We join Gerry Burr (RIP) at a superb Classic Motorcycles show – Gerry was a true enthusiast and a font of knowledge in the world of classic motorcycles.
Gerry’s passion for classic motorcycles shines through, and it’s an honor to celebrate his legacy by sharing his expertise with fellow enthusiasts. From iconic models to the intricacies of restoration, Gerry’s knowledge leaves an indelible mark on the world of classic bikes.
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[Music] n [Music] [Music] well it wasn’t all those many years ago go when man found that he could uh ride on two wheels and then he learned to put an engine in it and then motorcycling began and what a great sport it has been what a great essential Services it been and now with Classic Bikes what a great hobby it is fine examples of these bikes on every show field now definitely there’s one of my favorites there the old b31 BSA It’s a Wonderful movement a great camarade amongst the owners of bikes not only here on the shows but it always was back in the early days of motorcycl I hope it still exists now and if a motorcyclist had a problem on the side of the road another one comes along there was always that Brotherhood there we’ built some wonderful motorbikes in our time in this country ajs for example there great popular machine with the young Lads in the post war years this particular model just look at the clean lines there of the primary chain case with that extra little bit of uh finish around the outside and there a bike made by a firm that made some of the most attractive bikes ever Triumph that’s known as the bathtub model and you don’t have to be very bright to see why it was um Triumph’s attempt at streamlining back in the early 60s when um scooters were very popular and they still wanted to retain the image of the motorcycle and appeal to both sides so they brought this streamline bit on the back end and they were quite a nice bike to ride too another famous twin the BSA twin this is called unitary construction Twin uh where later on in years we did away with the old primary chain case and the separate gearbox it all went into one trying to clean up the lines I’m one of the old school I like to see all the old separate bits but still that’s a matter of choice dependent on the year we were born in built like a gun was the motto of the Royal Enfield you see here another Midlands firm never had much of a racing history but their competition and the trials uh Records are very high indeed a great bike and you can still buy a bike with Enfield on the side now uh built following the old Royal Enfield Bullet pattern a firm in India still built one called the Enfield so credit to the old firm hey beautifully polished full width drum brake on the front yes there’s a bike here for every sort of Enthusiast when you visit these shows and uh usually the Riders are hanging around there waiting to talk to you about them now uh a sister to the ajss that we spoke of later is matchless actually matchless bought out AJ Stevens uh many years before the war and built very similar bikes there were just subtle little changes and mechanically they’re basically the same but you still get some people would rather have an AJ than a matchless and vice versa another of our great twins was the Norton Commando here we see a nice 750 version built by Norton The Firm who I suppose showed us more about racing bikes than any other over their historic years a great firm indeed but where are they now now what have H what’s happened to our motorcycle industry it’s very sad really to think that so many great names have now gone down the drain and uh all’s left now is the name Norton with a very big owner’s Club the other badge on the right there that’s the bridge end motorcycle club the famous name of BSA Birmingham Small Arms they buildt a bike for everybody everything from the small Two Strokes your wellknown bantom up to the big Twins and triples for the competition man the gold star was Second To [Music] None that’s the 650 lightning of course the 650 they built was the ever faithful gold flash back in the 50s Triumph of course as we see here they were The Originators of the parallel twin Ed Turner he designed it back in the 30s and after the war these bikes got so popular that all the other leading makes Norton Ariel Triumph BSA they were all there producing the parallel twins first of all 500s then he went up to 650 750 and so on another famous name that was great in the competition World dur in the 60s was gaves they used the mainly villar’s engines but the frame design was somewhat different to most it had the different linkage on the front forks and uh made it very easy bike to ride and handle much better handling than the old uh conventional frames and GRE has certainly got a high competition record but villar’s engines well they were a firm that built two-stroke engines in thousands all through the 30s and 40s and lots of firms just built frames and cycle parts and bought in Villers engines to put in their bikes once it’s firm of course excels here although they did make full bikes back early on in their days but the postwar saw them make little lightweight go to work bikes such as this cheap running probably just a little two-p speeder with a small small two-stroke engine Simplicity and reliability by Villers now one of the bigger Royal enfields beautifully made bikes and uh Royal Enfield managed to produce an engine with a good bottom end power to it they’re very popular among the side caran this is probably why they never did a lot of high-speed racing um it wasn’t always that important although it was a good sales factor to have a high top speed but