way", and helps establish communication of a sort. If you have to pull out to take the lane, move over to give them room to pass, or signal them to pass the communication is already open.

  10. I've been using a "third eye" eyeglass mirror for years and I can see that your helmet mirror has a ridiculously long stem on it that probably moves all over the place in your vision path. The mirror I use has a 7cm stem to put the 2.5cm flat mirror off to the front and side of your glasses. You can see traffic (or speeding delivery electric bikes) behind you with a glance to the side while you keep your eyes looking forward for opening car doors.

  11. Like others who've replied I don't use a mirror but I DO us a Garmin Varia rear tail light with a radar. The radar alerts me to approaching traffic approximately 140m behind me, long before I would ever hear or see them glancing over my shoulder. Not only does it inform me of approaching traffic but it will tell me how many vehicles are approaching. Getting a heads up with that much notice gives me the time to assess the road in front of me and to adjust my line if needed to avoid obstacles compared to relying on my hearing and glancing over my shoulder.

    It would have been interesting to see how you felt comparing the mirrors with other methods of detecting approaching traffic, like a rear facing radar.

  12. Don't fancy mirrors but I do always ride with a Garmin Varia radar unit. The best thing about that is that you can quickly see whether you are being approached by one, two, three, four or more cars. That's something you wouldn't pick up just through what you can hear.

  13. Use of a bar end mirror is especially useful on windy days when hearing an approaching vehicle difficult, especially e-cars, they are so quiet.

  14. Three common conditions in which either a mirror or a radar device have been of use to me (I don't own either one of them):
    1. Windy days, electric cars, and fading hearing: each of these makes listening for cars less helpful.
    2. Less busy roads, where car traffic is only occasional. If traffic is continuous, as it was on your route, there is no need to wonder whether or not a vehicle is approaching from behind. Here in suburban Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA, it can sometimes be helpful to know when an occasional car or farm implement is approaching.
    3. Riding with even one other person on less busy roads. We often ride two abreast most of the time, but will "single up" when a vehicle is approaching.

    I, too, have tried a mirror. I, too, hated it. I like it when my friend uses his radar-equipped Garmin.

  15. Excellent overview, Si. As a cycle commuter of some forty years, I have usually had a wing-mirror fitted to my handlebar – just like a car wing-mirror. Since I'm both a driver and a cyclist, I'm used to using the rear-view mirror as an aide to situational awareness. That's it. It's not about being able to avoid a rear-end collision, it's simply about feeding into my overall situational awareness, especially in an urban environment. I always use either the primary or secondary road position, and as I'm manoeuvring in traffic, the rear-view mirror allows me to judge well in advance whether I have a clearance behind be to manoeuvre into — simply glancing over my shoulder is often not enough for that type of scenario, and the rear-view mirror means that I don't have to do a full turn-around of my torso to get the information I need, maintaining better stability of the bike. Having said all that, I do agree with you about the helmet- or glasses-mounted mirrors: they cause a significant blind spot at all times, especially for circumstances like roundabouts or turning across oncoming traffic. Not to be recommended, and, for me, those in particular are a safety hazard! So, in summary, my rear-view mirror is about increasing my overall situational awareness, just like the rear view mirrors in a car.

  16. I had purchased a mirror and tried it for a month. I found myself staring at the mirror (drop bar mirror) far too much and ditched it. My buddy rides with a mirror, but it's not for me. I would prefer a varia or car back… Most of the cars I worry about are turbo diesel pickup trucks that I can easily hear well before the driver rolls coal on me.

  17. Maybe test this on a group ride? Iโ€™ve unintentionally dropped people because I assumed they were on my wheel when they werenโ€™t and I was head down riding hard.

    I donโ€™t use mirrors either but just a thought.

