The Christmas period is over and United end up with 4 points from a possible twelve – small signs of progress, but it’s still going to be a battle to avoid an instant return to League Two this season.

In this episode of The Brunton Bugle, Lee and Mike reflect on the 2-0 defeat at Wigan infront of over 4,000 travelling Blues, and the New Year’s Day 2-1 home win against Port Vale. Are there a few signs that United have what it takes to avoid the drop?

And if so, will the new additions make a difference? We discuss the three first signings of the window, and the departure of loanee Luke Plange after his half season spell came to an end.

Then there’s a look ahead to what will be a huge tie against Exeter City in Devon this weekend.We speak to Grecians fan Sam Parks, who give us the lowdown on why they have slumped so badly having been top at one stage in the early weeks of the season.

Alongside those bits, there is a round-up of the news and the usual ex-Blues section.

Your host Lee Rooney is in Liverpool and is joined via the wonders of the internet by Mike Booth in Formby.

You can find us on Twitter @bruntonbugle, Facebook (search for “Brunton Bugle”) and email us with any questions, suggestions and feedback to bruntonbugle@gmail.com.

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Hi I’m Paul Simpson from the football club welcome to the Brunton [Applause] Bugle here we come blue and white and we’re looking good you’ll be in for a fight and we fight pretty good getting goals is our job and we get goals good looking good we are car United hello everyone you’re listening to the brunon Beagle the number one

Place to get your K night fix in the podcast world I’m Lee Rooney and I’m Mike boo a mixed end to the festive period for United as a defeat Wigan is followed up by some New Year Joy at home the port Veil we look back on a disappointing end of 2023 and an

Encouraging start to 2024 before previewing this weekend’s huge Clash of fellow strugglers exit to see yes Mike happy New Year it’s first time I think I’ve seen you since uh and I can actually see you this time can’t it’s our new new system we’re using

Where we we you’re not going to get to see us unfortunately because you really don’t want to see Mike’s uh room that he’s recording in his little dungeon wherever it is but um yeah I mean you could have put some clothes on for this to be honest you know

But you know I’ve got the I’ve got the heting on full blast what can you say um yeah happy New Year Mike Happy New Year to all our listeners as well um glad to have you all with us for 2024 hopefully an exciting 2024 for car United and it’s

Been a busy day today Mike hasn’t it nice of the club to get signing saw before we record you know this is the new era for you isn’t it I it really is a new era under the ptic isn’t it yeah quite incredible quite incredible so we’ll we’ll be discussing them shortly

Also we’ll be looking back on the uh the last two of the festive fixures differing Fortunes in those two games but um certainly an encouraging signs on New Year’s Day against Port Vil and then uh obviously we’ll be looking ahead to the ex City game and we’ve got a chat

With a an ex City fan coming as part of that as well uh just a reminder before we start uh as usual the Pod has been sponsored by the K United Sports Club London Branch this season third season the row they’ve done that they do some fantastic stuff for the club do the

London branch in terms of fundraising for equipment for like the physio team and stuff like that H they also do a lot of stuff for fans going to away games Exiles in terms of arranging travel and uh tickets for games and obviously sort out designated pubs and things like that

You can join them wherever you live in the world if you live in timbuk 2 you can join them if you live in Johannesburg you can join them if you live in um I’m trying to think anywhere else you can think of Mike in the world cre he was joining

Crew if you mention crew in football it just reminds me of that famous flag doesn’t it what is it um oh yeah Bor in crew crew dying yeah crew it’s like yeah not not not not the cheeriest I think it’s fair to say um but yeah so if you want to

Find out about Johnny L just go to their website car branch. org let’s get into the news then Mike do you want to do the transfers first or do you want to do the the discussion about um the incident at the end of the port Vil game I should we

Do the good news first and then maybe go on to the port we’ll get the bad stuff out the way I think all right okay well uh unfortunately you know slightly overshadowing the uh the impressive win of a port Vale on New Year’s Day another incident involving a few of the minority

Of that are in the uh the war Roden this season and last season as well unfortunately they were there as well um this pretty unsavory wasn’t it Mike I think it’s fair to say I mean look yeah when you go to games you give people stick you shout stuff at them it’s a

Joke it’s a bit of fun you know sometimes just trying to put them off what was said to Connor Ripley h i mean part is’s like whether whether we repeat or not but let’s repeat anyway basically someone told him to go kill himself essentially and they did it quite repetitively by all

Accounts um for me that very much is stepping over a line in terms of behavior I don’t know what you think about it Mike but it’s there’s no need for at all it’s just it’s pretty shocking um apparently um Ripley confronted the fan and in fact because

There’s a few people I saw on the message board doubting the veracity of this and saying oh you know just I think there’s a little bit too often some of our fans determined to defend the behavior of some of our other fans and it shouldn’t be defended it just

Shouldn’t and one fans did actually tweet during the game to say it had happened didn’t they they basically said this is this is what’s happened at the game and you blah blah blah so it did happen um the police have looked into it a 13y old boy I’m not sure if he’s come

Forward or he’s been identified but he’s um basically been spoken to by the police I don’t think there’s anything they can really charge him on but it looks like the club have banned him at least for the time being um this is an ongoing issue in the work grow in and I

Feel bad for for Lads like Sunny who’ve done some fantastic stuff Sunny Kirkwood in in the wend in terms of improving the atmosphere and you know the work they did on on the the painting The Crush barriers and stuff like that this is a real let down for them isn’t it yeah

Definitely I mean for me I’ve seen a few people say you know because we’re here all the time it’s only a minority blah blah blah blah and I’ve heard people say oh no but they don’t represent Carla fans but at the same time we keep having these ridiculous issues and if this was

Another club that had had loads of these issues we would be saying well their fans are all knads aren’t they do you know what I mean and it’s our club it’s our fans and there’s been too many kind of one-off incidents now for them to be one-off incidents at the end of the

Day yeah and and I’ve seen a few people say oh no that you know the the good lads in the worker they need to rat them out they need to rat these people out it’s easier said than done when you’re a 15 16 year old to rat out someone else

Who’s done that for me I think the club needs to look a little bit of security there I think they needs to be looking at potentially getting some stewards into B basically be spotters you know you you see them some sometimes the bigger games I think there was Martin H

Was listening to the Pod um he was sending me something on WhatsApp he was showing me I think it was an England game or something like that something it looked like it was at the uh the park of prance maybe in France or somewhere like

That and as a guy whose literal job is there to stand and just watch the crowd and watch for the troublemakers and point them out and and get them out if if it happens it’s come to the point where you might just need that and it’s

Yeah it’s not nice but that’s the harsh reality of it now it’s getting a bit silly how many times this is happening yeah I mean it seems like the response stewards kind of stay away from there CU it I can and I can see the

Other side of it is that they don’t want to kind of um stand yeah standoffish I do see that but there’s been that many issues now they need to just be there basically and you know as soon as someone’s acting up just Chuck them out simple as absolutely some something needs to be

Sorted at some point with that I think it’s fair to say um yeah so there are questions you know it has been mentioned before the potential for stand to be closed for a game which wouldn’t be great if it did happen but it’s it’s it’s a possible option that’s

It’s looking like it’s going to happen but if it carries on because things were thrown at the keeper again at this game and it’s just got to stop really behav like that so we we’ll leave that one there and we’ll move on to the good news

There Mike um and that was the uh freeza magic number today wasn’t it the free signings confirmed a little bit cheeky the third one though for the club to announce um so three were announced the third one we’ll do first it was Luke Armstrong so Luke Armstrong signing was

Officially confirmed as having gone through um Simo was saying there was a couple of issues with the paperwork in terms of how agents fees registered or something that efl or the fa changed their mind something it was ridiculous like that but it was confirmed 3.5e deal

Which is might be one of the longest deals we’ve given actually you think for a long time you out you you you thought first maybe Mark Ellis but it was a two and a half year deal that Mark Ellis when he signed for us wasn’t it I think jayen Harris three years is

Probably the last longest yeah in the past 10 years or so yeah and that I mean you can’t imagine Harris was on a big wage either that’s basically a project one isn’t it and sadly a project that probably looks like it’s not going to work out in the

End um but yeah no an ultimate of the fee but we understand it’s a club record fee and getting tied down for three and a half years it’s it shows the intention of the club Owners now doesn’t it you know to keep assets like that signed to the club for as long as

Possible yeah definitely and I think you know as we sort of develop as a club I think he’ll always have a role to play I think you know right now he’s going to be our Star Striker um but as we look to hopefully you know push on towards the

Championship there’s always a role for a big striker in your squad you know be it bit part or be it whatever so yeah it’s it’s good to have him tied down and I think he’ll always have his uses absolutely uh let’s go on the other two sayings then uh first up one that

Was really rumored quite heavily over the last few days and finally confirmed Harrison Neil is joined from Sheffield United on a two and a half year deal uh no no idea if there’s a fee involved with this we suspect probably not it might be one of those ones where it’s

Like a 50% sell on which is similar what I think what we did with Edmonson wasn’t it basically yeah um yeah really interesting sign of this one it’s the kind of signing we’ll be screaming out for a replacement for khum Gyan um he’s previously had lone Spells at ketering

South End United Barrow uh most impressively and Steven is the season Steven season he didn’t play many games but I think it’s just been a bit unlucky there that Steven who Midfield has done so well he’s just not being able to get a chance there and I think all their

Fans if you look at the comments when he was it was announced he was going back to CH United all really positive about him weren’t they saying oh you know really unlucky all the best of the lad and the guys from the Steven M FC podcast here we obviously have on to

Talk to each season when we play them they were raving about him saying like really really good player when he did play he’s just unlucky that they’re doing so so well he just didn’t get a chance and you retweeted something didn’t you something quite interesting