everything you do over the 1809 miles an hour you sort of lose a bit of power down the bottom end uh roll infields always seem to hit a right side of this and produced a darn good gutsy bike not standardly fitted with stereo though and what’s more well known than the old Norton Singler overhead either the model 18 or the es2 that’s the old model 18 pre-war with the gerter forks look what a great machine that old engine characteristic went on for many years with a 79 B 100 stroke and it just didn’t change and they kept improving little bits here and there and that primary chain case known as the Norton oil bath I don’t know why you used to get a bath of oil out of it every time you put one in it I think they had to be properly put on to be oil just one little extra pinch of the outer nut and you’d had it Francis Barlett another of those firms that built um mainly frames and put the Villers engines in a famous firm from many years again postwar years producing Bikes For the Working Man a cheap economic way of going to and from work cuz not many people could afford cars in those days might be utility but certainly good looking and there’s another example here little James they made the cadet and the captain and the Commodore depending on the size of the engine known of course here as you see the famous James very old [Music] firm one of my favorites that though the obsa b31 a 350 overhead vve engine reliable here they are coming going to have a ride around the ring now this is what we like to see and hear and smell them hear the different sounds the parallel twins that we have here here the singles the two strokes four strokes sometimes four cylinder the commentator here stopping to have a chat with each one in turn is a bit difficult to arrange a motorcycle parade because if they wait outside to come in one at a time with the old type clutches you had to hold it on the clutch out there and clutches used to get hot and if you let them sck over too long even out of gear the old air code engines tend to warm up a little bit it’s rather difficult to arrange these motorcycle if you’ve got a hell of a lot of them comes the commander good Road H holding bike Norton was always noted for its road holding look at that little one in the midle of course is front wheel drive maximum maneuverability just more of BSA one of the last of the Phantoms Bantam started his life back about 1949 and went on for many many years this one decided to bring a passenger around with him probably to enjoy the stereo in the Box on the back that’s letter b31 That’s The Swinging arm model by that time they got a little bit heavy for a 350 although they did put a 500 engine in as well the b33 and very manageable different [Music] CH two speed just a little lever on the handlebars to change GE ajs competition model very popular back in their days I think there’s man name of Hugh viny used to ride for ajs Back In Those Days International six- day trials and a bike like this nowadays comb it’s very collectible and worth a bit of money of course as some go out others come and join us everyone anxiously looking to see who’s coming in next they all love to chat about each other’s bikes it’s a great following and a great fraternity as I said earlier they they all get on well together I love the motorcycle sections n of our competition bikes always collected and some of the little ones not always willing to go after give it a bit of help with a foot they all have their individual Knack on bites you don’t have self starters on these own thing if you set them up right you can usually rely on a first kick start but if you get it wrong you could have trouble for quite while of our BSA twins E10 matchless twin and the Norton twin we seem to be doing well for twins on our parade today a demonstration of the car very much motorcycle power unit in there driving the front wheel that gives you uh C on the VA so front wheeel drive same as you would find with [Music] uhal ah they aren’t all British are they we’ve got our American Big Brother here now the Hardley Davids I suppose one of the most famous Pikes in the world now I don’t particularly want one but they’re a different sort of bike you you don’t WR on them you more or less get in them a huge comfortable machine there v twin long distance cruising of course designed for a different job to our bikes designed for those big American highways where you had mile on Mile Road so you just sit back there and wind it on and cruise along happen but when it come come to going across country or doing anything a little bit off the Beaten Track you can’t whack the British bikes but certainly um the American Harley Davis their marketing now is I suppose the greatest in the world not little bik their Sun uh they too produce frames and stick to villar’s engines in just another of the many postwar firms who did just this because motoring became essential The Lads come out of the army fed up with going back to push bikes again couldn’t afford a car they all looking for little bikes and uh people like Sonic celsia James Etc did well and here you see a photograph of how it was found so someone’s done a lot of work down in the garden shed to get it back to its original condition another old Birmingham firm that started back before the [Music] 1930s what a satisfying thing to found that W and then brought it back to this condition and look at this condition another our great TRS these were so popular for export too and a lot of them have come back to this country again the Americans loved them they certainly out formed that the American bikes they are lighter to handle and much quicker how’s that for restoration better than you I