00:00 News Roundup for the week, including Low Traffic Neighbourhoods made permanent in Oxford.
09:04 Bike Buses with Bike Worcester. Eleven routes established by parents and volunteers sinch March 2022, to eight primary schools. Giving children the priority on the road.
41:05 Analysing data on vehicles involved in collisions – What Kills Whom – methods from the Oxfordshire Cycle Campaign.
We’ll start with the news and then we’ll have uh Rob colia from bike Worcester uh talking about bike buses and the bike to school work that they’ve been doing in Worcester and then if we’ve still got time I might talk a bit about uh some of
The uh um analysis of Crash data U crash and collision data that I’ve been able to do off the DFT uh inspired partly by uh some work that Bob Davis did um with the parliamentary advisory committee on transport safety a few years back um but
Um been able to make it so it’s locally relevant and might be useful for campaigning purposes so uh let us as ever start with the news and I’m going to use my um uh chair position to talk about the big news from Oxford uh today uh which is we had the cabinet meeting
To uh consider three local traffic neighborhoods and they were approved um so the three that we’ve had in East Oxford that were experimental um were all approved uh the little bit of a sting is that um they are there will be three streets uh definitive Road mland Road
And James Street that will have ampr cameras um fitted um primarily to uh allow access by the emergency services but also taxes will be allowed through those which will obviously bit bit bit more traffic volume um the taxi drivers have been told in no uncertain terms to
Act as guests when they’re going through those um that will be kept under review we’ll see how it goes because uh there’s obviously quite a lot of taxes they are worthy part of the um uh transport system in Oxford we’ll see how it goes um
And um I will uh now pass it over to uh Ruth for news uh the door’s just knocked roxan could you chair for a few seconds Ruth thank you I just want to Big up houndslow yet again because cycleway nine which I think I said last week they
Finished the next section from ebridge going west I rode it yesterday and it’s frankly a awesome it’s as good as where I was in Del uh the week before uh so that’s really really good news and even better is that from the 26th of October
The next section is going to be built so um hsow yet again is proving to be pretty amazing and stall and making sure that there’s plenty of places safe to cycle the only thing now we have to do is get tfl Richmond to make it safe to
Go over Q Bridge and join it all together but thank you thanks Ruth Bob would you like to share your news you’ve got your hand up um yeah uh first of all it was good news on the oxa thing um just a note with regard to Robin’s thing about how to uh count
And measure Road danger um take a look at my uh article there I’ve just put in the chat which covers everything um also it’s in a piece in the last issue of uh local transport today to Mark the 30th anniversary of the road danger reduction
Forum I’ll put that um up uh as well in the chat and uh don’t forget we’re on in December Road D reduction Forum will be having a webinar to Mark our 30th Anniversary thank you very much congrats Bob uh Simon your news and then I’ll hand it back over to you Robin yeah
I stuck it I stuck it in the chat um but uh 18th of November uh is our community skills Summit I I think it’s one of the best things we do in a year it’s a free uh although donations very welcome uh intensive day of kind of Skilling up
Campaigners you don’t have to live in London to come to it uh you don’t have to be an active travel campaigner to come to it but probably uh one or other of those things will will give you more relevance uh both once even better uh
But yeah please come down to it um the other thing I was going to say uh is we are looking at early November I can’t re reveal everything yet uh but we are doing a big update on our dangerous Junctions mapping um and I’m really
Hoping that will make a a lot of noise because we’ve been working on it for a year so we’re going to now be able to map each individual borrow in London uh for both pedestrians and cyclists we have an algorithm that spots Junctions cuz stats 19 data is not brilliant on
Spotting Junctions um and works out things like whether danger is declining because for instance the junction might have actually been fixed or improved Etc so there’s a whole bunch of work under the Bonnet that will give us I think quite an interesting uh update and we’re going to be standing somewhere in
Southwest London but I cannot reveal the location uh in early November uh revealing uh basically London’s worst Junction for cycling uh and so yeah uh once that’s launched in public I’ll quite happily come and talk about it here if you want i’ be really interested to know Sim
If that’s applicable to other regions if we can use the same technology anyway sorry Rob quite possibly you took the words right out of my mouth roxan it’s exactly what I’m thinking is the if you’ve established a method for doing that that’s that’s really interesting and definitely uh
Will be interested to hear from you in this very Place uh Tim Tim what’s your news from Leicester hi folks I’m afraid it’s gloomy again um we’ve had a fatality sixy old guy uh cycling on the outer ring um killed by four people in an Audi um yesterday no arrest yet um and
Birmingham as well uh there have been a number in Birmingham that Sarah Chandler’s been tweeting about so uh yeah I was feeling quite um stuffed about things recently but it’s a bit down at the moment and just on the safer streets work um we’re all knackered
Having put on those demos I’m sure most of the people on this this call were but they Sarah’s putting together a video for the breaks week of action and she’s asking for uh images of roadside shrines you know those Bunches of flowers and um stuff so uh she’s on Twitter at Sarah