About this yeah there was um so well I thought initially when he was signed that this was indicative of our new kind of stats based recruitment policy and I hadn’t seen any stats but from what I’ve seen of Neil I thought that that’s what it’ be um because he’s a player that

Wins a lot of tackles wins the ball a lot and yeah this um kind of stats software uh if you Pi him pick him up against Callum guy um Neil won more aerial Jewels more ground Jewels more tackles um better dribbler than guy last season and you know guy was brilliant last

Season so um obviously Neil Neil was playing in a terrible abysmal Barrow team so to to do that playing for them is is only a good thing and it’s good because you know everyone knows how much we miss Callum guy while it’s been out so it’s good to get that replacement in

Early in the window yeah absolutely get getting someone in who can do that role and you you would not be amazed if he started against EX at the weekend would you really in terms of filling that Ro and and the positive there as well is hopefully it’s going to give moxen a

Chance to push forward again and actually do a bit more furor of the pitch because he’s had to do so much defensive work of the last couple of months that you’re not really seeing the best of a play of his are you so with any look that that’ll really free him up

A bit the other Sig is a little bit of a surprise one um Shan grian has joined on I assume it’s green I’m just guessing the prodction I probably should have checked it before he’s joined on loan from Crystal Palace until the end of the season um X behem player he’s featured

At under 19 and under 21 level for the Republic Island he’s a regular third palaces under 21 side in Premier League 2 um seems like a player with a bit of potential bit surprised that we signed a center back but then I suppose a couple

Of years ago when we signed denel Sim it was similar wasn’t it where we like do we need a center back and actually if it’s a player who can improve what you’ve got that’s not necessarily a bad thing is it I think it’s maybe indicative that because Simo has done a

Lot of chop and change in in recent weeks with the formation and this and that and you know obviously we’re going to touch on the port Vil game soon but I think it’s Sim acknowledging all right yeah three at the back is what works it’s what worked last season you know I

Need to stop chopping and changing and we need to have a fixed system and we need to work with it and I would guess that green would be a part of that but for for me as well him bringing him in earlier in the window indicates that you

Know it’s not a panic signing it’s someone that they’ve obviously done the homework on and to me it maybe indicates why Simo had so much patience and persistence with PL in that you know if he was wanting to get green in in January he didn’t want to piss off Crystal Palace if you

Like no I think you have say right there think there’s an indication of you know we want to keep a good relationship going there and it’s the third window in a row that we’ve signed a player on loan from Palace when you look at it Gordon

Plange and then Gan obviously and yeah I think there’s an element of that obviously there’s clearly a good relationship there because I think their Academy manager is um sha Derry isn’t he he’s involved there the very Derry and Dav are very big Pals aren’t they and you know you want to

Keep him happy and you potentially you know if green has a really good lone spell then next season when we’re hopefully be pushing up the right end of the table if we stay up obviously and or if we’re in League two pushing the right end of the table will’ll be able to get

A better quality of loan player from them as well maybe and Palace produc some really good youngsters don’t they so yeah it’s not not a bad Club to have a good relationship with in that sense so interesting to see how Shawn fits into the team um I think mish’s place is

Pretty safe in in the back uh three which I’m presuming I’m going to stick with for a bit now lvll you’d think probably as well so maybe competing with Barkley for that other Center back role at the moment possibly might be the way it’s going I mean you know Barkley

Legend for that goal against Bradford but he hasn’t been that good this season for me I think it’s definitely a a position that has needed strengthen no I think you’re right there I think it is an area we’ve needed maybe a a little bit of extra quality but he

Did have a fairly decent game against Paul Vale which we’ll talk about shortly but but there you go uh one of little bit of Transfer News um absolutely no surprise to anyone Luke PL just gone back to Crystal Palace at the end of his loans fell was it six goals sorry 26

Goals no I wish 26 games Cal calm yourself down 26 games two goals it’s pretty damning isn’t it really for a forward player that cost a million pounds a couple of years ago it’s yeah with the greatest respect he’s on a one way ticket to hor him isn’t he really

The way he’s playing at the moment me yeah I mean you know no doubt his technical ability you know he can carry the ball really well when he wants to but it’s the it’s the work rate that’s the issue and unless he sorts that out

He’s not going to have a career in the football league Pro in its consistency in that sense because actually there was a couple of games where you saw that worker and you saw him really prepared to to fight and try and win the ball but when things weren’t going well he was

Not up for the scrap at all and you can’t you cannot afford to have players who are like that you just can’t this level you need players who are prepared to put put the fight in when you’re at the bottom as well especially you know and the difference when you look

At well well I was just going to say you know there there are some players who don’t put the effort in but they’ll just score goals you know and yeah you know Jermaine Beckford for example he wasn’t a grafter yeah but you know he’d score goals but plane didn’t have the goals to

Let him do that you know and let the team carry him no yeah you have right the difference when Ryan Edmonton comes on you know Edmonton will get criticized for drifting out wide a lot won that kind of thing but actually when you look

At the effort he puts in it it makes a big difference to the team sometimes so so there we go um right I think we’ve done enough of the news section nothing else to pick up in news I don’t think think that’s where we’re at at the

Moment no no new signings been made while we’re uh while we’re on the air don’t think I think they’re waiting until after recorded for the next one yeah yeah exactly um right let’s move on to it then reviewing the two Christmas games first up we’re g athletic to K

United nil um interesting one this one M obviously you were able to attend this because you were working work you I think I think you managed to watch it Buck um yeah well it’s funny actually cuz my Depot is obviously 9 miles away from wiggin’s and I thought oh if I

Finish handy I can maybe make it to the game and I’ve never been so glad to be caught in traffic and not be able to make the game because yeah it just wasn’t very good was it well it’s an interesting one isn’t it looking back and reflecting on it first half wasn’t

Great we we we were we weren’t outclassed in the same way we were outclassed against them in the game Brenan Park but we did struggle a bit to get a grip on it and I don’t think the players quite knew what the formation was which we’ll talk about in a minute

Second half actually when you look at it we had a lot of chances and we could have easily got back into the game and I know some people like oh wiggin off their foot off the gas they did but they they found it very difficult to get

Their foot back on it that’s the thing we because we were constantly trying to push forward yeah the quality was lacking absolutely no doubt in that but I I I think on another day with a little bit of look one of those goes in and suddenly the game’s completely changed

You know that that’s that’s the difference you see whereas yeah it just it just didn’t quite work out off for us in this game um in terms of the team news when that came out um before the game T chart has dropped to the bench I don’t think we

Were massively surprised by this one because he’s coming back from a long-term injury and I think Simo is very keen to be dictated by what the medical team tell him on this kind of thing now isn’t he in terms of preserving players for the excuse me

Bloody hell for the long term I’ve got I’ve had a bit of a cold over Chris Miss it’s fair to say um yeah pres preserving them for the long term um so not massive surprise there Ben Barkley came in for him the big shock was Luke PL being completely dropped

Wasn’t it yeah not even on the bench was he um and people Well Radio kumria seemed to think because Simo had some comments following the Fleetwood game about the subs and that they didn’t do a lot and radio Cumbria seemed to think that those comments were maybe aimed at plunge more than some

Others well there’s only two sub that came on wasn’t there I mean you can’t include Barkley because he came on in the in with like 30 seconds to go whereas it was Gibson and and uh PL it came on and I think Gibson did a bit

Better than PL yet Gibson didn’t come on in this game which we’ll talk about in a minute um but yeah it was a bit of a talking point beforeand a bit of a positive talking point for a lot of fans if I’m being brutally honest he spoke to

At the pub before the game but yeah I I really struggled to work out what formation we were playing at the start I heard a few people suggest we were playing Wing backs and we weren’t we were definitely not meant to be playing Wing backs because in the warmup

It was a back four that was practicing the heading Emanuel was no nowhere to be seen when it was head they doing heading practice it was Barkley the bell melish and um armor they were doing the heading practice once the game started I was like is it a 442 probably it seemed to

Be maybe with Edmundson and Maguire up front Robinson on the left Emanuel on the right and then McMan and moxen in the middle and then I was like well maybe it’s a 433 Emanuel a bit further forward Emanuel didn’t seem to know where he was meant to be playing that

Was the problem and he was getting caught out a lot and it really showed in the early stages we were like there was one point where he was playing pretty much on the left wing for a good minute or so like and this wasn’t like after a

Quar or anything like that it was just literally just turned up there it was bizarre we couldn’t work it out the opening goal for Wigan there’s no argument with the penalty is there no I mean it’s funny I was listening to it on radio Cumbria and you could just hear

Chris lumon on the co- commentary just saying don’t do it don’t do it don’t do it don’t do it and then he slides in absolutely ridiculous penalty to give away and they could be absolutely no complaint the thing that frustrates me about is he he’s left a bit exposed out

There he get a bit C out fair enough when the L gets past him he has about a two 3 second window where he can put a tackle in give away a foul outside the box and you’ll say yeah it’s a stupid tackle but fair enough he had to do

Something there and I was saying like Okay if you’re gonna do it I was almost saying the opposite to to lumy I was like if you’re gonna do it do it now do it now do it now no no don’t do it now and literally as soon as you say that

Bang he slid at the exact point you don’t want him to do it at that point you’re like just leave him just let him go and hope for the best but as he was he brings him down um mes sticks up steps up sorry and um he was very close

Gab Breeze to saving this wasn’t he yeah he was uh you know and I think that would have been a massive confidence boost for him but sadly it wasn’t to be but you know I mean obviously we’re going to touch on Port Vale as well but Breeze hasn’t