would say the name Bonville of course another good advertising gesture toward selling them in America love you job see you later yes trium certainly made the most beautiful of all bikes they um PID special attention to the uh mud guards and frame and streamlining of the whole thing and I think their design was by far the prettiest of it all there’s another the bathtub BT it’s a different color this the maroon one is the 500 twin whereas the early one was we saw was the 350 they also buil a 650 the Thunder bir always have a great following triumphs still being produced today which is what we can say about none of the others very sad many stories have been told as the reason of the demise of the British motorcycle no one will claim responsibility for it we certainly lost out being the prime producer tell me what it’s all about that’s a heavy H is field just below the show that’s the Royal Enfield Bullet and if you saw the Enfield Bullet now produced in India you would see a great similarity now we spoke about a fancis Barnett teally known as funny Barnett this is about a 1936 or S Francis Barnett it was fully enclosed known as the cruiser and a lot of forward thinking it’s a Pity our motorcycle industry after the war weren’t as Forward Thinking as some of the firms were before the war have they done that and had we accepted it then we’d have still had a lot of bikes on the road today another of the old go to work bikes produced just after the war by BSA that’s a C11 it’s a 250 overhead Volve only a three-speed gear box speedometer set in the top of the tank but a a cheap bike less than100 and uh quite reliable coil ignition too which was uh a good step forward in the post-war [Music] [Applause] years little bit of renovation needed here but somehow sometimes I think it’s nice to see the old original look now this is something that was popular just just before the war and after the alter cycle long before they were called beds built by many firms this is the raino uh they were also built by R Whitworth Excel here Sun bound Etc just a cycle frame of course easy for people who weren’t used to motorcycling to convert from a pedal cycle there’s the simple speedometer drive from the front wheel there she is the BSA Banton the engine design was pinched from dkw just after World War II had finished and uh it went on to be a very famous Little Engine especially in this the competition model utter reliability I once saw BSA Bantam advertised in a poultry column another Oldtimer here this gives example with the old calthorp now don’t associate that name with the Japanese it’s ja preswick of London he produced uh many an engine for not only stationary engines but of course motorcycling good engine builders but this is really going back in years now with the famous old belt draw wet weather they didn’t have slip with the old band breakes that you can see there they didn’t stop very easily either but that was motorcycling in its difficult days the old side valve engine there look n detachable head the little leather bag on the side for the tools no locks on them nobody pinched your tools in those days come to the comment Point used to go to the pictures right up until the 40s and 50s and just throw your leggings and Overcoat over the saddle was still there when you come back times have changed now that’s the oiler there to show the flow of oil going to the engine you had to pump your pressure and the famous name of Brooks on the saddle the old aslene lighting ah those were the days bags of levers to play with to control your ignition in your air I’ll bet that one draws a [Music] Crow another good old timer here sporting the name of bound bound Villers because even in those days fitted with a Villers Engine with that big outside flywheel and once again belt draw you a rare Old Timer is that if you find one like this I’ll hang on to it rare models such as this are worth their [Music] money once again the old oil pump and you could gauge on the left there the Mount of oil flow that was required ah now someone looking at something a little bit different there and here we have the container for the acetylene the carbid keep the old lamps going you see the old engines there as you see no detachable head on them no electric horn love job see you later Douglas a famous name built in Kingswood in Bristol always made a great bike invariably a twin engine bike and even went on to produce some good bikes after the war but this is very old this is one of the very early ones Douglas too a name that uh earned Fame on grass and Speedway very fast bikes never seemed to get their marketing going their production and uh had lots of financial problems and Scott too there’s an engine there of parallel twin water cools that was designed what 60 odd years ago probably more and uh they went on keeping that same engine after the war they with the Burmingham Scott and then the famous firm of silk still produced that engine so just shows the soundness of that particular design another firm with a good racing background Scots parallel twin water coold two strokes this is the sort of thing that our Far Eastern friends advertise now thinking it’s something new and we were doing it back just after World War I tell me what it’s all about that’s a heavy Hol feel just the show there’s nothing sounded like a Scot either there’s always known as the yowl of the Scot they’ve certainly got their share of odies here today another great firm that didn’t produce after the war the New Hudson they did produce Alo Cycles but their old motorcycle manufacturing just died out in the 30s but another great bike always pick the Scot out with that great radiator and a very