Practical guide to Zone training. Any activity is better than none, but efficient exercise using Zones is best. Part of the Older Athlete Series.
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[Music] what we older types don’t like to admit is we’re running out of time there’s more life behind us than ahead of us any exercise is better than none but efficient effective exercise is surely best it doesn’t really matter whether we call this activity exercise or training we all want to enjoy our chosen sports for as long as possible so it really makes sense to do so efficiently and way that maximizes the benefits to our health because get this right and this could help us lead longer happier healthier [Music] lives you know that you can exercise at different levels of effort these have long been divided into so-called training zones five zones being the most common there is a confusing number of terms bandied around and from my reading it’s obvious even the experts don’t agree on how to define and use these zones I have seen the same Zone described as steady heavy moderate and somewhat Hard Exercise depending on which method that expert is using I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking just tell me what I need to do to be able to continue to enjoy my sports and to exercise efficiently of course you might just enjoy riding your bike ignoring all the numbers and great if that works for you my aim is simply to make two videos that explain how us older folks can use training zones if we choose to do so we won’t get bogged down in heart rate formulas this will be practical I have to say I am in no way a health professional I have no qualifications whatsoever in this field I was one of the BBC’s First Health correspondents I got used to studying Health reports speaking to Medics and translating their work into more understanding communicable form and that is all I am trying to do in this series of [Music] videos walking is one of the best activities you can do if the intensity is such that you get a little breathless then even better at this intensity we are using slow twitch muscle fibers these mainly use fat as fuel they are pulling fatty acid from your body slow twitch fibers have the highest content of M mondria the powerhouses of our cells and these need work mitochondrial Health becomes especially important as we grow older because one of the most significant Hallmarks of Aging is a decline in the number and quality of our mitochondria that’s the view of Dr Peter attire one of the world’s leading longevity doctors he goes on to say aerobic exercise stimulates the creation of many new and more efficient mitochondria while eliminating ones which have become dysfunctional graphically Zone one looks like this at this level of effort your fat use increases with intensity carbohydrate use increases slowly as does the amount of lactate measured in your blood you’re not getting a big training response but it is contributing to mitochondrial function walking might not get you fit for cycling and running but as you can see it is great for your overall health but it’s better if you can pick up the pace of it [Music] Zone 2 is the next level of intensity and it’s here that much of the good stuff happens because you’re still using slow twitch fibers this is how Zone 2 looks graphically because those slow twitch fibers are working you’re burning fat as fuel and eventually that Peaks meanwhile carbohydrate use has also been increasing lactate levels in the blood are rising and at this point a physiological change happens the lactate level Kinks slightly upwards this is lactate threshold one or metabolic threshold one and for some it defines the top of Zone 2 it’s when your body starts to find it less easy to clear lactate from your blood the torque test is reportedly a practical way to find the top of your Zone 2 top athlete or amateur training in zone 2 is a good way to improve the health and number of your mitochondria the very things from which you draw energy and at the same time you do minimal training damage to your body which is great for older athletes so this talk test is a good way of listening to your body and estimating your top of zone two I can talk to you but not in complete sentences this talk test is said to be more reliable than taking a percentage of your maximum heart rate because those standard percentages not only vary between individuals it varies in yourself dayto day this slight breathlessness estimates the top of Zone 2 you’d train below this level where you can talk a little more freely current guidance for reasonably trained older athletes is 3 hours of Zone 2 training a week which might seem like a lot but remember a Brisk Hill walk or jog can also get you into zone two right now I feel I’m just pushing through the top of my zone 2 my heart rate around what is it 142 so let’s see how well that is estimated my first metabolic Threshold at the top of Zone 2 I have come to Edinburgh napia University’s Department of sport exercise and Health Sciences to have those metabolic thresholds accurately measured this test costs 90 and is very popular with amateur athletes who wish to put precise numbers to their training and to figure that out we do a lactic thres test um so we can pinpoint specific heart rates or workloads so they can build upon that and hopefully improve with the ultimate goal I guess of pushing their curves to the right that’s what we kind of talk about quite a lot increase H the workload at those thresholds yeah to lower the heart rate at those thresholds to improve performance there’s more out there available on mass for people to understand what what information they can get and then how they can use this I ride at increasing intensity and every four minutes Neil Guthrie Pricks my finger takes a sample of my blood and a machine will measure the lactate content he’s looking for the point where it starts to Kink upwards which typically happens between 1.7 and 2 mes per liter of lactate in my blood meanwhile the mask is helping to measure whether I’m burning fat or carbohydrate is fuel we can pinpoint again the exact workload someone as using fats up until or a heart rate H and then again we can try and shift that to the right with the correct correct training while I found all this stuff interesting it is not essential for training in my example though let’s see how different estimates of the top of Zone 2 compared to the actual measurement the lab measured my top of Zone 2 at 147 beats per minute which is exactly the longdistance raise values my coach gave me OB be it 8 years ago the T test was pretty close 142 some Garmin devices do the estimate for you mine said 144 but if we use one of the common formulas that work on a percentage of maximum heart rate that is low and I do know my maximum heart rate had I used the unreliable 220 minus age to estimate it the number would be way out but please remember these vary from one day to another depending on sleep hydration stress and more amid this potentially confusing blizzard of numbers my key takeaway is to listen to your body there are some days I just don’t feel like going on the turbo so I go for a walk instead that might start in zone one if I feel up to it I’ll pick up the pace like today and end up in zone two the important point is that some activity is always better than none but hey we’ve only covered two of the five zones what about the other three they will come in a future video and one of them is almost as important as Zone 2 training subscribe and you will not miss it you’ll find all the older athlete series of videos here with more to come until next time goodbye [Applause]
30 Comments
This is soooo encouraging. And finally a video that lets me feel ok that my “wearables” keep insisting I’m way above zone 2 while my own talk-test estimate says no. My heart rate has always skewed higher than average for my age, even when young, so I tend not to be concerned, but still… was nice to see that your own heart rate zone 2 threshold was much higher than the old percent-of-max HR formulas.