Really done a lot wrong since he’s coming to the team um no and I and I think to be honest I think the defense might be defending that little bit harder knowing that there’s a young lad in goal and that isn’t necessarily a bad thing to be

Honest yeah yeah we will talk about that at the end of the p a bit actually it’s a really good talking point that to be fair um second goal for Wig came about 20 minutes later on the 36 minute Mark Liam Morrison the lad on loan from Bayern munin

Um yeah just slacked defending on a corner isn’t it really a decent balling from the near post where lad loses his marker and flicks it on and then I think Jack’s just got to be a little bit tighter Jack armor on Morrison doesn’t he I think he he lets him get in front

Of him and just poke the ball into the back of the net and yeah what I would say is although although Breeze hasn’t done anything wrong on it it is one of those ones you look at it and you think if Thomas ho is in net he probably

Claims that because he’s so big he can come he’ll come and claim that the ball going across yeah that’s that’s and that’s not Bree’s fault he just isn’t the size of ho bar any keepers are so that’s just that’s the one area where you do lose a bit when Thomas isn’t the

Team I think it’s fair to say um but yeah 2-0 it wasn’t great um Wigan did hit the post early on as well actually we forgot to mention that um the best we had really was a curled shot by Emanuel that went over the bar there was one slight

Shout for a penalty in the first half for us it was very hard to tell down our end of the pitch but it looked like it might have been a soft one if it was given they had a couple of shoted penalties that were never penalties to

Be fair um into the second half a much improved performance there wasn’t it in terms of creating chances and two or three really good opportunities I think the flicked one from Edmonson brilliant safe from tickle to be be fair from you know quick reaction to P that behind

Um I mean yeah there’s another one where Arma from a low free kick from Robinson Scoops the ball just wide of the post and then oh Joe Garner’s chance he’s got to bury that surely hasn’t he yeah I think maybe five years ago he’d bury it

Seven days a week wouldn’t he but it’s just sort of showing he’s he’s got them limitations now hasn’t he but I think it’s one of them it’s interesting Dan said this to the day is that this season when we score one you feel like we’re

Going to score another and I I feel like if we’ scored one of those chances we could well have scored another but we we’ve just lacked that quality to get that initial goal but often once we get the initial goal you know we get a bit

Of momentum and cares us but yeah but we just didn’t have that quality and it’s the story of our season really isn’t it yeah should be said though should we have had a penalty on that very same free kick um I don’t know I’ve not seen the sort

Of oh assault on Armor yes yeah I mean it’s is I mean that is up there with um jabo’s clothes L of YoVille isn’t it yeah basically straight out WWE it’s ridiculous before the free kick is even taken the ref’s having a word with him and saying stop the pulling and

Shoving and then as the free kick is taken and comes in Shan Clair basically grabs by the neck and throws him to the floor essentially yeah not only is it a penalty but it’s a straight red card cuz it’s violent conduct essentially yeah nothing given um I wouldn’t say Joe Gana

Got some retribution on him later on but he did catch him with a possibly slightly stray elbow lat on there was there was I forgot to mention this right so Johnny who listen to the pod on know this and also John mcgeo sat with and

Chris H um there was a guy sat near us we were sort of to the we were as you look at the pitch we were to the right of the goal in Block N1 I think it was um was n N2 sorry there was a guy sat near us oh my

God his P throughout the whole game was appalling like he he kept shouting out premier league and you f off premier league and I was like mate they had eight seasons in the Premier League I think they’re pretty happy with that they won the FA Cup as well like come on

Like he wouldn’t stop doing that but he was basically accusing Claire of Faking it and cheating he was clearly knocked out it was pretty obvious anybody sat around as God some of the stuff he was coming out with Absolut nonsense like some of the rubbish that comes out some

Of our fans mouths sometimes is ridiculous but um myself yeah no to be fair I can’t even argue with that myself um in terms it terms of coming out of my mouth I should should say there um and there was one more chance where malish had a good break

Into the box and played it to Garner whose shot was uh deflected behind um yeah that was it another game where we failed to start well isn’t it that’s been a big problem this season in terms of Starting Games and it’s something that we really need to improve this

Month think in terms of you know the new players coming hopefully that can give them a lift yeah definitely I mean I don’t know if it’s because Simo has this philosophy with kickoffs doesn’t he where he likes to just boot it out for a throw right in

The corner and in League two you know you’re putting teams under the C and they’ll make a mistake in that third of the pitch where they don’t want to and it works but I feel like in League one players are just that little bit better technically and they’re able to work

Their way out of trouble there yeah I wonder maybe things like that we maybe need to start looking at doing something a little bit different on the on the kickoffs I think you’re right there especially with goal kick goal kicks as well it’s been a little bit different the last few weeks hasn’t

It in terms of that because gay Brees has tends to play them a bit more Central than Hoy was always Target armor on the left whereas Breeze is targeting Garner a bit more I don’t know if that’s a tactical decision generally by the team I’m not sure but uh but I I think

Armstrong will massively change that as well and he’s going to help us keep the ball in that third yeah yeah um so I mean Jordan Gibson not being even used Off the Bench in this one it was a Edmund it was sorry Garner Butterworth H I can’t remember who else

Game on sorry I’ve got it written down here really it was uh yeah Garner uh chares and Butterworth were the ones who came off the bench and Gibson wasn’t used surprised um to be honest I wasn’t as surprised as other people were I think a lot of people suddenly got this rumored

Didn’t he that oh he’s off we’ve accepted a bid from Stockport and Mansfield and all the rest of it but Simo said before these sort of christmy New Year e games that we’re going to have to rotate a bit and there will be some players left out of some games and

They will play the next game and I didn’t I wasn’t looking too much into it because in my head I was thinking well if he starts against Port Vale that’s that’s that and he did start against Portville um so yeah I didn’t really look too much into it but I know a lot

Of other people did yeah it’s interesting one with him isn’t it because he he’s played pretty much every game this season hasn’t he so maybe a case of like this busy Christmas period and then we’ve got a busy janry coming up as well you don’t want to burn

Him up your best player de you you you want to make sure you keep him at the very least you know exactly and and yeah yeah and I know as well that Port Vale have had a mad injury crisis at fullback and that I think when we played them I

Think they had a 16y old on one side and a 17y old on the other so Sim maybe wanted Gibson fresh for that game um but at the same time why have him on the bench because you know I’ve always thought you’ve got players on your bench

If someone goes gets injured in the first minute in that position they’re going to need to come on so I don’t know yeah and and if you’re pushing to try and get a goal in the last 10 minutes surely you’d bring him on to try and you

Know have a decent impact there but yeah obviously decided not to um other points on this one um a little bit of the poor discipline in this game six buckings picked up so that’s a ,000 pound fine for for the club because if you get six bookings for your plays in

One game that happens um of those book some of the bookings were ridiculous to be fair and the ref was giving them out for every single tackle but the one that really wound me up was Shawn McGuire’s later on um he won a free kick to be

Fair the ladder brought him down it was a bit of sloppy one it just inside their half and then he walked away and he was arguing with the play and as the kick was taken he he kicked out the player or he did something to the player the ref

Blows up gives them AE and books Maguire and it’s like you’ve taken all the impetus out of an attack there and that really W it’s just stupid stupid thing to do but you get that from play sometimes don’t you so it just little things like that do W sometimes but I

Mean I think we said a few weeks ago we lost I kind remember who it was against and we said that we’re disappointed that we didn’t get any bookings because it sort of showed a lack of fight and but this was just stupid booking there’s showing a bit of fight and there stupid

Booking and this was definitely the L isn’t it yeah there’s a there’s there’s an area in the middle that you need you need to hit at there really isn’t it so there you go but yeah I think overall actually I mean when you look back at

The formance it wasn’t that bad of a performance certainly not as bad as like your chams and and other one black pools and things like that there was a bit of fight there especially second half and what a fantastic away following again 4,100 in there on a Friday night toward

Your team bottom of the league went one in nine in incredible isn’t it really so hat off to every one of you who Trav down for that game because the weather was not nice we got drench walking to the ground beforehand um and I think I

Just about dried out by the time I got home at about half 10 or whatever it was so uh so there you go um well let’s move on then to the New Year’s Day game and a bit more joy car un Night 2 Port Vil one

This was more like it wasn’t it Mike this was a bit more like the the car we remember from last season a bit of fight and SPO there wasn’t there yeah exactly and late goals as as well you know and the draw yeah um but we we we deserved it you

Know there’s no two ways about that and and we played some really really good football at times as well which you know sometimes it’s hard to do that when you know you’re struggling a bit players don’t have the confidence to be stringing all these passes together and

Taking extra touches but you know we played some really really good stuff and we definitely good value for the win absolutely absolutely this f um in terms of the team selection no surprise Once Again Luke PL wasn’t involved Simo did admit after the game pretty much

That the loan deal wasn’t going to be extended um or they had no intention to at that point um three changes from the wck game Gibson Garner and Charters came in for mccalman Edmonson and Arma I suppose Arma maybe was the big surprise there of the ones that were were dropped

From the team possibly um went back to the back three with Barkley at the right side melish on the left Val down the middle and Robinson got a chance to show what he can do at left wing back rather than Midfield which he’s been playing recently uh Manuel as well at right Wing

Back as well to see him playing that role um and it it it certainly seemed to to have a good impact didn’t it on the team they looked a lot more familiar in that formation didn’t they that they have done for a long time yeah definitely and I feel like Emanuel he’s

Not a fullback I think his positioning isn’t good enough to be a fullback but as a wing back I think he’s got the athleticism and he he can get up and down and he he caused their uh fullback a lot of problems um but I think yeah

For him he’s a wing back we need to be playing him at Wing back if we’re going to be playing him really absolutely absolutely I mean first half we dominated in terms of chances it was a long-range eff Gibson that was tipped over and CH shot wide Gibson also had a

