Not everyone was a thundering 500 Class MX bike or monster trail bike, sometimes you want enough to get the job done and no more
This time it’s five classic middleweight dirt bikes of the 1970s has to be said that not everybody wants the biggest baddest dirt bike every time they go out sometimes you want something that’s easily controllable more manageable and of course cheaper to buy and so here are five classic middleweight dirt bikes the Kawasaki k175 Kawasaki produced a broad range of
Trail bikes during the 1970s from Humble 50s or they up to Mighty 500s perhaps one of their best remembered however is the k175 now the k175 was introduced in 1976 and was a direct descendant of the earlier 175 F series The kaaki had been producing since the F1 had appeared way back in
1966 the engine was of course an aircooled two-stroke but had rot valve induction and that’s slightly over square dimensions of 61x 58.8 and of course there was super lube automatic oiling which pumped oil directly into the crank case rather than into the flow of gas rather like other
Two strokes did at the time it was an excellent 26 mm Mauna carburetor fitted and the bike used Magneto ignition which was very reliable although the K was actually produced in 1976 it was based around earli machines and Kawasaki would claim a very healthy 21 horsepower at 7,500 RPM for the motor
But earlier test had actually shown around 15 horsepower at the back wheel on the dyno this is still a pretty healthy figure for a 175 after all and in fact in real terms was pretty close to what you were getting from a lot of the fourstroke in particular 250s and
Even Kawasaki’s own larger k250 only outperformed the engine slightly and that bite was quite a bit heavier and this is where the little 175 really sha the bike weighed in at around £250 or 115 kilos so it was very light and very Nimble if you got it stuck somewhere it
Was easy to extract the things and of course the lightweight also meant that the bike made the very best of the performance that was available so acceleration was actually very good for such a small bike so Nimble good acceleration easy to handle and easy to
Pull out of a potle and it was reliable too there’s a lot to love about about the K so over all you have to say the K 175 do you really need to buy anything bigger and I suspect that if you’re a guy in the 1970s looking for a trail
Bike that’s very much the question you’d be asking yourself the Maha DT 175 and 250 models for the 1970s yamaho were very no for their off-road bikes but not everybody wanted something like this 360 some people just wanted something a bit more accessible and with that market
Very much in mind in 1971 Yamaha introduced the dt250 and its smaller 175 staem and just like the Kawasaki before the bike was an evolution of a previous model in this case the 1968 dt1 engine of course was a single cylinder eiro two-stroke of either 246 or 171 CC’s
With the 250 having B and stroke dimensions of 70x 64 and the 175 having dimensions of 66x 50 am would claim a peak of 23 horsepower at 6,000 RPM for the 250 and 16.3 at 7,000 horsepower for the 175 the bikes were broadly of course very much the same although the 175 had
A six-speed gearbox compared to the 250s 5-speed as you would hope both bikes were commendably light adding to the agility and the acceleration and in fact the on 7 5 was even lighter than the Kawasaki before it breing for a very good all round package the make 250
Nuro German company Mak has started out producing cars but has switched postwar to producing these very nice scooters for later moving on to off-roaders and then Duro machine the gs250 would enjoy a very long production run between 1964 and 1979 however given mako’s pioneering attitude towards the development of the
Machines you can rest assur that the bike in 1979 was a very different beast from that first introduced in ‘ 64 and these later ’70s machines would of course enjoy the use of the long travel suspension system that moo had pioneered the engine used was a fairly standard
Single cylinder air called piston ported two-stroke unit that in base form only claimed around 17 horsepower although it could be tuned and was often tuned to give quite a bit more and compression even at standard trim was an High waterink 15.5 to1 so whatever horsepower your particular version was actually
Getting was then fed for a 5-speed gearbox to the 18in rear wheel but it’s when you begin to look at this machine dimensionally you realize what a really purposeful bit of Kit this is the seat height is 960 mm hopefully it sinks down quite a bit when you put your butt on it
And there’s a ground clearance of 384 mm too factoring its lightweight of 109 kilos and you’ve got yourself a serious bit of Kit indeed The Honda CR250 Elenor now I use the Elenor name here because it’s instantly recognizable to American viewers although for as Brits it’s a name that doesn’t tend to associate with the c we often just call it the CR although of course anybody that’s Seen On Any Sunday will instantly
Make the link to the Elenor Grand Prix which is very much shown in the movie now with a few notable exceptions Honda is essentially a fourstroke manufacturer both in production bikes and in their competition TT road races however when they wanted to go Offroad they knew they
Would need to develop a two-stroke so in 1973 they introduced the alzor with its Canam mx250 Canadian based manufacturer Canam began to produce motorcross bikes of 175 and 125cc capacities in 1973 but in 74 they would introduce their first 250 with an updated version the MX3 arriving in 1976 and although a great deal of work had been done to improve the suspension set upon the previous model
The MX3 became known as the Black Widow because of its ill handling this is mainly due to a rather flimsy frame design Desir to a smaller bike trying to contain a 35 horsepower monster of an engine and in fact Jeff Smith former motorcross world champion and Cam’s
Development Rider DED the bike out and declared it frankly unridable thankfully by the end of the70s and the arrival of the MX6 model Canam had tamed the woeful handling beast and Canam would finally have a competent chassis to cope with its excellent motor however a 1982
Production was moved to the UK and was taken over by Armstrong CCM bringing to an end medium manufacturer what collections of bikes would you like to see us do a video on maybe you got a bike that can use for a test ride either way get in touch
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20 Comments
I love these old bikes! I had the Yamaha 360, it was wild on dirt! A 1971 I believe. I also had 2 IT175s, a 1977 and an '82. I wish I still had all 3!