Chandler and and she’ll put something together which will be one two minute video but um about peace really and safe thanks okay any more news present no uh I’ll just answer one question that somebody put in um about the ltn in Oxford it is um both taxes
And private hire um that’s permitted and yes we did suggest I Can See Kai waving a hand there we did suggest it was limited to the just the licensed taxes we’ve also suggested that it ends when the bigger traffic filters the more strategic traffic filters scheme goes in
And it it we may be able to get a review of it uh when that goes in which should be in October um next year uh Kai you have a a question or a piece of news for us yeah it’s just it wasn’t really uh very great or of significance but I just
Wanted to say congratulations to Graham and Bolton for recruiting a record number of people for the um group cycle last time and I’m hoping that the next one will be equally as uh well attended and as refreshing thank you well done Graham it’s good to have bit of congratulations for positive news as
Well so no problems with that right let’s move on with uh let’s uh get the bike bus moving on then and and let’s switch to uh our attentions to rob in Worster um yep I can see you’re still there uh would you like to uh s sound
Check one two you hear me all right yep yep hear you very clearly good stuff y thanks Robin well thanks very much for for having me um quick intro my name is Rob um volunteer for bike Worcester um and I’m the coordinator of our bike bus program um feels like that’s quite like
A grand title um the the story of the bike bus I I’ll come to um but it’s grown significantly over the last 18 months and and I’ll talk you through a little bit of that story um so so today this week um we have 11 routs um bike bus routes
Going to eight primary schools in the city um and you can see those with the indicated on the with the green lines um we we’re very strong in the north of the city um partly due to where our volunteers are and where our parents live but also the kind of density and
The makeup of the city in that area is is is well suited and the certainly the east of the city is quite hilly um or Hillier uh uh so we have less penetration there so to speak but we’ve all of these bike buses have been set up
Since March 2022 um so we’ve made some some really really great progress um and it’s a really really exciting project uh and I’m really delighted to talk about it I spend all my time nearly talking about bike bus and plugging it to in as many audiences and whoever will listen
To me um so it’s nice to to pitch to an easy easy crowd um I’ll I’ll rattle through this and then if there’s any questions happy to go back and answer them um this was the first bike bus we did in Worcester um uh this and this was in
March uh last year um there’s yeah and all these these children were in reception at the time and they’re now in in year two um and we all basically the kind of Genesis of it was I’d seen um I think the Shand bike bus in Glasgow um on Twitter thought that’s an amazing
Idea that’s something that I really want to do um I put a a shout out to the parents in my son’s class um and um uh three other families messaging back and said that sounds brilliant um this this location is only about maybe 900 meters from the school it’s really not far at
All um so we did our first few pilot rides um really small really short um with small little ones on on Bounce bikes um and then over the over this year it’s it’s growing these are all pictures from our um from the main route the the original one as as we’ve grown
Um you can kind of see so we had we’ve had the local police join us um a few times which is super useful um and and yeah it’s it’s really gr if that picture at the front is was might have been one of our biggest buses um it’s really
Grown to be um to be a massive group um we now have a bike bus every day of the week in Worcester so Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday um there’s a there’s a bike bus to a different school um I think most most I hope most people
Um are familiar with it it’s you know it’s it’s it’s a it’s quite a thing um the the formation is um you know probably um is is really special um we take the entire road we have front and back Marshals um parents on the right children on the inside and we really
Take control of the space so and this is true of all the of all the bike buses that I’ve I’ve seen um holding traffic um stopping um cars at Junctions and and giving the children the priority on the road um and it’s it’s an amazing um it’s
An amazing thing to be a to be a part of um I I don’t think again this is an easy crowd the benefits of the bike bus I think are really obvious and really um profound there’s loads of benefits to cycling to school um and and walking to
School I think that’s that’s added to when you create a community and you create a group of people that you can have that shared experience with um and one of the most you know when we talk to parents you know all the schools that that we’re working with about what they
What they think of bike bus as everybody says community and that’s the that’s the single biggest kind of factor of it and it’s a really great place to meet new parents it’s a really great place to share cycling tips um and you know there’s lots and lots of Positive Vibes
That surround getting together as a group and cycling to school together um and and yeah like I say it’s really really powerful um the the my kind of um what one of the things I’d really like to land especially with this group is bike bus is um well for me it’s it’s
So powerful it’s so enjoyable it’s it’s it’s a huge um it’s a huge positive to my week like I love the fact that I can get up on any day and go and join a group of children and cycle to school with them for the for the for the bike Worster