Chance early in the uh second half a little bit of acrobatic overhead kick effort and then uh it just kind of felt there’s a feeling of deja wasn’t there because switching off at a corner sloppy defending Jordan Gibson to be fair in him he had had two or three men to try

And pick up at once and he no one got out to support him quickly enough they got into the box balls played across and and G pokes it home from fairly close range there’s an argument from a few I’ve seen online that Gab Brees maybe could have done a little bit better on

This go and if it been Thomas Hoy people might have been having a go at him I mean I think what the shot was probably seven yards out I think yeah if Strikers are taking shots from seven yards out in the Box it’s the defense you need to be

Looking at and not the goalkeeper no I think you’re right that I think the the defense was the issue there’s maybe an argument he could could have done better with but the thing is I think even if he get to hand on to it there’s a chance someone’s going to be there to

Poke into the empty net anyway from from close range because there wasn’t really anywhere for him to P it away soon because of the power on it so so yeah really frustrated that point you think Here We Go Again basically and they nearly made it two-nil didn’t they and

Actually this is where Breeze came into his element didn’t he he made a good long say say from a long range effort and from the rebound really good technique to make the save wasn’t it yeah really good double save that um but I mean on the whole you know he he he

Comes out and collects the ball um quite well you know sometime one thing that people don’t see a lot from Keepers is like the way they come out and claim through balls that’s something that’s so easy to get wrong and you can so easily get caught in no man’s land and he did

It pretty you know self assured um his whole game was was pretty good you know yeah there’s there’s still elements um of the defense not quite trusting him yet in terms of him being an ex inexperienced player there was a point where he was wanting the ball back from Emanuel when

Emanuel had it in a tight area of the back and and he was like he was he was saying like I want it basically saying here here I’ll I’ll clear it Emanuel kept it kept it then put out for the Thro and Emanuel did apologize to him

And say look you know yeah I should have played it back to you that’ll hopefully come with a few more games you know if he’s going to be in net for a little bit of the long term here that’ll give him a chance to maybe you know show what he

Can do and the players will start to trust him a little bit more but that that’ll come with time um yeah United kept plugging away and then Maguire almost equalized actually he had one that was uh poach us wide and then uh came the penalty incident now when I saw

This at the time I thought it looked very soft I thought it was a bit theatrical he gone down a bit throwing himself down I was like a soft on that one now I’ve seen it back from the camera angle on TV it’s Stone penalty he’s just kicked

Him basically he’s got the ball he’s kicked at him and not any of it yeah I I was the same I was watching it at home and I follow and when I saw it the first time I didn’t think much of it but when it showed the slow-mo replay I was like

Oh that’s a penalty and to be fair to the ref you know he only gets to see it once you and me on first you and both didn’t think there was much in it so yeah we give refs a lot of stick but I think it’s hard to give him too much

Stick for that because on first viewing for both of us we didn’t see it so I mean it it was at close range as well wasn’t it so he he got to see it quite close up so if he thinks it’s a it’s a far there fair play um Jordan

Gibson stepped up very calm sent the keeper the wrong way puts the ball in the back of the net and then kept pressing pushing forward to get that winner and left it late but it finally came and it was Mr the pendal himself this season Big John on the end of it um

A great delivery from Robinson from the left I should I should give give give bit of credit to Dan but actually because you know we’ve been critical of him this season at times in the terms of the fact he’s he’s clearly a very good talent footballer when it comes to

Dribbling the ball but he just doesn’t know when to release it for a pass and M there’s an argument you know with this one he didn’t really have an option to release it anyway he just kept going and go and force the defender to put it behind for a corner Robinson steps up

Great inswinger and melish does a brilliant job in terms of losing his man into the six-yard box and he just Powers the header into the ground and into the roof of the net and I I I was right in line with it pretty much because I’d moved down to the South

End Of The Paddock towards the end of the game just to to get a slightly different View and you could see as soon as the ball waiting for this is a really good one this one you could see John coming charging in plant is heading into

The back of the net boom and uh Bron Park goes barmy and then at that point there was only one more chance for Port Val was a free kick from about 20 yards and gar sent him miles over the bar and yeah gab Breeze took his time over the

Goal kick like an experienced stoer really rather than a young lad and the three points are picked up and yeah just just a a real positive feeling at the end and you know the crowd really got behind the team as well another 7,000 plus Cloud really really good to

See yeah um you know Contin down at the bottom of the league imagine what’s it’s gonna be like when we’re actually get up towards the top you know we could be getting 10 week next season that’s the excitement um yeah talking points switching back to 352 looks so much

Better doesn’t it yeah definitely I think like you said with Wigan I think players didn’t really know where they should be and I think with this the players know where they should be a bit more and I think Emanuel Wing back is his best position um yeah I mean John melish I’ve

Previously sort of been in favor of 352 and I’ve said that’s the position where you get the best of John melish but I think now in a four the back you also see great performances from him so and and Sam LEL to be fair you know they

Both they’ve both played very well in a four at the back but I think they’re both also capable of playing in a three at the back um controversial opinion I think that Robinson could be a better Wing back than armor oh interesting yeah because I’ve I’ve always I’ve always said that Arma

Has been a fullback playing at Wing back and Arma is a very good fullback you know and he’s not a bad Wing back you know he’ll turn out seven seven out of 10 every week but I just feel Robinson just offers that little bit more in the

Final third and you want him on the pitch for them Corners I I think with Robinson there’s elements of Danny Granger about the way he plays in terms of the way he plays the ball his crosses in yeah I think I think Arma will bring you a lot more defensively and I think

You you you’d feel a lot stronger with him in there I think there’ll be times when you want one or the other but it’s good good to have some healthy competition that position as much as anything and and thing with with armor people forget people forget armor has

Played what he plays over like 60 70 games in a row you know starting so it comes a point where he probably does need a little break out the team and I’m sure he’ll be backing at some point but you know he because he’s a great player

And we’ve seen that down the years but yeah Robinson had had another really good game and is it basically a chance for him to pin down that role for a bit now you reckon yeah I I mean I think he’s done his bit to certainly stay on the team

For next week like like I say I think you want him on the pitch just for them set pieces you know doesn’t matter where you play him you want him somewhere around that pitch um yeah yeah fantastic and go I think the thing that stood out from

This with the playing the 3 five2 is that you had a lot of uh round pegs and round holes didn’t you basically instead of square pegs and round Hol we’ve had this season because um I mean Barkley looks much better on the right side of a back three than he

Was the right back he looks much more comfortable there melish like he said melish looks comfortable in both the roles but you’re getting so much more of him going forward when you’re playing that fre F we saw him doing you know when we when we’re chasing that equalizer and and indeed when we’re

Chasing a winner we saw him do his overlap a few times and causing them a lot of problems um yeah and and that’s what you want I feel like 352 it’s it’s more versatile in terms of what’s going on in the game you know it can be a back

Five when you need to sit tight but it can be also melish bombing forwards when you need to get a goal yeah he’s been so dependable this season hasn’t he I I I think it’s a strong argument of him being our player of the season so far

Melish yeah him and Gibson two two the maybe LEL as well are the free contenders i’ would say um yeah I think if he didn’t get injured oh oh 100% definitely speaking of Gibson um obviously interesting comments from SIM after the uh after the game clearly frustrated with him because he he

Recognizes what a talent he is and he wants to get the best on he wants him to be performing every single game which that’s probably why he’s playing our level because he’s not consistent enough yeah if he if is more consistent if be playing at Championship level because

He’s got the ability um but another good game for him and I think playing the 352 with him in the center those three Center midfielders it also gives you that flexibility if we do want to switch to 433 we can push melish into Midfield and we can push Gibson to one of the

Wings if you have a striker who can play as a Winger like a Maguire or like as we had Patrick last season that gives you the options to do that and actually I think getting back to that flexibility will actually really help us in some games and be able to do it without

Having to make Subs with any luck so yeah definitely um but yeah Gibson good see him getting back a little bit back to form as well really because he’s maybe dropped off a little bit over the last mon didn’t he yeah I mean I felt

Like he was maybe given a little bit of Freedom um in that role I think because I’ve said allot I think moxon was the deepest midfielder I think Charters was the one kind of doing a bit of everything and I feel like Gibson because he was he was sort of drifting

Onto both flanks a bit and just he had that little bit of creative freedom that that you like to see him with and he was a little bit frustrating because there was some times when he maybe gave the ball away sloppily and he didn’t seem desperate to win it back sometimes

But then 5 seconds later it just create a moment of magic out of nothing like he does and and that’s him and like like you said before if he was consistent in what he does he wouldn’t be playing for Carla would he so yeah you just kind of got to got to

Accept it I suppose yeah and work on it and try and improve that and which isly what SIM wants to do um before we wrap up this bit uh got to give a mention to gab Breeze obviously made his Bron Park debut in this game and he’s now what

Free free get fre appearances into his car United Career how he’s obviously not been able to keep a clean sheet so far which is not his fault we should say how like you mentioned it before do you think he he’s done quite well do you think he’s his role to lose at the

Moment I mean I imagine Sim want to bring a goalkeeping but he doesn’t seem in that much of a rush because he it looks like he’s going to be playing on Saturday ex yeah yeah I mean ideally I’d like to see us get another keeper in and

I’d like to see Breeze loaned out to I’d say National League at the lowest and I want him playing 15 20 games between now and the end of the season because I think that would be better for him than sitting on our bench um but yeah he he’s

Certainly you know taken to it like a duct to water and that’s really good to see another another cumbrian lad in the uh in the team I I do want to this one it’s been a good test for Simo as well to look and think right he’s actually maybe worth