At 1 min 30 sec, when did you get one of those bikes with the drivetrain on the left? Is that to ride on the continent🤔
Useful to get a sense of the top of zone 2 via breathing. I think that for seniors, that 220 – age could be way off (I am at least 15 beats higher)
Oh, haha, I didn't like the first words you uttered. haha, I don't need reminding
Excercise Zones are somewhat subjective based upon the individuals state.
Thanks for that Simon. another great video.
Another well researched and informative vlog. Thank you.
I don't mind getting older, since it beats the heck out of the alternative. ⚰
Thanks for this video. Having watched countless videos about zone 2, this is the first time I've seen the difference between calculated zone 2 (as a percentage of max hr) and actual being discussed much. I've never done testing but have always felt that my zone 2 is much higher than my 75% of max heart rate formula. I've filmed videos narrating riding on mountain bike trails and I was confused by the fact that my heart rate was way beyond my calculated zone 2 yet my conversation with the camera continued in a similar manner to when yours when you mention you're reaching the top of your zone 2. I had heard Peter Atila talking about the conversation test but dismissed it because that hr value when my conversation wasn't possible was about 25 to 30 bpm higher than calculated upper zone 2 (I'm in my mid '50s with an actual max HR in the mid 180s). Anyways, appreciate hearing your thoughts on this!
This was really excellent Simon, quality stuff!
Great stuff..keep it coming!
Your video reinforces my impression that most "run slow to get fast" advocates set the pace way too low. My max HR is about the same as yours, and I can run comfortablly at 130-150 pbm. Over an hour, I have a fair amount of drift (more than when younger). So I push harder to hit 130 at the start than 145 at the end. Never do I get as out of breath as you appear in the video. Stephen Seiler suggests that "slow" (which he calls zone 1 and you call zone 2) is 80% of max power, which is about 80% of max heart rate reserve (based on a true max HR, not 220-age or whatever). For me, that's 148. MAF would have me training at 115. I do that (or less) every morning on my indoor bike. But for training benefit in running, I do 130-150. For occasional intervals, I do 160+.
That old 220-age formula ought to be retired. 🤨 Much like the pyramid of food groups, what matters is a varied but balanced mix of physical activity. At least that’s what feels best to me. 😌
From Oz … everybody is different that’s for sure. But we are all the same in that we function physiologically in the metabolic pathways, albeit that few of us are at the same point on the path as Tedej Pogacar – undaunted, at about three times his age, I’m working on my mitochondria.
great video. What is your max heart rate and how did you establish that.
Zone 1 and 2 🤣🤣🤣🤣 we are older, not dead
Good video as ever however at 5 mins 30 that looks much more like a zone 3 effort than zone 2. Always best to be conservative I think, you're still getting massive aerobic benefits at lower heart rates without the risk of overtraining, injury, illness etc
I'm just curious if you have had a bike fit? The gravel bike you were cycling seemed very long in the top tube for you?
Thank you for this series and another informative video.
Excellent information and very well explained. Thank you so much for posting.
Once again a excellent video. Great information. A suggestion for a future video. How about going deeper into a activity like walking, like what are some of the best shoes to wear, howcto get most out of your walk, etcetera. You could do this with different physical activities. Looking forward to the next video.
An excellent video highlighting just how complicated this gets because the experts can't agree on a common standard or vocabulary. Never mind that the very scientific sounding formulae are often wildly out. I particularly like how you highlight walking as useful exercise. Too many runners and cyclists ignore it. I would prefer more recreational athletes go for a 'recovery walk' instead of a slow ride or run. I try to cycling 300-400 miles a month and walk at least 30.
At my age I can no longer talk in complete sentences in any zone. Is it a problem of lactic acid or brain cells?
Thanks again for another great video. I haven’t measured myself for a while, something to do soon!
Excellent video, explained really well, thank you
Great video. Thank you for providing this information.
One odd question, I noticed the handlebar on your bike seems to have a good rise on it, can you share what handlebar that is? I'm looking for something similar for my gravel bike.
Thanks for the series. Good to learn from others in slowly advancing years.
I must admit I don't really understand how your top of zone 2 can be 147bpm. If I remember correctly Attia and Millan suggest top of Z2 to be 75% of max heart rate. If 147 is 75% of your max then your max heart rate would be 197! And I think it isn't,. Also, they would say if you come out of Z2 (higher) it takes around 20 minutes to get back into that mitochondrial boosting phase. What did the Napier say about your LT1?
This is a great video series! Thanks!