Group as well it’s it’s actually given as a real step change in terms of our ability to engage with the community because we can say to anybody who we’re who we’re speaking to whether that’s a parent whether that’s a local politician if it’s a business or the police or
Whoever you can meet somebody from bike Worster on any day of the week and we will you know just if you want to talk to us just come along to a bike bus um and that has been in terms of giving the the organization in the group and
Opportunity to kind of scale it’s been really really um helpful useful it’s a massive part of our identity locally um and it’s a really positive um activity to to for people to get behind um you know with a group that help children cycle to school and it’s and it’s and
For the for the organization and for our volunteers it’s it’s really um it’s helped us go to the next level in the last 18 months um it’s very hard to argue with um which in uh wer sh which is where the County Council is heavily conservative um you know that we we you
Know the conservatives support us um because we’re solving congestion in the school run and and that’s really really powerful so get out and start a bike bus if you haven’t already um get and get out and do it it’s the best thing I’ve ever done um it’s it’s absolutely
Amazing I’m such an evangelist for it um you know find a school a primary school aged family and say I want to start a bike bus and and get a group together doesn’t have to be very big um you don’t need to have a long route to start um
You know and the thing that the the the thing that we found that works and that you need to unlock it is find somebody a parent and a group of volunteers who can be there every week and do it once a week for for a consistent period of time
And that is the secret to success it will grow um and we’ve seen that happen across the bike bus routs that we’ve got in the city um it’s it’s really amazing what you can do and with just a bit of consistency and just being just saying
To people we will be here at this time on a Friday even if no one turns up and and and people do because you create that space for them um I’ve just I’ve got a few slides about um stuff that we’ve learned a few lessons um we found that um I mean this
Is different I know heish is here from Cardiff this is different in in Cardiff but um for us all of our bite buses are led by parents and other grown-ups are volunteers not teachers we found it really hard to get teachers to join in it’s a bad time of the day for them
Typically like the school run because they’re setting up their classrooms um but we’ve had brilliant support from schools in other ways whether that’s newsletters giving out prizes and certificates and assemblies leaflets that’s really crucial for for getting the word out and even though I talk about bike bus constantly at my school
And I can’t get through the playground without meeting a bike Bus child there’s still parents at our school that don’t know what it is and haven’t heard of it um so that you know that constant message is is really really important um arriving at the school is the most the
Most significant point of of tension potentially and for a bike bus so that’s the bit where we’ve had probably the most iteration the most evolution of the bike buses and because obviously you’ve got a group of children arriving on mass by bike sometimes with vehicle traffic
As well and and also lots of pedestrian traffic so that’s something that that that we we’ve thought that carefully um safety on the road um felt really important to us uh when we first started um but actually you know 12 months on we you know what’s really
Interesting is that all of our parents a lot of whom started out you know started with us as quite nervous cyclists um we don’t we don’t really you know everybody basically Marshals um the whole group um when we first started there was a few people who felt a able to stop traffic
Or tell people what to do whereas now with our groups that is really self-organizing we know the junction layouts we know um you know as a as a collective group of adults we know who needs to be where and we almost you know we can almost do it without without much
Um communication so that’s really interesting um you know I’ve talked about organized formation I’ve talked about um you know we we offer as as little space as is legal to to drivers um because that really slows traffic down um and makes everybody feel safer um she comments on inclusivity um again
This is this has been something that learning about not all parents can participate um we’ve got one bike bus in in um the west of the city which is in a a less um affluent area and that’s that’s a completely different um cat of fish and we fact we’ve changed our model
Quite a lot there to try and support that Community um some parents will work some people don’t have access to bikes some children or adults can find like a large group quite overwhelming so you know especially I know the the Glasgow group is really big and actually having
Like people who are designated as welcoming new people to the group and making sure that the children are kind of brought into the group um you know slowly and gently has been really really important um just a few comments on sa guarding our buses now vary between um so most of
Them we ask parents to come along um some of with there’s one which I mentioned where we’re we have a a significant number of volunteers sufficient number of volunteers where we can where we feel and the route is quite low traffic where we feel able to invite children without their parents and but
Obviously that has um safeguarding um implications um again something to consider around um social media permission we take quite a lot of care about um what information we share about our routs like starting time and um maps and things like that um from a safeguarding perspective so all of that