Great collection of old 2-stroke bikes. Love the sound that they made. Brings back so many fond memories. I had a 1983 Kawasaki KX 250 MX bike that would scare you to death when you hit the pipe in the RPM band. What a wild ride. I miss all of my bikes. Take care. Cheers
I own a 1972 DT3 250 Enduro in Competition Green, it won best Japanese bike at the Scottish motorcycle show last year. Unfortunately it melted it's piston due to a suspected weak mixture. It will live again!
I owned a DT250 for a while back in the 80s,I was never over impressed with it though ,it was OK in the dirt but a bit slow on the road as I remember 👍
I spent some time with both the DT175 and the DT250, and I actually liked the 175 the better. The Danish army bought the DT250, but it lasted just a short while, ´cause NATO made their one-fuel policy.
Really miss my Hodaka Super Combat 125! Great fun!
How about the yammie sr500?
8 always lusted after a DT175 or 250. I met a off roading bike club in Machynlleth. Most were Triumph twins and mud so thicknit was imposible to say where the bike ended and the rider started. Amungst them was a DT 175. It was easily able to keep up with the bigger bikes and far easier to haul out of the mud I was told. Lol. Judging by how much cleaner it was than anynof the other bikes I think it must have been in front most of the day. They had a quivk liquid Lunch and then set off again and I saw them going up some huge mointian tracks shortly after leaving the White Lion Pub. . Great memories.
One friend of mine owned a KE125. Another, later on a DT 175. So I do remember those bike pretty well. My 1st bikes was a Suzuki GT125, named the hornet. Great memories! I had been thinking of buying a Harley-Davidson 175 or 250 (former Aermacchi.). Glad, I never did. The reliability of those turned out, to put it mildly: questionable.
As a teen I was often interested in the Honda XL250, nobody in our gang had one. Plenty of Yam DT's & Suzuki TS's.
I'll have the little red rocket, please. You don't have to wrap it, i'll wheelie it home😊
Most RICULOUS mix of presented bikes!
2 stroke dirt bikes of any size scare me 😂 especially (at 3:43) the 175cc Yamaha making 7000 horsepower!!! 😉 I definitely think in the real world at least 75% of riders would benefit from a 250 cc or smaller bike because they could use all of the power the bike had more efficiently at their skill level. Most people buy the biggest bike they can afford and end up putt putting around using a small part of the bike's potential.
Just FYI the Yamaha and Kawasaki are not full fledged dirt bikes , they're considered Dual Sport because they're street legal.
Elsinore.
That was brilliant and took me back, I had one of the Ke175 that colour, loved it. Also later a dt175 twin shock and dt175mx preferred the look of the twin shock but the power of the mx out of the 2 yamahas…hreat video keep them coming…
I was working at a large company and a guy I knew walked up to me and said "I hear you like motorcycles." "Yes I do" I replied. He said I have a bike I need to sell. It's taking up space that I need (it was in his truck) and I need the space. I had a garage full of bikes and I didn't need another one. It was a faded red late model Yamaha DT175. I said, "I just don't need it and all I could give you for it is $50." He said "sold!" It turned out to be a great little bike once I got it cleaned up and the automatic oiler cleaned and working. I kind of wish I had it now.
The DT 250mx was too heavy, they did a 400cc version which was the same size but a harsh engine.
I preferred the DT 175mx. Mine was stolen from outside work in 1985. Apparently if you disconnected one wire behind the side panel you could start them without the key.
Thanks for the video, I like seeing the old bikes.
The smaller bike was better off road because it was lighter but the bigger machines 250cc and up had better power and torque for comfortable on road use.
had 3 trail bikes starting in 1978 with a ts185 suzuki, tough as old boots, then a ke175b3 after that, it was nice but i always found it, how can i say it, a bit thin to sit on and ride, in 1981 i bought a dt250mx new, loved it, owned it for about 7 years, it only went for the lure of kawasaki zed's as was typical of the time, nowadays i mostly ride a xt600e, always preferred trail bikes, you can keep your zed's and harleys, as for the dt, i checked, its still alive somewhere, PHH 395X where are you now.