Another deal at the end of the season OB his contracts up in the summer you might look right okay show actually he’s quite capable and he’s got a bit of confidence about him and and he you know technically looks pretty good we can take a bit more time to develop him now

In the same way you know gas we sent him out on loan to BL and like yep he’s got enough let’s tie him down for longer with with Gabe he’s had to do it even harder way by coming into the first team and a struggle inside and and try and

Help us get points so it’s a good care for him either way and cor well I was just going to say I feel like goalkeeper a bit different as well I feel like a lot of young Lads if they’re not around the first team by the

Age of 20 they often get binned off but goalkeepers often have longer careers don’t they so you can afford them a little bit more time when it comes to that yeah no absolutely I think you’re right on that one um overall assessment of the Christmas uh fixtures Mike

Um yeah Didn’t Start particularly well slight Improvement and then ended on a positive really with a good performance and the the first win since the Burton game back in October first win under the ptic as well in under their era um got to really look at that think great this

Is the New Year’s resolution new Fresh Start new players coming in big opportunities coming up in the next month yeah definitely I I mean there was a point on Saturday where I think we were about seven points away from safety um and to sort of turn that round

Actually now we’re only three points away from safety exitor a very winnable game and if we go there and we get a win or even a draw you know it’s two games unbeaten and we can hopefully just go on a little bit of a run yeah that’s the Hope isn’t it h

We’re not going to go through the um the league two results because it’s to many to fit it League sorry League two League one results I just relegated us there uh League one results for the for the T Christmas fixtures because it it just take up too much time so uh we’re going

To take a short break now H after the break for part two will be back and we’ll be speaking to Sam Parks who’s ex exus City fan he doesn’t have his own podcast but he’s involved with the official ex City Podcast and also does a bit of stuff in terms of commentary for

Them on there like equ of the eiel and stuff like that um really good chat with Sam really interesting guy so uh we’ll be back just after the break to speak to him this is John Mish you listen to Le BR and bule yes we’re into part two now

And it’s time for Behind Enemy Lines where we’ll be speaking to an ex City fan ahead of this weekend’s big I think it’s fair to say game at James’s Park and I’ve got Sam pars with me um Sam uh welcome to the show and just tell us a

Bit about yourself because you do a bit of work for the official exra podcast you a bit of commentary as well don’t you yeah a pleasure to have me on Lee thank you very much um lovely to be here yeah so I go to exto UNI um so I’ve kind

Of adopted the club through there and big fan uh through there now um so yeah so I commentate for the uni uh on quite a lot of home games and then I also do bits for the the club’s podcast as well through you know uh relationships that

We’ve kind of gain through the media team which is quite fun you know um and obviously attend home and away games as well which is quite nice so yeah a bit of everything really it’s you mentioned about being a student at the union and doing stuff there because when when me

And my mate went down Michael I do the podcast with we went down to the game against you guys a couple of seasons ago there was a large group of students studing the away end in front of us and it seems like they go the away and every

Like a game and adopts the away team and they they had like K United Crest printed on paper stuck on their t-shirts and stuff and they were trying to start random chance that it was a bizarre but amusing experience that was a highlight of a pretty Dreadful day of football for

Us that day yeah students you know they get to get up to everything I’ve I’ve seen it all down there so it doesn’t shock me but you know we got a big following of students as well at at the club which is quite nice and um yeah

Yeah so yeah yeah right let’s go back to August um you guys got a two-nil win at Britton Park and two games later you were top of the division yeah here we are four months on and you’ve dropped into the bottom four what has gone wrong in that

Time look it’s you know there’s there’s quite a lot of factors I think obviously luck plays into it a bit we know League one as soon as you get hit by a few injuries it kind of goes downhill our best players out injured Demitri Mitchell doing ACL um ultimately our

Best player unfortunately um the likes of Sam nay leaving to Ram as well are two best players on the move and then you know other injuries along the way haven’t helped but you know it’s just been very very poor really um mistakes I think quite a lot I guess we’ll go on to

Talk about recent form but happen again at the weekend you know a good performance ruined by silly mistakes so you know it’s it’s one where you kind of look at yourself and I think everyone at the clubs looked to them themselves and gone where do we go from here and it’s a

A really really tough one yeah I mean the obvious question is about the manager Gary Coldwell I mean he’s done a a pretty steady job actually since he came into the club to replace Matt Taylor and yet surely he must be under threat at the moment in terms of

You know the Run of form that the club’s on and having dropped down the table Yeah I think you know it’s a it was a really really tough one you know fans were calling for his head about eight weeks or so ago quite a long time ago you know

Losses to Fleetwood and teams like that back back eight weeks ago or so people were calling for his head and it’s it’s kind of reached that point where we now in December and January his plans are going to be in for the January transfer window which is is the problem you know

It’s kind of hard to sack a manager when all the plans are in place and they’re already moving to sign players which is kind of the debacle we’ve been in you know if if we sacked him eight weeks ago you could have got a manager in who

Would set their own plans in for January but the thing is at the moment we got to stick with him because it’s going to be his January plans that are going to be executed on the club yeah I I’m looking here the recent fixes you’ve had um and

I think was it a I’m trying to look here is it a nil nil draw against Portsmouth that’s not a bad result really to be fair is it you know and I know Wickam have dropped down the table a little bit but that’s not too bad you know one nil

Win against them and a one1 draw against Steven is she getting some results against some of the decent teams but then when it comes to some of the struggling teams I mean Port Vale when we played the weekend they weren’t great at all and Cambridge obviously dropped

Down a bit and obviously reading you know right down there the season you’ve not been able to get resulted is it just a case of that they just not turning up against the the the small you know the smallest probably wrong with the struggling teams this season yeah look I

Think you know you can attribute it to two things as an exto City fan at the moment we don’t have an out andout Striker on fortunately um that won’t score goals you know n left in the summer so we haven’t got a a true number

10 or number nine up there we’ve had to recall a youngster in on loan Sunny Cox he’s a good player but at the end of the day he’s not a proven League one Striker at all yeah so it’s been goals at that end of the field that’s been struggling

And you know you combine that with some mistakes at the back that if you had a striker you could get away with a little bit but you know no goals up front means that mistake at the back we had a few against reading um the port Vil game was

Down to a few mistakes and that just means you start to lose those games that otherwise you could scrape a result or Draw in which is you know really frustrating it canes that everything you say in there I think that be Cara I’m listening to what you said there about

Small mistakes not able to scroll the other end nodding alonger yeah that’s that sounds very very familiar and it’s very easy to get into that cycle and and drop yourself down towards the bottom um one thing that’s always stood out whenever we’ve played against ex of the

Years if they’ve always had that quite sort of steady core of players in the squad it doesn’t maybe I’m just looking it wrong and I’m looking at the squad now it seems like there’s been a bit more disruptions that in recent seasons and it’s not that steady core seems have

Almost dropped away and you bring a lot more extra sort of plays in almost is is that the case there been a not notable change in that area yeah I think there has you know we’re a club that we pride oursel on our Academy you know we’ve had

Brilliant players come through the likes of aie Watkins Ethan Edo have all come through our Academy and gone on to bigger things but you know Matt tayor left halfway through last season and it’s kind of been you know Gary said he said openly he doesn’t mind not having a

Team for of Academy players which have you know kind of seen that core drop away we had Josh key leave in the summer RG Collins all Academy Lads Jack Sparks who’s at pompy now yeah playing good football um so you know there’s still a few players in there you know the likes

Of Pier Sweeney Alex harridge Harry kite but even then a few of them are rumored to leave and it’s not the same ex to City team that you would have looked at you know 12 18 months ago and gone yeah this is you know an exto City type

Squad yeah interesting you mention the academy there because it is something that X have got a fantastic reputation for as you say Watkins and aadun and players like that um you’ve gone on to some do some fantastic things and the club obviously invested heavily on in their Academy and Training Center didn’t

They I think in in recent Seasons with the money they got from Watkins and that’s something that we’re looking to do as a club here at car um how are the current crop of youngsters doing there because like like you said doesn’t seem to be too many coming through you seem

To send a lot out loan toex think oton and clubs like that but it doesn’t seem like they’re they’re pushing on this at the moment no we’ve we’ve reached kind of a rough patch you know the the recent batch have gone off they’re either in the team at the moment or they’ve just

Left in the summer um for for decent money and you know reparation fees which is quite nice but it’s that kind of Gap we’ve got two to three years where we’re waiting on some players to come through we’ve got a few you know 17 year olds

18y olds who make the bench play the the you know Papa John’s trophy or whatever it’s called now um brist Street Motors that’s what it’s called that’s the one yes yeah that’s the one yeah they play in those games but apart from that you know unfortunately they’re not going to

Get a look in in a relegation scrap so it is Lone spells for them but there’s a few that could be pushing on the door but nothing like the old crop that we’ve had of of recent years so as you mentioned there before Sam Nom huge loss uh in in August you

Know to lose a play of his quality um big impact that’s had but also is that sort of the player that you reckon Gary c will be looking to and it’s difficult to replace a player like that isn’t it but get a similar sort of

Player in to take on his role yeah like going into this transfer window I think all EXA fans know we just need Strikers you know two Strikers who can score goals you know n scored us 15 goals in League one last season he scores goals um that’s just what he did um and

Obviously we had a really good season last year in League one you know partly because of his his goals so to lose him you know really really annoying but there’s money in the bank from that transfer fee you know a million pound Striker there’s money there to look for

A replacement and hopefully they can find a replacement that that can just hit the ground running because that’s what we need at the moment yeah similar in the way that we had to bring Luke Armstrong in in jary you know we we’ve needed a play like that for a while um