Is um you know goes into our risk assessment and sits in a document all of that by the way is sharable so if if you want any of our um material most of which I’ve hacked from other people um you know borrowed a lot from um uh
Scotland Cycling group so I can share um all of it and SSR has also got loads of resources as well so and there’s lots and lots of stuff available if you want to do the paperwork um which I think is useful we did a lot of it for the first
One and then for the rest we haven’t bothered with any of that we’ve just got on our bikes and and and set up um the riding formation I think is pretty standard and then here’s a bunch of I’ve just got a few examples here of um of
Promotional material that we use to to promote the bike bus um giving people really clear instructions about when it starts who to get in touch with what the roots are um the various meeting points we’ve got a WhatsApp Group which has got a QR code where people can scan it and
Join the WhatsApp group and then we we publish messages um every week to say who’s who’s coming you know let us know if you need us to wait for you at any point and then we also share our live location on thatou on that group when we
Set off so people can catch up with us if they need to um and that contact details how was that how are we doing for time I think that was almost bang on um yeah that was great Rob cool all right um yeah any questions Robin I’m answer end the presentation um
Yeah sure although I guess the pictures are brilliant I really like pictures and uh yeah we had some good questions some some of which I think you answered very shortly after people answer them so there’s one about safeguarding which I think you you described quite quite well
There’s one about whether you did it in the morning or the afternoon but I think you it looked as if you just did it on Friday mornings but the buses yeah so um when we first started we were we offered a return Journey as well so morning and
Afternoon um at at our school we found that um there was very little um appetite for the return Journey um because of the of where so schools in Wester primary schools in wer don’t have catchment areas so you can live wherever and go to the school so actually that
Means that the population is quite spread out um right so that means that people travel quite significant distances to join the bike bus route which in the morning is kind of okay but in the afternoon people people don’t um people tend tended not to um so we haven’t and actually so shorelands in
Glasgow which is like they get like 50 60 people have only just started doing the return Journey um so um so yeah so we don’t offer at the moment we don’t offer a bike bus home and right right so it feels like it’s almost a a kind of special treat on a
Friday um yeah go to go to the park and then we get to do the bike bus yeah and and it’s really for us um we only offer the we only um we only suggest once a week um because it’s it’s not meant to be a substitute for safe
Infrastructure it’s meant to prove the demand for it and also there like it’s not so much for the younger children because they wouldn’t be cycling on a company anyway but when we have older children there certainly consideration that we don’t necessarily want them to be dependent on create like their Cordon
The safe Cordon that we create and so that’s um uh yeah that’s that’s that’s a consideration so we wouldn’t do one every day of the week um and and have you mve build us a cycle Lane please yes yes well that sounds good to me have you moved any from being
Essentially bike wor run to being totally parent run so the model that we have which I think is really important is there are all all of them apart from one which we which which is the D green one the one in the west of the city they’re all
Parent l so our model is find the parent who’s going to commit to it every week and some of those people are bike Worster people but they’re acting in their capacity as a parent um so they are the face of that bike bus and they most of them now have enough parents who
Know what they’re doing that if bike was to volunteers didn’t go to bike bus they they run it themselves and and they you know there’s a few bike wor to people who who rock around in the mornings and you know go for a bike ride basically um
Which is helpful but actually um not necessary there’s there’s one which we tried to start as a parent Le um which is our parent LE model but we’ve actually adopted it and we’re running it as a as a um weekly because of um cycling in the area is really low lots
Of people have jobs at that time time of day it’s a super dense um neighborhood so PE children are walking or cycling to school by themselves anyway so we’re just there to basically say you know bit pie Piper come along with us and we put a massive speaker on our bike and which
Um is crucial um by uh massive speaker and Flags uh two bits of really crucial equipment um interesting and and then um sorry I not sure who ask this uh question but there’s some good questions about um approach to risk assessments any particular permissions you’ve had to get from the local
Authority for example and insurance and so we will I mean the bike wora I mean someone’s referenced it about the context with cycling and wer which has been really it’s it’s a tough old um city and and county for cycling um so we don’t ask for the permission um
If we’re feeling generous we might ask for forgiveness but even that we don’t really care about um so um uh so so yeah so we didn’t even we just told we just told people this is what we’re doing um our our um position on my position and
This extends to the B was to folks some of whom are here is that um we don’t because it’s parent L it’s b b they’re not b w to run we just we’re just supporting the parents disciple to to school with with as a group so we don’t
You don’t need insurance for that it’s just people cycling to school together um so that’s so that’s the and it for the dines green one we use our cycling UK Affiliated Insurance um because that’s more of a that that is a Leed ride by bike W to volunteers because we