unusual shaped Petra tank on them too note the hand change something you’d never sell a bike with nowadays would you you can see there the damper on the forks that is to damp your spring on your suspension no T Forks in those days everything sound mechanical ideas no sophistication but uh a treat to ride and enjoy especially this old competition nor a very soft after bike a lot of these bikes here are uh fairly common and fairly easy to come by as far as classic collectors are concerned but others are rare and most collectible so if you do decide to join the classic and vintage bike Circle then uh you’ve got to decide whether you want something that’s just nice to ride or something that’s nice to own nice line up here of bikes from the 50s and 60s and now we’re going to have another chance to show off the sound of these old favorites as they trle around the ring once more like on aing machine watching [Music] [Music] line motor it’s a great day for these um old bikers here because they can go around the ring EV lumbered with crash helmet some riding gear nice bit of sunshine and riding in a nice free way the way we used to years ago before the dangers on the road reached the scale that they have now it’s nice just sitting there with a good hot bike between your knees and hands drop down on those handlebars and you suddenly get the ears to wind it up and uh thought Old Timer there is uh probably reminiscent over those days of your thinking about the things I’ve just been [Music] mentioning points of interest always to be uh noted by the enthusiasts some of them uh critical about not having the right foot breaths or the right markings on there and here we have our first combination we’ve seen in this little show the cheapest form of Transport ever only half the price of the normal Insurance to run a combination certainly much cheaper than the car and I think the mini was the one who eventually came in andly put the motorcycle combinations off the road lot of fine lineup of course number plates too some of them aren’t uh the correct age most of these appear to be quite genuine and original it is possible now to get age related numbers if you haven’t got the correct number plate on your [Music] bike there’s another real collector’s piece there the BSA gold star BSA produced their gold star as their competition model for many years since before the war and at one time the Clubman TT over in the O of man it became a little bit boring to see them at the top of the scale on each of those events another famous old single by Triumph either the tiger 90 or tiger 80 that was on the later matches when matchless and AJ all became the AMC Associated motorcycle and they’re one of the early plunger gold flashes a lot of bathtub tramps certainly a love hate bike you either love them or hate them because the old open work motorcyclist really frowned on the triumphs when they enclose a rear wheel in this [Music] way famous old name of Exel here didn’t go much on his paint finish on there couple more triumphs here certainly the most uh popular or common of all Classic Bikes because of their long run of production the aerial Arrow aerial leaders and aerial arrows were very forward thinking in their design press steel construction Twin two stroke a very nice handling little machine too with a good turn of performance but once again the British motorcyclist the old stick in the mud that he was sort of frowned on them but there are a lot of people looking for them now Ariel could see the way ahead long before Mr aage motorcyclist could there’s the BSA combination a site car possibly by watsonians a firm that’s been making site car for many many years and still in production up there in the CWS now took a bit of getting used to riding the combination after riding the solo got to forget all about balancing which is quite difficult when you’re set sat on the same machine that you’ve been balancing for a long time and the wind screen that uh was always popular to them you were always find that on the man who rode to work regularly the sporting motorcyclist tended to foohoo you if you put a wind screen on your bike but you ride back and forward to work regularly five and six days a week you were you were half glad to have a windscreen on there another big Bonville the Silver Jubilee model I see once again an issue like that would certainly add a lot of money to the cost and value of your machine there’s a bike on very Do’s vet this is one of the old Cami V the overed camshaft model uh who had had a wonderful racing pedigree back in the 30s and of course just post war I a great machine not one of the big Husky heavy bikes but everything was reasonably lightweight and finely machined and there are a lot of uh very proud biset owners about now and just look at that for a record another famous make of SOS the super onslo special and at this point in time Mr enlo is still riding a motorcycle well up in his ’90s I think it’s his ambition to ride a motorcycle on his H 100th birthday a grand old fellow who built some grand old bikes now you get a number plate on an old bike like this you get a lot of collectors would buy it and and sell the number plate but uh thank heaven this proud SOS owner hasn’t done just that a lot of this happens at auctions and here’s the famous Brock Bank Corgi based on the wartime well bike that was designed to fold up and go into the um Airborne uh uh gliders so that the um troops had some form of communication when they reached the ground and these little corgies were very popular in postwar years they were cheap little um two-stroke villar’s engine of course in there you just kept them in the passage at home if you like