Yeah in terms of other players in I mean Demitri Mitchell you know he’s someone who’s impressed quite a bit with for you guys and you know certainly made an impact at brentton Park earlier in the season when he should have been sent off I think everyone is in agreement on that

One but he’s out with is an ACL injury I think he picked up that that must be another big blow as well yeah ACL um and his contracts out in the summer so we don’t know if we’ll see him again unfortunately big big loss um a really Dynamic player he looked really good

When he came in January for us last year and he really kicked on this season um got some big goals a winner against Luton in the cup um obviously scoring at Brunton Park as well he scored a few others in the league uh just an all round quality player what you know he

Could go up another league but a massive loss for us at the moment I think who are the danger men in the squad that we need to watch out for then for this game danger men in the squad oh I’ll give you a few uh Dion Rankin on the right wing

On loan from Chelsea um scored his first we goal against reading at the weekend he’s just come on Leaps and Bounds recently um I think a lot of the recent form you can kind of put to him got a really nice assist at Steven AG as well just looked much better um really

Impressed with him I think the likes of Sunny Cox a youngster coming through who’s our Striker at the moment scored the winner against Wickham um the fans really big fan of him um may not start but he’s definitely one to look out for and then I’m going to say Luke Harris

Who he signed today on loan from Fulham um should have come in the summer really really good player um and I know a lot of fans were excited to see him in the summer but to see him now really interesting yeah interesting later um I think there’s much not much else to ask

Really in terms of rest of the season I suppose the aim is just simply to get yourselves away from trouble and and you know it is going to be a bit of a fight at the B isn’t it because you look at it and I don’t think there’s a huge amount

To pick between maybe the bottom eight in the division is there no I think it’s all open which is really nervy for for you know for ex City fans and probably carile fans as well you know we’re kind of in the same park where goals aren’t

Coming you know easily I know you lot have signed Luke Armstrong which might help out in that category but you know it’s mistakes and goals and that’s massive in a league one dog fight and there’s you know there’s five or six teams that don’t look that that great

Down there you know reading Cambridge could get dragged back in I still wouldn’t roll Wick him out of it yet already you know it’s really open at the bottom and there’s no team set a drift yet which is really interesting and very nervous for exter City to be honest yeah

Um Samy very gent your time thank you very much before you go I’ll ask see you for prediction for this weekend’s game uh I’m goingon to say ex to win at one nil yeah to fair you’re not the only person to have said that this season on

On the predictions here so that’s it’s not not a massive surprise um thanks for your time again and all the best for the rest of the season after this weekend as long as it’s not at the expense of caros staying up pleasure mate thank you very much all the best

Too hi it’s uh Tom ptic II and you’re listening to the Brunton bugle and yes we’re back into part three of the Brunton bugle thanks once again to Sam Parks the EXC fan for giving up his time to speak to us ahead of this weekend’s massive game I think it’s fair

To say Mike you know I mean can you start throwing around the phas six pointer in January um yeah I mean I I’ve always been a firm believer you know teams look at results at the end of the season and they’ll say oh if only we’d won that last game of the

Season but every game matters just as much as the last game of the season you know and yeah we I don’t want to look back at the end of the season and think oh only we’ve got better against ex because we’ve already lost them once so yeah

Yeah if if they’re to sort of take six points off us that’s this season that’ be devastating yeah it’ be pretty frustrating want it to follow up it get because that’s been our problem this season is it following up a good performance with another good performance it’s generally been followed

With a stinker usually hasn’t it or you know little you know one of those games where just frustrated ourselves and not quite been good enough um yeah just just before we get into that though just to mention there obviously you heard a little bit of the um little sting that

We play in in the breaks there with Tom ptic II you’re gonna hear a bit more from him though next week aren’t you because Dan and I hopefully we’ve we’ve got it pinned down we’re going to be speaking to Tom B II we’ll have a special episode for you H we’ll have a

Chat with him about the Takeover get a bit little bit more background on his life as well and uh what’s planned for United in the next uh coming years really so so very excited looking forward to that one uh thanks once again to Tom for agreeing to do that with us

Because we know he listens to the Pod so um it’ll be good to have him on at some point next week and we’ll let you know when that’s coming out just follow all our social channels and if you subscribe to the podcast of course if you go to

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And says says hello and says oh you so and so from the they recognize our voice before they I think sometimes people like hear the voice and turn around like are you so and so from the yes yes I am so so nothing will be um slic from

Twitter I’m sure he’ll enjoy having his name out here when me and you were in Wigan so we when we go to home games we we I get the train from Liverpool to Wigan you get the train from Southpaw to Wigan but you come into Wigan walgate

And I come into Wigan Northwestern so we go out to the a little we tell a little story but we’re going to the Morrison’s local shop there and get get some water or some drinks and some scr for the for the train up and we were just stood

Outside there and and a fellow just Taps us on the uh shoulders and he goes and he takes his headphone and goes you’re not going to believe this I’ve just heard your voice in it and you’re studying with me and it was it was yeah sliced from Twitter he he wasn’t able to

Get to the game that day he was working but he said like I’m just listening to you while I’m out on my R this is mad I was like it really is a small world isn’t it when something like that happens it’s it’s it’s absolutely Bing but yeah thank you everyone for

Listening we really appreciate it and we’ve got lots more to come over the next coming months right let’s look ahead to the exit game then Mike um interesting what ex aren’t they because when they beat us back in August with that criminal 2-n win where they

Should have been down to 10 men uh with uh X’s Demetri Mitchell um the winner of the baby boy Byfield 2003 um big shout out to Joe Stevenson there K United fan who does that uh mental mental award each year um should have been sent off in that game two

Games later eight games in their top of the league fast forward to now what nearly 20 games later they’re what fourth bottom it’s crazy it shows how it can really turn around quite quickly in the league doesn’t it you know you know you can go to a good start but if you don’t

Keep it up you can find yourself dropping down the table are you quite surprised that they’ve dropped down so far um yeah I mean I did think at the start of the Season it was a bit of a false position it’s it’s funny we’ve played a few teams that the start of the

Season uh Port Vale were another one and they were absolutely flying when we played them and they’re not flying anymore um and stevenage and when we played stevenage I thought oh yeah they weren’t last up there either I mean steage pretty much have they’ve gone off

A little bit but they still yeah you know but yeah they’re still in the top seven now but um but yeah so yeah exra and portv have both sort of uh stumbled down the league but it’s one of them there there is some very big fish in this league isn’t isn’t there and

Absolutely zero disrespect to exra I’ve got a lot of time for them as a football club there’s a lot of football clubs I hate um and exra aren’t one of them um but you know it is a tough league and and there’s a lot of big fish and exitus

Sadly it’s it is hard to compete with the boltons the portsmiths and the you know the Peter atel of this league and and then there are Club who we’ll touch on in a minute who rely heavily on young players coming through youth Youth Academy products to to get themselves up

There don’t they and if that drops off you suddenly find yourselves in a bit of trouble don’t you know when you you you have to bring in players who and you have to almost ruin the balance of your squad in that sense um here’s a stat for

You they’ve only had one win since September that was the one-nil victory uh free games ago against uh Wick and wanders they’ve picked up just seven points from the last 48 available I mean that’s pretty telling that isn’t it um you imagine g c must be under threat

Of I mean if if we lose this game start of the transfer window surely they St to think maybe we’ll have to get rid of him now because if we if we delay any longer and things still bad well you going have to get rid of someone before the window

Shut shut and you don’t give them very much time to find new players do you you know that that’s something that fell into our laps almost a couple of years ago with Simo we got very lucky in terms of him coming in that could have been a

Disaster couldn’t it so do you reckon he’s under he must be under fret surely yeah but the same time ex aren’t a club that sack manages as Willy Wily as other clubs are they no they’re not so yeah I mean naturally if you’re under

A run like that yeah you are going to be under threat but as to whether or not they get rid of him or they want him to see it out is is another matter I mean losing Sam n last August is a big blow for them wasn’t it you know he scored so

Many goals for them and such a big player get 1.1 million pounds for him it’s great and they can probably spend a bit of that in this January transfer window but it’s difficult to replace a player of that quality isn’t it no matter how much money you’ve got when

You’re a club the size of exor yeah exactly um and they lost Jamal Blackman as well the keeper uh who had been I think he’ been their number one for a good few years I think um you know we’ve seen ourselves you know replacing a keeper it’s probably the hardest

Position on the pitch to to replace really um and they lost Jack Sparks to Portsmouth as well and all of a sudden that’s a bit of a spine of your team that’s just gone and yeah it’s it’s not been easy for them to to build it back up again well

Yeah this is the point I was I made in the chat with um with Sam that when you look at the squad in previous years you when you before I put together these previews and I put together what the squad is you you’d probably be able to

In your head remember I can remember about seven or eight exit to players I I and you recognize the names straight away I don’t get that now I I mean I’m looking through the squad I mean looking at Midfield I think a push I mean recognize Tom Carroll because he was a

Big player big accomplishment not really in terms of long-term exent maybe Kyle is it Kyle Taylor maybe’s the only one I think there maybe I mean even in attack I mean I don’t really recognize any of the players there in terms a long-term Place P Sweeney really is the only one

That stands out for me and think I remember him and Alex Alex harrid been there a while other than that there’s been a quite a turnover I think in recent Seasons hasn’t there as you mentioned they lost Blackman nay Sparks I mean Jake Capri and um and Archie

Collins were both big players Josh ke you know they’re the kind of players you’ve remembered for like three or four years there I think it’s probably starting to catch up on them a little bit isn’t it yeah well I remember Caprice cuz he was the wing back one that hadn’t scored