Have two parents and um if if we weren’t there they wouldn’t do it whereas with the others if bik wor weren’t there those rides would happen um so yeah so no permission and no insurance either um and and that’s and we tell the parents that we tell them um you know they’re
Technically illegal by the highways act um because we have scooters on the road and balance bikes and stabilizers which I don’t think are technically roadworthy but we just scoop everybody up and all go together anyway um so yeah just do it it’s worth
It I like it I like it and Ruth has a couple of good questions here um one is um the ratio of boys and girls and um what your helmet policy is um so on helmet policy we don’t have one um you get lot of support here um yeah
Yeah um no we don’t have one it’s it’s a it’s a Parents Choice and we don’t talk about it ever um so that’s that’s helmets and ratio of boys to girls is hard for me to say because it’s not a a figure that I pay loads of attention to
Um however um the figure the the kind of um uh that’s for children um and I but it’s broadly even it’s not like not all boys or all girls it’s like a healthy mix across the buses the thing that is um really compelling about again our companion but also B in general is
Especially for some of our buses it’s overwhelmingly female adults who lead the buses some you know some of the bite buses are led by you know Fe like the the lead parent is is a woman a man um and in some instances all of the adults
On the bus are all women um which for a cycling event is is unusual unfortunately um but you know that you know that’s um you know that’s part of the role they have in their households and um and they’re cycling to school um and it is um and my wife’s here
Somewhere Katie unmut and um you know talk about this because I know this is something you’re really passionate about and but like we have mums coming on the bike bus and it’s amazing environment for women um who are nervous about cycling to cycle and they do it once a
Week in a massive group where they don’t they don’t have to worry about traffic um and then they turn that into their commute or they they you know they they get a new bike and it’s and it’s absolutely um it’s absolutely brilliant and for getting people on back on adults
Back on Wheels um so yeah it’s um it’s it’s really really great to see um and we’ve I mean it ties in with other activities that we’re doing like we have a bike recycling scheme which which has got off the ground in the last 12 months
So we’re able to give people bikes to use on bike Buss we had one in the last few weeks where some we’ve given somebody a bike so they could join bike bus they’ve just bought a new bike you know which 12 months ago they would
Never have done and we like oh so can we have our one back and they’re like no no I want two bikes because they do they do different things you know one’s a mounted bike one’s a commuter and we’re like oh you are
A n one n plus one so yeah so that was um yeah it’s there’s just so many great stories that come out of it from a campaigning perspective but um just from a um you know what what are we all about it’s um it’s a really really good little
Um gateway drug into cycling um it’s proper stealth mode and the best thing is is nobody can really complain about it because we’re just we’re just helping kids to cycle to school it’s so it’s so joyous yeah but that’s really inspiring Rob that’s absolutely fantastic any any
Other um questions feels like we’re all raring to go with bike buses we we’ve had some in Oxford that have um come and gone I think it’s mostly the ltns have actually helped a huge increase in cycling to school but they mostly enabled parents to go with their kids um
Rather than the formation of bike buses um be interested in if anyone’s got any um other bike buses any other questions for Rob any other experiences they wish to share with a group no I just I just want to can I just jump in very quickly um partly
Because Rob mentioned earlier um this is my first act travel calf attendance and part of the reason is I wanted to come and join and uh support Rob with uh the the great work he’s been doing uh great presentation Rob well done um and uh I also just wanted just to highlight
Something that I just dropped in the chat is that um I helped to coordinate um bike buses in Wales in particular and I also um a part of a network of uh coordinators um who help schools parents uh anyone interested in setting up uh bike buses across the UK as part of the
Suan Friday’s uh bike bus project um again I just dro the the link in the chat um and um again there’s anyone outside of Worcester who’s who’s inspired by what Rob has said and you know wants some support um feel free to um you know look at the
The Friday’s bike bus resources or just drop us a line because the chances are we may be able to help you in one way or another to to get more bike buses going across the country and as Rob has highlighted um they are amazing experiences and they really um Advocate
Uh change on the journey to school uh both for young people and for parents and um I can say firsthand that you know um once you know bike bus is started the impacts it can make on the journey to school and you know reduce all the things like congestion all those sort of
Traffic issues it really helps to dissipate those and also like the benefits that Rob has said you know like active healthy children um so there’s you know there’s no there’s no downsides really to to getting a bike bus going um but some people just need a little bit
Of support to to get going and uh and once they’re going you know there’s no looking back so um I just say that’s all I just wanted to say and I just wanted to say thank you to Rob for you know getting out there putting the word out