  18. Simon, I'm a huge GCN fan and have been a subscriber and viewer for many years . . . . . BUT , yes, you've fundamentally missed something! Sadly, it's probably because your perspective is so self-centred. It's not just about "what helps you". I regularly ride bikes (road, mountain, and "shopping hack"). I also ride a motorbike and drive a car. I wouldn't dream of riding my motorbike without mirrors AND turning my head in what is referred to as the "life-saver" procedure before deviating my line in either direction. AND, having used a handlebar mirror on my various bicycles for several years, I would not now dream of riding a bicycle without a handlebar mirror. Most of my road riding of bicycles is on local minor roads. These roads are twisty, with relatively few places for safe overtaking. As well as making me feel safer because I know what's behind me (and, yes, I use my ears as well), the mirrors also allow me to help cars and vans pass me where it is safe for them to do so. Almost without exception, drivers express their appreciation of this and this in turn helps to reduce any general feeling of antagonism between car drivers and cyclists. When I go out for a ride, I think "reservoirs". There is a "reservoir of good-will" between drivers and cyclists and a "reservoir of ill-will" between drivers and cyclists. If I can add to the former through my behaviour out on the road and avoid adding to the latter, hopefully this will both keep me safer on this and future rides and also help other cyclists the next time that driver comes up behind them. Sorry for the criticism at the beginning of this comment, but you did ask!!!

  19. I think the sun glas mirror is the best to make you cool! According to my wife, cycling kit never makes you look cool, but if it makes you trim your nose hair in time it might be a win!๐Ÿ˜‚

  20. After years of watching many GCN videos, this was the first one that was painful to watch. Simon, thanks for taking this subject on……but I disagree with almost everything you said. I'm 68 and I don't wear my sunglasses attached mirror due to restricted neck issues. I've worn it for years and consider it more vital to safety than my helmet (which has never hit the ground). Why would you not want to see what 's coming up behind you by simply moving your eyeball? And yes, even when they're coming fast I can tell whether they're going to be too close to me or not. I almost choked when you said that you'd prefer to not see them coming if you're going to get hit. Not getting hit is the objective. You asked for examples. Recently I was descending down a curving mountain road where nobody would even think of turning their head during such high speed turns. I saw a ways behind me a Porsche that was obviously faster than me in my mirror. I therefore had time to plan where he would pass me and I choose a tight left turn knowing that he'd probably be hugging the inside of the turn. (American roads on the right side.) I pulled to the edge and waved him on without needing to look back. He gave me plenty of room and honked and waved (convertible) a thank you to me. I knew I'd just improved cyclist/motorist relations. But there were two guys a ways in front of me with no mirrors. They were riding side by side descending the turns and had no idea he was coming. The driver was forced to slow to their speed and after about an entire minute of these guys not seeing him, he honked. I thought the driver had showed patience and given them plenty of time. They were startled at the honk and got mad at him, and it was returned in kind. All the good I did was wiped out by two guys who didn't have mirrors…………but at least they didn't look dorky.

  21. I use Garmin radar on all bikes, but mirrors only on my commuter. Mirrors are the best way to 'manage' the traffic behind me and help see what they are doing in urban situations without having to keep looking over my shoulder.

  22. Mirrors can be a distraction and a hazard when you take your eyes off the road. Garmin Varia is a safe alternative which lets you know when a car is approaching and their position.

  23. I ride a mix of road & bike trails. Typically I donโ€™t rely on mirrors while on the road. I do find them very helpful on trails keeping check on rear riding buddies and approaching cyclists to help me share lane space.

  24. I'm 68 and have always ridden with a small 1" diameter mirror attached to my glasses and find it indispensable. I also have a Varia radar unit so I'm always aware when a vehicle is about to overtake me and a quick mirror check tells me the size. As others have noted, it's great on a group ride to see when someone is getting dropped. I oftentimes end up speeding up to the lead rider(s) to tell them to allow down since they never even bother to even do a quick look over the should check!

  25. Fair comment. Given my grandsons were older than him I really didn't need him patronising me.Shoulder checks are a given & I even do them in my car & definitely on my motorbike.

  26. Like many comments already, I am older (mid 60's), and recently got back into cycling. Even on my old bike from the 1980's though I had a mirror on the end of my drop bars. I have many narrow roads on my routes with no shoulder, so I do keep an eye on what is coming behind me. When I see an oncoming car from the opposite direction I always check for someone coming up behind me, so I can avoid conflicts as best I can if the two cars and I should all pass at the same spot. Or, if there is debris in the shoulder/bike lane and I need to move into the traffic lane it helps to know if it is safe to move over. Most of the drivers in my area are courteous and give me room, but I like to know who is around and do my part to avoid conflicts.