A goal like ever and scored yeah I remember now that was day we had and me went down when Keith Millan was manager and there was the uh the animal poo on the back step of the Terrace we had to put a a cardbo cop over just make nether stood on it during

The game um at least we hope it was an animal if it wasn’t then was a very very small human poo let’s just put it that way um that’s enough talk about that uh I don’t want to talk about animals and and things like that I’ll maybe I’ll

Leave that for the uh for the little extra afterwards as a little story I I’ll tell as to why we have to record a little bit late today um summer signings what did what did you make of the plays they brought in I mean they normally don’t bring that many they

Normally had just that little bit of experience to go with the youth don’t they and they they’ve OB had to make a lot more signings this this season I mean I’m looking at it 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 12 13 14 15 signings not really

Like them is it to be fair it’s quite a big turnover who stands out there for you um well I think Jack hon had he not been on loan there or something I think so he was at Forest Green wasn’t he a couple years ago I remember that I think

He was at Barnes on loan from forest green yeah for forest green I think I remember him from yeah um yeah yeah I thought he was a pretty handy player when he’s played against us um in the past um but yeah other than that I mean

There’s a few who uh you know because the players have lost have ultimately gone on to better clubs you know yeah you had Josh ke went to Swansea Archie Collins peterb um gavan Brown’s a bit of a controversial one isn’t it but they just wanted rid of him

Um you know Jack Sparks touched on Jamal Blackman um and San nbe but they’ve all sort of gone on better things and a lot of The Replacements have been kind of punts from non- League um which sometimes they work sometimes they don’t but you’re requiring most of them to work yeah

Really and you know they’re not all going to work are they so no I think you know I think they only took they only took on I think four loonies which they always seem to be a team that takes on the maximum five from what I seem to

Recall um yeah but yeah they um like you say they don’t have used to be able to name a good few players from their lineup and that kind of spine has gone and I think that’s that’s why they’re they’re struggling really 15 players in they’re all going to take a bit of

Time to adapt aren’t they yeah I mean Yanik wilch is a name that I’ve heard of before as well I suppose there’s one there and um Tom Carol is the obious one has heed technically very very good football he’s been very unlucky with injuries in his career and I think Theon

Theon ranking seems to have done quite well there Ryan trevit looked quite good actually in the game at Bron Park I was quite impressed with him but yeah beyond that it’s it’s much of a muchness really for them isn’t it you know I’m looking at the recent results as well I mean

They get they seem to do all right against the better teams they got you know a nil-nil draw against pouth in a one-1 draw with stevenage but then they’re losing to Port V who we saw are not particularly great side they’ve lost two to Cambridge who’ve been struggling a little bit and

You know a 3-2 defeat against reading one of the fellow strugglers as well in the last game and H if you want to watch this back I mean the goal that the the third the second goal sorry for reading is an absolute shambles at the back for them

It was really not good defending at all they failed to clear it and it’s an own gos heading into the back of the net from across it’s it’s not great I think it’s fair to say um yeah h I feel like it’s one we really got to go

For for the three points in really I I think we’ve got a sense a bit of blood here and think right let let’s use the confidence of that win against PA Vale and get them on the back foot and try and get results from this one that

That’s what I’m really hoping for anyway yeah def um yeah right let’s touch on some of the other little bit before we uh talk about United uh referee for this one KL Brooke from East Sussex it’s his fourth season as an efl referee I think he’s actually from Scotland originally

So also think on soccer base about that um he’s taken sh of 21 games so far season handing out 95 yellows and two red cards um I don’t think the stats I’ve got here for last season correct because I think I didn’t update it sorry

About that he has only taken Char of one United game before that was the trip to swinden back in August 2021 I think Joe Riley scored a brilliant goal in that game I seem to remember and Tristan abahan scored a penalty if I remember rightly I think possibly uh brenon

Dickson remember Magnus Norman were booked that day head-to-head wise we’ve not got a very good record against him it’s the 67th meeting of the two sides and we’ve won 20 drawn 11 17 and we’ve lost 29 we’ve only won once against him in the last 12 games last 12 fixtures

And that was the one-nil victory of Brunton Park in the 2021 uh 2021 season where with the fans weren’t allowed to go and I think this was I think this was like the last good win we got During the period you know when we had a load of

Games that were called off I think after this we went rapidly down after this game Alandra I think scored in like yeah I think it was in in like the first five minutes um yeah and we were all like because it we’ve been so long without a

Game and we’re all like roaring to get back and we started so well and then our season just fell aart so and and if I remember rightly it was a one o00 kickoff because I think they wanted to save money on the flood lights because they thought well no fans are there you

Might as well do it one o00 and then watch it at home if I remember rightly I’m sure we got a few games like that didn’t we I think I think might right though yeah I’m I’m still gutted that we never had that Tuesday like 1:00 kickoff

Against late in Ori that we were nearly had or something at one point remember we tried to do that and it got called off because of the snow or the ice I think it was oh that that would have been incredible um yeah so that’s in

Terms of those stats uh well let’s talk about United then Mike um it sounds like from what Simo said in the pre-match F there’s a couple of possible injury issues you’d imagine maybe one of them might be Taylor charts who did hobble off with what look like a

Dead leg and maybe struggling to recover from that bare mindit a Monday to Saturday rather than a Saturday to Saturday this one um would you make any changes other than that potentially um yeah I mean for me I I felt like the Midfield on Saturday Charters and moxon just have

A little bit of an understanding together yeah um and i’ I’d like to sort of stick with that um wouldn’t surprise me though if I mean it’s tough isn’t it because who who’ you drop because if you to play Charters and moxen that implies dropping Gibson if if you to play the

Three at the B um yeah yeah it’s tough um I mean Simo does like to stick with the winning team to be fair he does but then he said this recently hasn’t he that sometimes he’s like maybe I’ve made a mistake doing that tell you what I do I probably would

Take Char out and that’s not a reflection on his performance I thought he was I thought he was arguably until he got injured one man of the match against uh Paul really controll the Midfield he some really nice touches in there but you don’t want to risk him

Getting a longer term injury there if he’s got a slight dead leg don’t risk it bring Harrison Neil in for him and then you can push MOX a little bit further forward Neil can do the defensive role Gibson in there as well and then I’d probably switch Garner out for um Luke

Armstrong I’d bring Luke Armstrong in from the start he play that much money for him back in to be fit he starts alongside Maguire that also gives you the option to switch to 433 if you want you can push melish into Midfield the rest of the team I’d keep as it was um

And then obviously on the bench I think Willam would probably drop out in favor of um Garner dropping to the bench and obviously Armstrong coming in and if Neil comes in I guess you’d yeah you’d have to maybe look at what you do with that in terms of Neil

You have to look at what you do in terms of Ghan coming in which I imagine he’d probably be on the bench as well so good to have options isn’t it finally it’s been a while so he’s nice few options on the bench and we still got JJ

To come back as well completely forget about that yeah exactly but yeah I I probably agree with that uh I’d like to see I I I think that along alongside Armstrong I think Maguire would look a different player um yeah and for me Garner has been good with his goals this season but

Purely off memory and with no stats to back me up on this because I’m a professional and do zero research search but I think that Joe Garner most of his goals have come in the second half this season yeah so bring him on in the second half and let him have fresh legs

Because that seems to be when he comes alive so let him have fresh legs in that second half coming on Off the Bench and causing Havoc because it can cause plenty of Havoc when he’s knacked as well so I’d love to see him with fresh legs causing Havoc yeah potentially

Maybe I would drop Wheeling out for um I see Armstrong but Armstrong will coming to the starting 11 and M out for Gan possibly for the extra Defender when you’re playing down um some of that exitus so plenty of options you know like I said it’s it’s nice to have have

That uh that concern rather than concern of filling the bench itself which has been the problem for a while um just a little shot see with the players who still out on Loan Max Kilby’s loans up so it’ll be interesting to see whether that gets extended to the end of the

Season or maybe gets recalled maybe to send him out to somewhere else possibly for the for the rest of the campaign um K nant is till the end of the season so he’s still fine Jaden Harris is loan will run out in the next few weeks I think scored a goal though

For Easter didn’t he the other day nice little finish from a corner actually so really nice to see uh Jayden getting on the score sheet although he he did a controversial retweet after the wigin game didn’t he I think he’s just retweeting one of his mates there I

Think footballers do not look into it anywhere near as much as people think sometimes I think I think it’s one of those ones were very much in danger of like the Gibson thing reading a lot more into it than is actually the case so I’m hoping that anyway the very least um

Prediction time Mike um I I’ve done this wrong on the thing I’ve just spotted this I apologize I filled it in wrong so the last game someone got a full you got a point in the game against uh was it against Fleetwood is it you got a point the

Other day yeah I got I predicted moxon to score so you got MOX to score in the game against uh Port Vale um Dan got a full house didn’t he yeah so what you get right well you get one point yeah you get one point for each goal scorer two points for a

Correct score and you get three bonus points if you get a full house so Dan got well two points for the correct score he got another two points for the two correct goal scorers and then he got the three bonus points so we got seven points which uh puts him clear in the

Lead but it goes to show how many points you can get if you get a full house so it could EAS change this weekend I just got to say about that like um I really hope he put some money on it CU he could have won a bit of

Money on that could if he if he’d gone for 2-1 and uh Gibson and melish to score so I’m guess because I I always forget it I keep think I should do it every time just in case but uh but yeah the fair player Dan he got absolutely

Bang on if I put money on all of my predictions this season I’d have lost a hell of a lot of money so oh you you be in a severe amount of death wouldn’t you speaking of which let’s get yours out the way

Uh I’m going to go for a 3-1 win and I’m going to say Luke Armstrong will get a brace and Sam lavel will score the other okay uh I’m gonna go for I mean gabri is gon to keep it clean sheet let let’s let’s be more positive I’m gonna 3-0 and