And uh sharing uh his experiences with B buses with um this group thank you Amish that was a really good um uh uh great to hear that support for it and um I think as well as the sustrans information which is really good about starting a bike bus uh I think cycl UK
Have come out with um something as well which I should probably know a bit more about um uh let me go to Esther oh sorry Rob did you want to respond to Amish I know only on the only on the susr and the cycling UK guidance like um that is
The the those two certainly the sus Chan guide is brilliant it’s really really comprehensive it gives you all the potential instructions that you could possibly want to have in setting up bik bus and everything to consider and I think if ID had that when I was thinking
About setting up a bike bus I would have felt that that I was there was loads of stuff that I needed to do um and like you know people have been asked about insurance and helmets and and all this stuff and I I I think it’s brilliant
That it’s there I think it’s a fantastic document I would encourage you just to find that group of people who can start who can be that little germ those five kids on balance bikes or whatever and get them riding and rather than you know spending ages coming up with a plan um
Because it grows like we started we did monthly we did weekly for one school with one route then it went to three routs and then we’ve got four schools in the area now we’ve got eight schools in the city and we’re looking for the next
Five um so that that you know just get out there and do it um rather than be put off by paper right yeah yeah that’s why a viice we’ve had on other things don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the uh good get out and do it fantastic and Esther sorry
To keep you hang on there you have a question or comment Esther from Burmingham No hello yep y can hear you now sorry I’m on my phone and I don’t know how to zoom on my phone please firstly uh sorry about the traffic noise um I’m pulled over uh on the way to collect my son uh so firstly uh just to say uh that’s really
Inspiring about the bike buses and a new bike buser started in Birmingham quite recently um the person who started that I do know um but I’m definitely inspired to go and help out on a Friday and not feel weird um if I can do that in the
Next couple of weeks then I’m definitely going to go and have a gy um the other question that I really wanted to ask is did you get into any schools that you didn’t already have a connection with and how did you engage with them I’ve
Been trying to set up a walking bus with a school a head teacher’s very keen but the that the parents are like nowhere to be seen except in their cars um and yeah we’re struggling on the engagement side um it’s a good question so um certainly the first few schools would
Came via um uh people who are adjacent to B wer read they’re already actively engaged um we we have there’s there’s two other avenues that have helped recruitment if they want to call it that one is um kidical Mass so we have a you know our bike bus schools form a big
Part of our kidical mass group but then we have other people from other schools and we talk about bike bus a lot like the kidical mass events and you know we’ve gained two or three schools just from parents going hang on a second I’ve seen this in the newspaper you’re
Bike bus aren’t you can can we talk about my school I really want to do it so kidical mass is a really good um was a really good kind of um you know uh uh route for us the other thing that the other Avenue um is via our local
Counselors so we had one school introduced to us by a local counsel who said that they that um that they wanted to to see if it would work at that school um so that that again also really really helped obviously they’re that Community member they have that
Credibility so um and and B W have got um a good relationship um with a lot of local couns so that helps um I could say more on that and we’ve got we’ve got a we had a meeting actually yesterday about what we would what we’re going to do next to try and
Get more schools involved um which which um you know will involve some funding applications maybe some Big B Revival money if we can if we can get access to it um which is a bit more significant um and less organic and but we feel like we’re that’s where we are with with the
Schools that we’ve got so far we we have had lots of unsuccessful attempts where we’ve got a parents said oh I really want to do this I’m like great tell us when and when will be there we help you do it and then they haven’t bothered for
Whatever reason so it does take it really does take that one parent is going to be like I’m going to be there every week for six weeks Come What May and yeah it really that’s what it that’s what it takes so um yeah excellent right thank you very much great good question good
Question right let’s um look to wrapping up now there’s a a few other really good comments in the chat I particularly like there’s a couple of um entries in there one one suggesting a a park and stride scheme where you get people to kind of
Drop off kids a little bit away from the school and then walk to school maybe that’s a the the kind of Entry drug version another comment about getting kids involved early when they’re young um so that this is cycling is a normal thing for them when they’re old um I
Think most of the kids in your picture would qualify for that Rob and uh I think you you responded to a question about um uh you’ve been on the one show with this is that right yeah so only B was only a small SE segment um I think it was the
Folks in pool that um did a big uh had a big segment on the one show and then they um and then they cut to lots of clips from around the country um that I think is on WE I’ve got the copy of the video so I’ll find it and if it’s not
Already on our Twitter page then I’ll I’ll find it and tweet it again and hope that Twitter copyright is not um hot enough to take it down a link to BBC um yeah on I play or or something oh okay I’ll try I’ll try and find it we’ll