and pop down the shop with them or sometimes to work another bike well worth finding is a Sunbeam after the war bsa’s made sunbeams produc was a very sophisticated sha dve twin but before the war they were the big singles ultimate in reliability known as the gentleman’s motorcycle and the superb finish on them was Second To None because Sun Beams also owned a firm that made paint a sort of lacquer and they used the bikes to advertise their product everything was black whereas the lot of bikes sported their chrome finish tanks and rims Sunbeam kept to the black and what a superb black it was it lasted for years yes there’s some fight Engineering in the Sunbeam something different now little three-wheel tricycle it’s the bond mini car with a Villard 2 stroke engine these little cars were designed to um give a bit of weather protection to the normal motorcyclist and very good they were too cruising speed of about 40 m hour on a flat road that is and a fantastic turning Circle because that engine was mounted on the front wheel and would turn through about 90° so you can just imagine the pette that you could get out of those which made it a very easy vehicle to park and a lot of the young ladies enjoyed the little Bond mini car go to work work in very simple in construction but the main point was you were in the dry certainly not in the dry here you would be in the side car this is a good old Royal Enfield e twin combination and look on the right hand side there that’s not a kickart that’s actually a hand start you wind them up and that’s a good old bike belongs to the vintage motorcycle club owner that’s done many a rally and many a road run it’s pretty high modies per year there she is that v twin 1000c engine fix head cylinders take them right off to do your decarbonizing unless you take the big plug out there and clean out because decarbonizing was quite a regular thing after about 3 or 4,000 miles on the old fuels back in the early pre-war days long before oils reached the Fantastic quality that they are today the life of a motorcycle engine was rather short and lots of Maintenance was done hence the Simplicity their Construction so that the average owner could do most of his own work with a little bit of tankr to help from his [Music] friends scooters too became very popular for because of their weather protection we imported a couple of ideas from abroad also produced some of our own and uh even enclos some of our small mopeds so here you see examples now when ice bows are fraternity he’s getting a little softer and want a little bit better weather protection but we went through an era when this was so and then of course in the’ 60s Hondas Suzukis as you see here came over from uh Japan with their high revving Little Engines and our motorcycles said they won’t last 5 minutes but they’ve certainly shown us what they can do in the motorcycle world so now we even have Japs long enough here to be eligible for a Classic bik parade DMW made this machine the deemster which was a very popular high-powered scooter and it was popular and bought by a lot of police forces hence the blue light on this particular one I don’t know what force it belonged to but it was a good size comfortable bike ideal h of Bobby and good suspension too and here we have a typical example of a pre-war sort of late 30s bike old red volves just separate push rod tubes hand change and built by BSA as many of the pre-war buges were Birmingham Small Arms the producer of bikes for everybody has always been my state and uh here’s a fine example of one of the good old reliables that they built rigid back end gerder Forks to see none of the luxuries another example too were by Ariel Ariel always made a habit of putting the dashboard in the top of the tank which was uh something they continued in early postwar years Ariel another firm that eventually Amalgamated with bsas with no racing history but certainly good competition history the great Samy Miller uh earned all his Fame in the competition in Trials World on an [Music] aial now we got another BSA here a great name in the motorcycling world was the round tank BSA and here she is a fine example of her side valve engine not belt drive you can just see the sprocket for the rear chain drive on this particular one but she did have the huge band breake on the back and of course carbide lighting and what I think as youngsters how my cousins and I just about wreck a similar bike to this that we gave 2 for what would it be worth today well there by way of a contrast is the 50s gold flash another friend of mine had one of these nearly lost his life with it but got better and went back motorcycling again that’s the way they made him in those days had them we were only too pleased to have something that would balance on two wheels with a bit of power between our knees that you could wind up and go and uh another famous name here hrd later to become Vincent of stevenage remember they produce those huge big twins the raped and the black shadow real classic bit of engineering this certainly a bike well worth looking out for but with all these bikes the next question is where are we going to find them perhaps we can help you to take a classic motorcycle on Parade hello my name is Jerry Burr today I’m at the bath and West show ground at shepon Mallet where twice a year Palmer snails hold a motorcycle auction not just any old motorbike but classic and vintage motorcycles and we want to take you around the area today to help you with a little bit of advice on how to buy a good secondhand Classic Bike or even buy bits and pieces to add to the bike you’ve got well I’ve got an old friend here with me this morning