I’m gonna Luke Armstrong will score on his debut um I think uh sha Maguire is going to get a goal because like he said I think he’ll benefit from having uh Armstrong up there with him and um oh MOX will get the other goal as well so

There you go I’m going to go Armstrong Maguire and MOX in in a three-nil win right let’s have Dan’s prediction for this one new uh new signings and new positive outlook for the blues hopefully I want to go for a good battle uh 2-1 win and I think we’ll probably all go

With Luke Armstrong to and I’ll go for or MOX for the other one for God’s sake like he’s covered he’s covered me off there it’s just typical that isn’t it I’ve got to hope for the fre nil and get the Full House now haven’t I um right

There you go so that’s the predictions right let’s wrap things up for this episode let’s do the xfiles bit of a bumper one because we didn’t do one uh in the last festive preview one um so we’re going to start with the pre- Christmas games and uh we’re going to go

To the land down under to start and Zack kth uh he was on the score sheet for United in a 3-1 loss against Newcastle Jets um C Mo here he’s really finding a bit of form since he’s got back to Fitness which is really nice to see he

Scored for C City in a three- nil win at Sunland Paddy Madden he netted from the penalty spot in a big win for stocko County a 2-1 victory over Nots County in the pre-Christmas game a stockpot running away aren’t they I think pretty confident that they will be in League

One next season the way it’s going um yeah I hope so and not can’t have lost their manager haven’t bad looks of things it looks like he’s off to Swansea City so they’ve got to find a replacement for him now um Andy Cook’s finding a little bit form again he got

Two goals for Bradford City in their 3-1 win at Doncaster Rovers uh this is a man I’m going to mention quite a bit now because he he’s had a very good Christmas to say the least olao alola he scored twice for Bromley in their two- two draw with alram and finally sha this

Is one Dan actually missed and I spotted it while I was looking through the things Shawn McGinty was sent off at air United in their 4-4 draw Reef Rovers just before Christmas do you reckon uh he’s he had a some big plans for Christmas day sha McGinty possibly

Picking up that red card in a game like that tactical standard off I think yeah very clever lad very clever lad uh onto boxing day I said I was going to mention him a couple of times ala alola he scored for Bromley in their

321 3-2 win at EPS United h mark Beck he was on the score sheet for Sol Mes in their two-nil win over Chesterfield big win for them that isn’t it really because um Chesterfield right up at the top of the National League uh Manny manala he was on the score sheet for

Marine in their 1-1 draw with Warrington rylands onto uh the games after Boxing Day H olaa alola once again scored another goal this time in from Le’s 5-1 win over EPS United you forget the fact that they switched the fixures don’t they every Christmas in the National

League which I quite like I think they should do in the football league that that be much better much fairer as well actually um and then Tavia he scored for Rangers in their 2-1 defeat to Celtic in the old firm Derby Gavin Riley scored for queen

Of South in their 2-1 win over Anan athletic in the borders Derby uh Mark Beck once scored once again it’s a bit of a double there isn’t it he scored for Sol hm in their fre2 defeat the Chesterfield and finally Brad young scored a brace for the new Saints in

Their 4-nil win at Connor’s key Nomads I love that night team name it’s one of my favorite team names like Connie uh onto the other news there’s a few little bits here uh start with a little bit sad news this isn’t it um Mark United of the Northern premier

League same level as workington I believe um they’ve announced that they were they were having a few Financial issues weren’t they I think they sort of there’s a suggestion that they may be sort of over overreached shall we say in recent seasons and it’s reached sort of

A boiling point and they’ve managed to get enough money to save the club unfortunately not to keep them running for this season in the Northern premier league so they’ve resigned from the league and’ll depending on what they want to do next season they’re going to

Work out what league they go into but um good news for them but sadly Jason Kennedy plays for them so uh he’s now without a club so it be interesting to see where he ends up I wonder if maybe I wonder if um Danny grer might just give

Him a little ring you know get him over to workington over the other side of the a66 um and play a few games for him possibly there or I I do wonder if it might be the end of his career though which would be really sad really if

That’s the way it ends but you know hopefully hopefully get something there’s a there’s something you missed out with noreast coaching stuff um um Anthony Sween is now the assistant at harle oh yes he is it’s a caretaker thing alongside um Lenny Lawrence isn’t it Lenny how old is Lenny Lawrence I’m G

Have to look that up he’s been announced as the caretaker of harly pill and and he’s been around for ages um how old is he 76 years old wow that’s that’s cly getting the there isn’t it but fair play um yeah so as you mentioned Anthony Sweeney is one of the caretakers at

Harley po United after John as’s departure there in danger going out the national league North aren’t they Harley pill real real mad um I mean it’s it’s another moment that makes you think that if Simo hadn’t come back we would we’d be in that situation if if not situation so

Potentially it’s terrifying is to think about um gin Jones he’s been called up to the Australia squad for the Asia cup I think it’s his first caller for them as well isn’t it so that’s fantastic stuff for him he’s had a really tough couple of years hasn’t he with what

Happened with his M and stuff so really really nice to see that uh Ethan Walker he’s joined Alm athletic on loan from Blackberry and Rovers Courtney me and Walter has turned up at nanwich toown I think he was at bookon last I think if I remember rightly so H he’s just making

His way around the sort of chesher non- League circuit Now isn’t he I think it’s fair to say he’s a big lad these days isn’t he he’s a he’s one of those ones if you’re a non- league if you’re a non- league Striker you wouldn’t want to come

Up against him would you look and think I’m I’m not Sho you know if you’ve got a bit of pace You’ be delighted because you think I can get away from him if you haven’t you think I’m I’m not going to be able to shake him off all day he’s

He’s a big big lad uh and finally just one that broke ear today when he when he played through US MPP Walter like I he was carrying a bit of Timber then and I off thought well if I’d just got out of prison I’d be going

A bit mad on the pizzas the kebabs the things that hav been able to but he’s still going for it so fair play you back him all the way good luck H finally a little bit of breaking news emerged early today Adam Murray has left his role as assistant manager at cheltam

Town and he’s taken up the manager job at eastborn bah in the National League South um be fair play to me clearly wants to be a manager himself doesn’t he but he’s chopping his career path recently I I’m gonna have to load this up now it’s mental isn’t it he’s just

Chopped from Club to Club to Club up and down like a yo-yo wasn’t it I’m just looking at it here so he was manager at Manfield town for two years then he went to Boston United for a year he was barnesley caretaker a couple of times an

Assistant manager there as well I think he then went to Bashas to be assistant manager there then he was in charge of AFC fil recently uh he left that role um he became the assistant manager at cheltam and now he’s the manager East borwn B we should say as well Chris

Beach has been appointing fulltime as well as the manager of uh AFC files which is no massive surprise really so so there you go um that’s it there Mike I think that’s pretty much the today’s episode wrapped up um I think the new systems work well I’m going have to

Listen back to it now because it’s been a little bit patchy on my end but I think it records locally so I’m fingers crossed this has work because we basically we had a few issues with our previous Studio didn’t we so we thought we’ll try something different I’m using

A trial on this one at the moment so if it’s any good I’ll actually pay for it and we’ll use it fulltime as as the thing but uh but yeah so upcoming episodes obviously if you mentioned we’re going to be doing a review of obviously the exitor game and a preview

Of the Oxford game which we’re both going to um then will be the interview episode with Tom ptic II as well coming up which I’m really looking forward to we’re hoping to sort one one out with Tom senior as well at some point in the near future but obviously he’s a busy

Man at the moment you know there sorting a few things out so there’s no massive Rush with that one and I think because me and Dan are gonna have to test out the system to if it works for him we’re hoping as well to get a little uh mini

One of the bite-sized bugle ones done on Monday possibly so you might get a little bit of something extra as well at some point soon but um yeah I think that’s it nothing else to cover Mike I think today no I think we’ve covered all all

Bases now into the new year where we can uh have a bit more of a consistent kind of recording schedule because it’s been AIT all over the place hasn’t it it has as well and I should say anyone asking Dan’s been moving house and that’s the

Reason why we haven’t been able to get him on too much recently he’s been quite busy with that and the trust AGM stuff as well took a bit of time so hoping Dan will be back on a bit more regularly in the near future as well so we’ve got

Adam as well helping us out which he’s been brilliant you know and he’s he’s practically you know one what part of the family now pretty much isn’t he’s on on every other week almost so I’m sure Adam will probably be back on next week

As well so uh all i’ got left to say is thanks everyone for listening and most importantly of all off the blues oh the blues all are united for one you’re looking good and we’re with you all the way oh you hear us singing every time you play are the Are so for those who are still listening now now that the outro is done here’s the story so basically I got home tonight uh opened up the back door of the kitchen to let my cat I got two cats Monty and Minnie H Minnie was already in

I was just basically waiting for Monty to come in went into the Hall to hang up my coat came back into the kitchen and Monty had left uh to quote the UB 40 song a rat in me kitchen he literally brought in a dead rat and dropped it in

The middle of the kitchen and just stared at me as to say well what are you going to do with this and the answer to that was was to swear very loudly him Clos the inside kitchen door and basically ignore him until he meowed a lot and took it back out

No one needed to know that story but rean likes us to get a little bit at the end for everyone to listen to doesn’t he Mike so there you go anyone who wanted to know when there’s a rat in your kitchen what are you going to do Lee has

Just explained what he did in that situation you know it’s not one siiz fits all you know different people different cats different rats you might do different things but you know that’s just how how lead did it so there just just ignore the little and wait for him

To take it back out again that’s the answer there you go we back soon thank you for listening once again

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