Try and be quick okay right well that’s really fantastic Rob thanks so much for coming along and sharing that with us that was um super inspiring just ex exactly the kind of of thing we want to hear so it’s um 10 to6 and um I think I am going to use
That opportunity of being a bit early to talk a bit about we talking about roog casualties as a which is a never a easy topic um but um the uh uh I’m going to talk about the data uh connected with that because I have been uh the 2022 data was
Released in um the end of September September the 30th and I’ve been looking into this I’ve been meaning to see if I could replicate the um what kill was whom analysis uh for some time um right let me um bring this up see if I’m as competent as screen
Sharing as uh Rob has proved can you see my screen there hopefully yep um and uh probably many of you will be familiar with this um which is the analysis that uh I just learned that uh uh uh good friend uh Bob did um when he was at uh working
For the Parliamentary advisory committee on transport safety Bob Davis uh who is uh with us there yes hello Bob um which um not only thinks about the rod user killed which is the more common view uh but also the other vehicle involved in that Collision so this gives you a very
Quick visual view of how often cars are involved in collisions with uh pedestrians for example or how many car crashes are in fact with no other vehicle involved so it’s it’s a really powerful tool and by um by downloading some of the open data available from the
DFT um and uh putting it into a big spreadsheet because I’m still I’m afraid a spreadsheet guy not a database guy I’ve been able to um replicate that um but with the 2022 data and in fact import all the years uh back to 2018 uh so this is the uh 2022
Version and I I’ve checked my um 2019 data versus the original it’s a it’s a few off which I think is differences in classification of things like minib buses and uh so forth um but it’s it’s only about three off in some of the biggest bubbles so really very close and
It’s of course you you won’t be surprised it’s a very similar picture um uh not not that much as uh changed um but it brings it up to date so we’ve got a um a great uh uh it’s good to update it but then I’ve also been able to put in um
Filters uh so you can put in a local area um so was l in Oxfordshire so uh you can put in oxwood here and it will just filter out uh those in fact we only had 24 deaths on the roads in Oxford sh I’m sry only 24 that’s a shockingly big
Number but um you I’ve set it so you can choose the serious injuries or all of the casualties so that even if you’re in a small Geographic number area you can get a large enough sample to make it interesting um and it’s got all of the districts it’s got all of the transport
Authorities and because I wanted to send it to our police force it’s got all of the police forces um that you can use and I’ll share the link L um where you can download my 400 megabyte spreadsheet if you want to do your own um so that’s
Quite good so geography you can do the years back to 2018 you can do the severities and if you’re particularly nerdy you can go into the the data is all just in three spreadsheets one’s Vehicles one’s collisions and one is um the casualties and you you can just
Filter the data by local authorities or by severity or whatever and and Export the data and do things um uh with it um and Bob you got to question your point I um uh yeah okay couple of points first of all I I never worked for packs okay
And sorry I thought that was my interpretation of what you said no no what happens is that um actually rdrf was set up kind of in contradistinction to pacts but um they did uh you know just to show how broadminded we are I did accept uh that I would work with
Them if we were on the same page and we actually did and as a consequence of that um The Hills Home Metric is actually on the official statistics do have a read of my post which I’ve put in the chat um now a thing which I don’t think is in your
Representations is that what you do if you do this properly is you get to see how relatively dangerous to other people the different modes are and it always comes up um even in uh urban areas with hgvs at the top then motorcyclists then cars then Cycles
But that has to be done where you have an index of the amount of Miles done by each mode now I don’t think you’ve actually got that in yours there no because you can’t actually you can’t actually um uh as Kate is just saying in the chat travel distances are not
Accurately recorded So always hard to get reliable rates um and at the you know when you’ve tried to get granular and come down to the uh level uh you’re not going to be able to do that um so you’re just kind of getting involved at in terms of which is
The other vehicle and a lot of people will always another point is a lot of people will always complain that it’s the other vehicle involved it doesn’t mean that they are at fault necessarily um and you do have to be aware of that but that there’s still no
Reason why you shouldn’t look at them as the problem in my view um but it’s worthwhile sorting your way through this and it’s important because it’s about what we mean by the word dangerous uh so for example if somebody comes up to you and says all my
Son’s thinking of riding a motorcycle is it dangerous it is an exceptionally hazardous form of Transport per per mile travel per journey travel by any matric it’s the most hazardous form of transfer but the way I answer it is I say I’m interested in how they’re involved in
Hurting other people okay and uh motorcyclists are heavily involved in other people pedestrians and cyclists getting hurt or killed in urban areas um uh not so much outside urban areas because there not so many pedestrians or cyclists there to get H killed but it it
