I’ve spent the last week comparing the Grail vs Grizl but can’t come to a decision. I ride almost only country gravel roads, maybe bikepack trip once per year but I have saddle bags and frame bags so I don’t need mounting points. I currently have a Kona Sutra LTD but looking for something lighter / faster / newer. My only must haves are electronic shifting, carbon frame and would like carbon wheels.
Bike 1 – Gen 1 Grail CF SL Di2 – has carbon DT Swiss rims, but has hoverbar which seems to be so polarizing – price $4729 CDN
[https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/gravel-bikes/performance/grail/cf-sl/grail-cf-sl-8-di2/3098.html?dwvar\_3098\_pv\_rahmenfarbe=R064\_P15](https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/gravel-bikes/performance/grail/cf-sl/grail-cf-sl-8-di2/3098.html?dwvar_3098_pv_rahmenfarbe=R064_P15)
Bike 2 – Grizl CF SL 7 eTap – honestly this is the bike I want the most, but with alloy rims it seems like a horrible value compared to the others – price $4349 CDN
[https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/cf-sl/grizl-cf-sl-7-etap/3474.html?dwvar\_3474\_pv\_rahmenfarbe=R095\_P07](https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/cf-sl/grizl-cf-sl-7-etap/3474.html?dwvar_3474_pv_rahmenfarbe=R095_P07)
Bike 3 – Grizl CF SLX 8 eTap Trail – carbon rims but has a shock that I have no interest in. Has SRAM Force instead of Rival. Can’t find out how much a stock Grizl fork is. I don’t really want to spend this much on a bike that I have to change a fork – price $5849 CDN
[https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/trail/grizl-cf-slx-8-etap-trail/3475.html?dwvar\_3475\_pv\_rahmenfarbe=R083\_P05](https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/trail/grizl-cf-slx-8-etap-trail/3475.html?dwvar_3475_pv_rahmenfarbe=R083_P05)
Bike 4 – Grizl CF SL 6 AXS – this is surprisingly cheap, I would use the money saved to buy a set of good carbon rims. However I have no idea if Apex AXS is any good at all – price $3349
[https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/cf-sl/grizl-cf-sl-6-axs/3696.html?dwvar\_3696\_pv\_rahmenfarbe=R095\_P10](https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/cf-sl/grizl-cf-sl-6-axs/3696.html?dwvar_3696_pv_rahmenfarbe=R095_P10)
Thanks for any feedback!
by Specialist-Falcon-84