  27. I'm another that loves the radar. Nothing helps with something hitting you, it's about making sure you don't move out into something else. So I don't care about every beep, but if I'm about to turn right (or even move a little further out from the side of the road to have more space on a descent) its good to know what I'm expecting to see with the over the shoulder check. Its also quite useful on a narrow lane if you've got something behind you and you're looking for the best place to let them past. What might be interesting is what a mirror combined with a radar might tell you. The radar (alongside what manoeuvrings you're doing) tells you when you might want to check what something coming up is doing (rather than checking all the time and getting distracted). I'also just never go on a dual carriageway, and also avoid the busier faster single lane roads as well as much as possible.

  28. My ears usually do the trick in letting me know; plus, if you turn your body and put your arm on the back of your saddle, it helps you keep your balance as you look back 180 degrees. I could never ride with earbuds in my ears and feel safe, but I have 2 Bluetooth speakers that work simultaneously, which are very loud and I can still hear cars coming up behind me.

  29. I would like to have a mirror on my bike, but they are fiddly, or like helmet ones, create a blind spot as well. Iโ€™ve tried radars and found they donโ€™t fully convey the information Iโ€™m looking for(mostly distracting and not useful on multi-lane roads). The main need of seeing behind me is when Iโ€™m riding on the shoulder with intermittent parked cars, bike lanes with parked cars, or when I need to move to the turn lane. I do rely on listening and looking behind me, but knowing when thereโ€™s a gap in traffic is harder to identify with looking behind me, which is where the mirror would be handy. I donโ€™t think just knowing thereโ€™s a car behind me is useful in worrying about if they donโ€™t see me and run me over, as I likely wouldnโ€™t react or couldnโ€™t react in a way to avoid it.

  30. let's say that when commuting, between a mirror and a helmet, I'd go from the mirror. In the city, in traffic, I find a mirror to be most helpful. Particularly in situations when you want to overcome something (a car, for instance).

    But not those silly helmet devices…. no, real, big(ish) mirror on handlebars. Like the round ones Si was having on his shifters.
    Aaaa… and only one of them is enough – the left one.

  31. Radar would be a lot more useful on that dual carriageway. Only use for a mirror I see(๐Ÿ˜‚) is if you are regularly turning right or a slower rider on a cycle path to see other cycles coming past.

  32. Garmin Varia is Kingโ€ฆ the Varia was key when I was living in quite suburban areas in Japan. This allowed me to ride in the middle of the road to avoid bad conditions on the shoulder. When alerted of approaching cars I would have time to find a safer spot of the shoulder to take or brace for riding in rough shoulder conditions to avoid approaching cars. However, I recently moved to Las Vegas and there are cars AWAYS/CONSTANTLY behind you and I have bicycle lines in the majority of places that I ride. I find the Varia less useful in heavy traffic and more convenient for the quieter roads where cars maybe more of a surprise.

  33. I have Varia radar and bar end mirrors on bikes. Find useful on club rides where maybe some members of group aren't so strong or confident ..you see see what they are doing or not. Varia great for saying there are vehicles there, mirror great to ID what….let's say some vehicle types/brands are more likely to make a less than cautious pass.

  34. I lost most of the sight in my right eye a couple of years ago, along with my confidence to ride. The Garmin Varia got me back on the bike and helped rebuild my confidence. It gives advance warning of approaching vehicles and affords me time to check properly behind. Wouldn't be without it.

  35. Not that I use a mirror, but it seems to me you're using them wrong. You don't need to see every car that is coming up behind you when you're using a mirror any more than when you're not. What you should be using the mirror for is when you need to go wide, swerve or change lanes and make a spot check to be sure the path is clear without turning your head. The mirror should be used to supplement your range of view not completely take over your attention to the rear. Having said that I have no plans to use a mirror myself.

  36. Great video. Rather than a mirror, get a Garmin Varia rtl 515. Super tear tail light with reliable radar notification provided to head unit when a car (or cars) are coming from behind. Eliminates the need for a mirror.

  37. Elderly driver hit me from the left back side on the roundabout
    It seems hit by his mirror in the UK it's
    Driver's side
    A lot of pain probably like in Abugrave prison in Iraq

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