Is the kind of way we need to be talking about things um and so although ideally you should be getting this rate per mile traveled um at least you’ve got something here about what you need to be looking at and that is actually it should be remembered is
Actually related to a page in the official statistics so do please read the article that I’ve got there and also in that LT article I’ve got the a graphic shown uh up there as well which is again based on the national statistics yeah yeah totally yeah thanks
Bob that’s um I’m totally right on the the vehicle mileage rate and I I think that might be possible on a national basis but not on a local basis the other the other thing I discovered with this so as I dug closer and I was looking at in advance of our ltn decision
What the impact was on what had happen in uh previous ltns in C and Oxford and you people here might be familiar with crash map and bike data as two sources of collision mapping that is available and um currently crash map doesn’t have 2022 data and bike data
Does um but I I compare I ended up comparing 2021 between them and I found that Crush map had more points on it than bike data did and digging into them I discovered that bike data was not showing motorcycle crashes and maybe it’s not showing hgv one it’s got three
Filters where you can select cyclists um pedestrians and car occupants um and I suspect what happens is it’s not selecting motorcyclists and maybe bus and hdv occupants apologies this is getting technical so I’ve let cycle Street Skies great guys so I’ve let them know this and maybe they can add another
Filter um but because I’ve got the raw data and I was desperate to get a 2022 map I took the data um uh from Excel for Oxfordshire um saved it as a CSV and there’s an open mapping tool called umap um where you can just paste in a bunch
Of data it recognizes things have got latitude and longitude on the columns and then it puts points on a open street map for you so in about 15 minutes I managed to create my own very basic crash map um which I was then able to show how few collisions there were on a
Very small sample for the ltn in CI compared to when it was before an ltn which was quite useful in making the case for our local ltns and in fact the rate had roughly halfed which was um quite consistent with um aldrid and Goodman and CO’s um analysis of 72 ltns
Which I will confess was D done on a much larger sample a much more rigorous uh basis but it’s nice to know that we are reasonably consistent uh so that was uh my little uh analysis uh fix for the last week um but I’ll put the link to the giant
Spreadsheet um for data gurus who want to uh play with it and use it as a local tool with exactly the caveat that Bob um mentioned Mark you have a question well you I think you just answered it actually it was about um downloading the data and mapping it um
There are lots of other tools that are available but um as I’m working on the East talks Min Holland it’ be quite interesting to to use your data straight away anyway so um it’ll be going straight back to Oxford in a few weeks time so you’re
Helping you helping me help you as you it’s my gift to the community which also happens to be almost by my community I live in a slightly different place just o but um hold on right okay um right we are with that we are done unless there’s any other questions um thank
You I shall say to uh Rob for being our speaker tonight um uh that was a really good uh presentation and I hope my delve into data has provided a bit of contrast to the joy of young kids riding around and having a great time on a bike bus um and
Uh next week uh we have Neil Guthrie who is talking about rural schemes um oh I see Ruth is a put hand up we’ll go to Ruth first and next week also we have ranty Highway and uh mark is back uh to tell us about one of his
Good the Bad and the interesting um the week after that the 31st uh we will have off for a halterm Break um and um uh Ruth uh what would you like to say before we go sorry very very quickly anyone who is in London on Thursday transport Action Network are
Taking somebody to court I will know and they’ve asked people turn up at quarter to one preferably not dressed like cyclists um to kind of show a presence because there there’s going to be a court hearing at the Royal court of justice um about stopping the cuts to
Walking and cycling so um they’re bring your case it says not to share on social media but we’re not this isn’t social media um I’ve tried to share it amongst all my walking and cycling groups but as say if anyone does live in London and they want to turn up outside the RO
Courts of Justice half 12ish for a photo opportunity and to show how much we care about these Cuts thank you for letting me speak 12:30 on Thursday Thursday th Thursday Thursday World courts this Thursday yes thank you thank you very much not this not this Thursday it is this
Thursday well well the email I’ve got from them says the 26th of October oh God Mar which which um came from um Chris Ralph Roger and all at tan so it says the 26th of October so thank goodness you’re here either either I’m wrong or you’re wrong I mean
I’m not well maybe highly likely to be wrong you’re absolutely right and I canceled my flu jab for nothing oh well don’t turn up on the 19th because sorry people okay so 26 and go thank you for the extra warning thank you we’ll bring up next week what a
Fantastic thing um to yeah Ian brilliant for the transport Action Network to taking the government to task on the and do donate they’re still looking for donation so anyone can really please go online and donate they really would like some money right transport Action Network pleas from them thank you we love the
Transport Action Network uh good right in which case um we shall uh close yeah thank you everyone who’s participated thank you again to Rob and we’ll see you next week at the Active travel Cafe with more news more speakers more active travel and enjoy your walking wheeling and cycling in the week
Until then thank you and byebye bye stop recording