Jeff clue he’s a consultant here at the auction he’s also the author of many motorcycle books Jeff the question we want to get clear now before we talk about this buying bikes is the various categories that bikes come in now we talk about vintage and we talk about the old veteran can you give us the dates of these yes they’re fairly clear cut now because the vintage motorcycle club established these some years ago and most people now follow the broad pattern but starts really from the Year Dot when they first came into being uh to the end of 1914 and that’s what accepted for the Pioneer run and so on yeah um vintage runs from the beginning of 1915 right through to the end of 1930 um then you come into a pre-war category which takes you at verely to the wartime years because obviously not many bikes were made during the War years and then after that you get the post vintage and in the case of the vintage motorcycle club the cut off um Mark is 25 years anything that’s less than 25 years isn’t eligible now there is a lot of confusion over this because a lot of people use the word classic but classic is a word you can’t really Define there’s no such animal is there no so there’s all kinds of interpretations of that that’s fair enough well thanks Jeff and we’ll be chatting you later on about any other problems we come across much of for your help okay well in one of these boxes there might well be just a bit you’re looking for but for some people they will find an item such as this old engine here and that could be the starting point of a classic or vintage motorbike for them it’s a hard way to do it but you take it away and then from then on it’s a long time and a lot of expense before you find the other parts a lot of research has to be done you sometimes buy a box with all the bits of that motorcycle allegedly in there but be careful you might find bits of lawn mow or anything in the box with you these are known as basket cases but that’s the hard way to do it but still some people get about it that way and they’ve got the frud of having got it all themselves but here we are take your pick well this is the next stage up to the basket cave it’s mostly there there but still lots of other bits to find before you uh consider your budget bear in mind that you can buy something like this quite cheaply but what are you going to spend not only in money but in time renovating the saddle buying a new one the paint work are you going to do it yourself you got no chain you got to get a new chain your levers can you get the correct levers there’s a lot of things to consider when you buy something in this condition you’ll often find a bike in a little bit better condition than this if even ridable but it still wants more done to it bear in mind all those details the costs because it’s surprising what time and money you can spend and end up with something that you spend a lot more on that you’d ever see for it again now this is a typical example of how much work you want to do how much you want to spend in the first pH and how much can you do can you get the bits for it can you do the paint work this is something you really got to consider you can look at some of these bikes and think yeah I could do that but there’s a lot of work to be done and a lot to be spent on a project like this so do you want to buy something this condition or really go to the top and think you’ve got something that wants no more time or money spent on it at the other end of the scale we’ve got a little bike like this mundal beautifully prepared beautifully restored and finished bike that in all intents and purposes is ready for you to ride something to enjoy and it’s different it’s a proper showstopper it’s going to catch a lot of interested eyes wherever you go all right you can afford it you’re going to take it home and buy it but if anything did go wrong can you get the bits for it back one thing you’ve got to consider very seriously if you’re going to buy a classic bike is how much have you got to spend the budget when you’ve saved up certain amount of money don’t think that’s all you’re going to spend on that bud You’ got to have a little bit to spare because there may well be some extra bits to buy and of course you’ve got to ensure it so look into all these things very carefully before you come along here prepared to pay a given amount of money John this morning well we showed you the basket case and the part assembled bike and this is what we would call well sorted and up and running it’s a nice looking bike it’s all there check that it’s all there check that you got your lights are working your cables are all working all your leers are there the rubbers good exhaust pipes and then listen to it and have a go on it ride it up and down the road check it all through because you know you’re paying a good price for a machine like this you’re aren’t going to win any Posh prizes with it but it you can get a lot of enjoyment but go through everything mechanically right from your tires your chains your engines and your cycle parts which will give you a lot of Happiness then if you got it all right [Music] now if you’re really looking for something nice well look for something in The Concourse line like this Tri up Bonville you got something like that you’ll always be welcome at a show people will gather around cuz this is one of the 650 Bonos I’m very sought after this is something that if you spend your money on you got to bear in mind that um you spent the high premium and uh you won’t have much change left out of a few thousand on this one but it’s it’s nice to own and uh you’ve got something here that hopefully you can ride and enjoy and show on many occasions but before you buy them make sure it’s running nicely because although thing is in concour condition want to find out what it’s like inside there as well where do I get that well I’m now standing with Peter Clark and a well-known face part of the furniture here at the Palmer auction for many many years Peter now what we’re doing today we’re trying to give advice to people coming along to buy a classic bike here at an auction now what advice would you give well I would suggest that they get here in reasonable time and to have the opportunity of looking at the bikes carefully picking out the ones that they perhaps favor and making certain that they know what they’re buying what procedures have they got to go through to be able to take part in the auction well the first thing they have to do if they intend to bid then they must go to our desk there and get a bidding slip and a number so that every a person who wants to bid has a number against their name and when they bid all they have to do is to hold up the number I jot it down on the S slip and hence we got the name so when they’re out there in that massive crow that I know that you will have here ler uh you’re up there you got your good friend up there spotting with you as well now is there any chance of some poor chap here that’s got to scratch on the head is going to go away with a bike you don’t well it it’s not it’s not so doesn’t often happen in fact very very rarely because there’s no point in knocking it down to somebody who doesn’t really want it at the end of the day so I think that’s very that’s a rarity so if I were coming along here today standing out there I found the bike I want and you’re out there you have it on the screen showing the bike up there now what have I got to do I just got to be aware of how much I’m going to to go with the bidding well you probably have to have a good idea in your own mind as to what you’re going to bid up to and and well stick with it but obviously the auctioneer hopes that in the Spirit of the auction else you know they’ll get carried away a bit prices will go yeah that’s the whole beauty of an auction well let’s hope you have a good auction Peter thank for those few words of advice and um let’s hope all goes well thank you very much indeed thank you thank you at 100 Place 130 140 140 140 150 fres Place 160 160 170 170 170 at 170 at 170 80 180 190 190 at 190 at 190 at 190 at 190 you’re missing it at 19 200 at 200 210 at 210 at 210 make no mistake is for sale at 210 at 210 the bidding right in the middle I go to sell then at £210 all finished at 210 number 408 thank you very much well whether you’ve decided to build your own bike or buy one complete one day ass shures eggs you’re going to have to come to an ala jumbo here we have a typical example of an ala jumbo that goes on in many parts of the country and interesting places they are to visit and so necessary but if you go to an alter jumbo looking for a park don’t matter how rare you’ve got to adopt the attitude it’s out there somewhere somebody’s got it somewhere and some parts are difficult to find so it means rumaging around all these stalls and all these boxes but sometimes the parts are more plenti make up your mind if you want to find an original part or a pattern part A lot of people do pattern Parts if you’re going to buy something like a Magneto make sure it works or if it doesn’t work can you take it back to the stall holder Bear all these things in mind because behind us we’ve got some stall holders with piles and piles of apparent junk but it’s all useful stuff and we have the specialist there let’s have a look at some of these specialists [Music] n [Music] a [Music] something else to consider an essential part of your equipment with a classic pipe is a manual often you’ve got a friend who can tell you when something’s gone wrong and how to put it right but there’s nothing better than have the manual appropriate to your bike but you can sit down and have a read through uh some of these manuals are brief some are writer manuals some are very extensive but they certainly pay for their s so make sure you got yourself a good book about your bike another very important part about buying a a bike is a documentation you’ve got to have your log book and of course eventually you’ve got to get your Certificate of Insurance in OT but you’ve got to have an identity with that bike make sure that when you’re buying it that you’ve got the correct documents in the engine and frame number on there they’re correct it’s too late once you’ve taken it home you might never find the person you bought off it off again very important thing are documents don’t worry too much about if the number plate is being altered along the line because a lot of people sell their numbers and they re-register them if you find that the registration doesn’t comply with the year that the uh bike was manufactured you can get now through your local Authority an age- related number with no cost and very little trouble so we wish you luck in that direction another thing a very fine bit of advice is once you’ve got it you’ve restored it you’re enjoying it make sure you keep it get a good luck to put on it wherever you keep it make sure it’s secure they’re very very valuable to uh crooked fingers or motorcycles make sure you keep yours throughout the day I hope we’ve covered the many points necessary for you to go out and do your shopping there are many pitfalls I hope we’ve put you around those and that you’ll become one of the people among the thousands in the world that enjoy classic motorcycling so put all the facts together get out there and find yourself a classic bike [Music] he